EPTXXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+) - Page 20
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On March 17 2015 06:28 Koshi wrote: And do not show me a single thought he had. Show me how he evolves the rayn scumread into the night. Into the marv + somebody read before deadline. Into Onegu for no reason. Into prplhz for no reason. Into rayn for no reason. Into who is he atm on? Now show me the thoughtprocess of Palmar solving the game between all these points. The PoE. The reasoning. Something? Sure, I will! On March 17 2015 06:28 Koshi wrote: Into the marv + somebody read before deadline. Yes. Marv is easily good enough as town not to get lynched even if I'm the nightkill which I didn't really expect. I had, and still have, too much reservations about him. All the things he says he only does as town are essentially correct, but he also has numerous red flags (some of which I listed in that post aimed at him). Like if I die during the night I'm more worried that scumMarv never gets lynched, than if townMarv ever gets lynched. On March 17 2015 06:28 Koshi wrote: Into Onegu for no reason. At a time when a lot of people were showing interest in voting me he decided to pile on, having almost not mentioned me before. I think it was only last night (might have been yesterday too) when he was asking people convince him on me and he has repeatedly said he cannot read me. Thus he has no active reason to think I'm mafia, and as such he shouldn't be voting me, yet he was/is? Like contentwise, he is currently at the top of my lynchlist. He has a short filter, he wants to lynch me with rayn calling me town and marv being unsure about my alignment when he admits he cannot read me. This means he's fine with a crapshoot lynch. On the other hand it's just too easy, he fits all the boxes, he has the shortest filter in the game, he hasn't done much and I can't remember many reads that had much insight or analysis attached to them. Maybe whoever (rayn?) said that the problem is that we are overthinking and the simplest solution is the right one is right? I don't have to be sure right now so I'm just withholding judgement. I want to re-read his filter if I'm going ot actually go for him.[/QUOTE] On March 17 2015 06:28 Koshi wrote: Into prplhz for no reason. So I started reading people's filter. prplhz did something I generally associate with mafia, which is to start randomly defending people very early in the game. Like it almost makes me feel better about it that he was actually defending mafia. When you and I were singling out JAT as a target he was defending him. I just feel that as town it's not very productive to go much on the defensive this early. I will admit that prplhz going into other games to use meta against JAT later does look townie, and his interaction with me (see, there's a reason to the madness) today felt kind of okay. I genuinely believe that he was annoyed/angry at me in our interactions today, and I feel like it was for the correct reasons. This makes him more likely to be town. On March 17 2015 06:28 Koshi wrote: Into rayn for no reason. I just voted rayn to poke the bear. I feel like rayn has been doing things today and I'm a massive sucker for people that call town. When I last left the thread I was reading through rayn's filter and I was trying to figure out the timeline of his JAT read, I recall there being a gap in his posting (a night or something) and at first I thought it was scummy (how his treatment of jat changed from before the night to after) but I think I read some more that convinced me otherwise. This is what I'm doing now. Sooo I don't think there were any more steps to what I've been doing today. I have some (not much) time tonight and then I should be active again tomorrow. @Eden, I saw somewhere from you a quote that mentioned you thought marv was treating JAT with something gloves? (what is the expression?) Do you feel this was a valid assessment of marv's day 1 regarding JAT? | ||
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On March 17 2015 06:37 Koshi wrote: I don't understand what Palmar is saying to me or what it is accomplishing. Something about him saying JAT was mafia in a spoiler and then not voting him or trying to get him lynched AT ALL. And then something about another game. If somebody can point out what Palmar is trying to tell me let me know. I can't talk to this guy when he is rambling about nothing. I am pointing out that: a) yes you got mafia lynched day 1. This doesn't make you the boss of life. It would suck if you threw the game by being stubborn after that. b) people ALWAYS try to lynch me around days 2-4, and very often they successfully do so. I don't invest the time or energy I used to back in the day in mafia so I'm a relatively easy target. I however very consistently respond the same way to pressure when I'm town and it's glaringly obvious to anyone who actually bothers reading. I know from experience (I've been through this multiple times) that most likely this is an exercise in futility, but hopefully, one day, there will be a town/town leader who is able to actually recognize the situation for what it is. | ||
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On March 17 2015 06:53 Koshi wrote: Just read palmar is his filter from this post (page 13) till now and tell me he is legit looking for mafia. Or has any hard read on anybody, like a townie who actually figures a game out. Because Palmar got a lot of posts since then, and a lot are trying to figure the game out, but is he really? You have to know that Palmar stopped trolling on page 13. So this is game face Palmar: 1) This list. 2) Case on rayn. 2) into ritoky is a fine lynch. + vote 3) Into rayn is a fine lynch + vote. (But 0 reasons why ritoky is a bad lynch) 4) Into marv + somebody is mafia. (Where is rayn?) 5) marv case 6) Onegu vote 7) prplhz is mafia if marv is mafia. 8) marv is town into prplhz vote 9) Into marv, Eden, rayn and Onegu are mafia. (yes, prplhz is town now) 10) vote for rayn 11) A lot of nothing tbh Ok. Now show me how this is town Palmar? Or show me this is a townie figuring out the game? Sure, townies jump around in early gme, without much to go on. But Palmar goes 180 all the time D3? Show me where he does this as town. It wasn't that newbie he replaced in recently. I don't any other games atm. But maybe marv can help? Or anybody? It's important you show me where he does it as town, and not that he doesn't do it as mafia. Because this behavior (aka having no real reads D3) is in nature mafia. Imperial mafia, it's only 500 pages! you'll enjoy it. I flipped on a ton of people GB scum -> town, marv town -> scum, damdy scum -> town, sl town -> scum -> town | ||
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On March 17 2015 06:58 Koshi wrote: ##vote: Onegu fml Well it's an improvement but not exactly what I was hoping for. Can we discuss marv, are we sure he is not mafia? | ||
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I, more than anyone else, need a mafia lynch today. | ||
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On March 17 2015 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: What you just said Palmar does not make any sense. which part? | ||
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Yes, he didn't really use much meta reasons to confirm him, although marv did focus on "the wrong" aspects of what I was pointing out. He talked specifically about prplhz going out of his way to show that JAT doesn't throw around townreads when he's town. I think there was at least one other reason in there but I can't recall without going checking. | ||
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On the other hand, the fact that he: 1. promised read on rayn 2. delivered read on rayn is actually really scummy, because he framed his play and then played exactly to fit that frame. Like it's not an organic read at all, it's manufactured. | ||
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On March 17 2015 07:11 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote prplhz Eden is right about his scumread. Doesn't appear to have a clue. Talk during the night is really off. Scum rb + cop? Dafuq? Where does he got that? rayn agrees with you too. read his interaction with me today and tell me what you think, it's not too long. | ||
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On March 17 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: the part where you say you need a mafia lynch today. you are not really trying tbh, at least up to this point. wait how am I not trying? | ||
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On March 17 2015 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: like yeah, you are playing, but you are not really trying to lynch mafia so fucking hard you point out you "should be". Because the first step of lynching mafia, is figuring out who the mafia is  | ||
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On March 17 2015 07:16 Koshi wrote: Reading this prplhz filter I got so much issues with marv pointing out the 2 things prplhz did that was maybe town. marv his read on prplhz clouds my vision so hard. During the entire game. If I think prplhz I think marv. I don't have it with any other player. suspicious stuff. There's a reason I've been questioning this throughout the game. Like, hell, I thought they were masons on n1 because that was the only way I could fit those strong mutual reads of each other. But I don't know. | ||
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