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On March 16 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +whereas you're sort of okay with just doing nothing and voting whatever the lowest hanging fruit is at the time. Literally totally untrue, I voted you and moved to rayn (on my own, with no expectation of being followed) and haven't moved since.
That's exactly my point. Why do you not want people to follow you? I remember you saying at some point something like "I will just stand by and do nothing while palmar gets lynched", which is so uncharacteristic.
Let's assume you're town. If we mislynch today, someone that isn't me or you, mafia is going to shoot one of us, and the other will be lynched with fire. It is super important to either get today right, and to figure out mine, yours, and preferably rayn's alignment. If I die tonight and flip town, town will be all over you. we HAVE to get this right.
What is your role marv?
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On March 16 2015 22:13 prplhz wrote:
palmar if you attack me again in this game i'm going to vote you and not unvote
I don't care. If I think there is a reason to attack you, I will.
I now need you to help me figure the game out.
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This game would be so much easier if town got one mulligan from the scumpile (which I guess includes me). If there was a cop check or a good claim from me/onegu/marv/rayn/eden that would instantly help the game so much.
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I am hard claiming VT btw (as in, lynch me if I backtrack).
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On March 16 2015 22:20 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 22:16 Palmar wrote:On March 16 2015 22:08 marvellosity wrote:whereas you're sort of okay with just doing nothing and voting whatever the lowest hanging fruit is at the time. Literally totally untrue, I voted you and moved to rayn (on my own, with no expectation of being followed) and haven't moved since. That's exactly my point. Why do you not want people to follow you? I remember you saying at some point something like "I will just stand by and do nothing while palmar gets lynched", which is so uncharacteristic. Let's assume you're town. If we mislynch today, someone that isn't me or you, mafia is going to shoot one of us, and the other will be lynched with fire. It is super important to either get today right, and to figure out mine, yours, and preferably rayn's alignment. If I die tonight and flip town, town will be all over you. we HAVE to get this right. What is your role marv? that's not exactly your point. Your exact point was "voting whatever the lowest hanging fruit is at the time". That was your exact point. And it's bullshit. As for the rest, I refer you to my posts last night. They are in the last few pages of my filter, you were there at the time, it's not too challenging to find.
Isn't that what the idiom means? I was a simple easy to reach lynch, then I demonstrated myself to be a bit more complex so you moved on. I'm not saying it's scummy to do so, it's just so easy.
On March 16 2015 22:20 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +I remember you saying at some point something like "I will just stand by and do nothing while palmar gets lynched", which is so uncharacteristic. Uncharacteristic of what, exactly? Can you think of anything i've ever even remotely said like that as mafia? I'll tell you, the answer is no.
Again, I'm not calling you mafia, can you stop jumping to conclusions. I said it was uncharacteristic, which means it doesn't fit your character, neither as mafia nor as town. I have no idea what it means, but it's very much not town marv either.
Maybe you're mad at something, I don't know. Maybe this is how you display that you're frustrated with the way the game is going. I don't care. You're not being productive in a day I need you to be productive.
On March 16 2015 22:20 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +If we mislynch today, someone that isn't me or you, mafia is going to shoot one of us, and the other will be lynched with fire That's just a weird thing to say. If we mislynch today, there is approx 0% chance I get shot.
I would shoot you if we mislynch today (and I would probably get lynched the day after!  ) So yes, you would get shot, especially if I'm mafia.
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You are like me marv, you want to win. When the game is on the line you abandon whatever facade you've put up throughout the game and go for it. I do this every time, sadly it rarely works.
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oh I didn't mean "whoever you think people will agree with you on". I just meant that your reasoning seems to be less "I have decided I want this fruit because this fruit is exactly what I want and I'm going to get it" and more "eh that fruit is out of reach now, so I'll grab this one here that's closer".
I'm basically saying that you're voting by PoE. you have a list and vote whoever happens to fall to the bottom, without actively deciding who should be at the bottom.
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On March 16 2015 22:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2015 22:27 Palmar wrote:
You are like me marv, you want to win. When the game is on the line you abandon whatever facade you've put up throughout the game and go for it. I do this every time, sadly it rarely works. You know I afked Day 2 on Horn when the lynch was on me, and literally the only reason I got HF lynched in the end was because my chess match finished early and I could post for an hour? I'd given up on the day for all intents and purposes.
I didn't. Wasn't I dead or something?
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On March 16 2015 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am back, hopefully not with a spinal disc herniation but that remains to be seen in a couple of days. What i am going to do now is to go through everyone and everything since i am on a sick leave from work for at least two days. I am also going to distract dumb shit like "VT claim" or "this much posts" towntells because obviously some of those tells are not true. I am not mafia and there are two people who are being called town for something that's not townie (like everyone is being called town for some tells and i can't trust all of them, so i am just going to ignore all of it).I also found Sentinel's music which has been proved to be good for scumhunting. I recommend it. 
I love this approach, even if you turn out to be mafia you should be commended for this.
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What's the list btw?
Palmar doesn't troll as mafia
Marv had 30 page filter in first cycle or something
prplhz had 30 posts in x hours
rayn doesn't bus as mafia
onegu claimed VT
Damdy ragequit
Did eden and koshi have one too?
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Like just to make you feel uncomfortable about it, I really want to kill onegu too. The problem here is that I feel like that would be conceding to the "simple" solution, which I guess isn't a bad thing. It just feels wrong to do it.
And even then, who is his partner? FF? Eden?
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I've only skimmed rayn's case, but he seems to share at least some of my thoughts regarding prplhz, although prplhz did sound okay today.
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I'll read it later tonight, I gotta run.
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On March 17 2015 06:09 Koshi wrote:
I agree that the rsoultin kill was really odd in a world rayn claimed doc and got mafia lynched. Koshi got mafia lynched. marv probably wouldn't get docsaved cuz rayn and Koshi killed mafia. And then there is Palmar.
Really. Kill Palmar.
Onegu? Why?
Pull your head out of your ass.
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Like even if you are absolutely convinced I am mafia Koshi it's terrible play to not engage just in the off chance that I happen to be town, which of course I am.
You're awful.
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On March 17 2015 06:25 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 06:22 Palmar wrote:
Like even if you are absolutely convinced I am mafia Koshi it's terrible play to not engage just in the off chance that I happen to be town, which of course I am.
You're awful. Stop the insulting then you retard.
Well I did ask you quite politely to actually do shit today.
You have no good reason to think I'm mafia, you've just randomly decided it based on butterflies and rainbows. Well butterflies and rainbows are townie things.
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On March 17 2015 06:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 06:24 Koshi wrote:
Ok I read Palmar his latest 4 pages.
Show me anywhere he is figuring out the game.
Anything. Special. And do not show me a single thought he had. Show me how he evolves the rayn scumread into the night. Into the marv + somebody read before deadline. Into Onegu for no reason. Into prplhz for no reason. Into rayn for no reason. Into who is he atm on? Now show me the thoughtprocess of Palmar solving the game between all these points. The PoE. The reasoning. Something?
There is plenty left in the day and I'm not quite sure. But I have, yes, been trying to figure out the game. If you don't believe me go back and read the fucking million times this exact situation has unfolded before.
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On March 17 2015 06:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 06:30 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2015 06:25 Koshi wrote:On March 17 2015 06:22 Palmar wrote:
Like even if you are absolutely convinced I am mafia Koshi it's terrible play to not engage just in the off chance that I happen to be town, which of course I am.
You're awful. Stop the insulting then you retard. Well I did ask you quite politely to actually do shit today. You have no good reason to think I'm mafia, you've just randomly decided it based on butterflies and rainbows. Well butterflies and rainbows are townie things. NEWSFLASH: Koshi did things D1. Palmar did nothing. Palmar promised to do things D3. Palmar does nothing. Palmar asks Koshi to do things politely.
Don't pat yourself too much on the back. I didn't even know you were behind the JAT push when I voted him, I already knew he was mafia and had said so several times.
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On March 17 2015 06:33 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2015 06:33 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2015 06:31 Koshi wrote:On March 17 2015 06:30 Palmar wrote:On March 17 2015 06:25 Koshi wrote:On March 17 2015 06:22 Palmar wrote:
Like even if you are absolutely convinced I am mafia Koshi it's terrible play to not engage just in the off chance that I happen to be town, which of course I am.
You're awful. Stop the insulting then you retard. Well I did ask you quite politely to actually do shit today. You have no good reason to think I'm mafia, you've just randomly decided it based on butterflies and rainbows. Well butterflies and rainbows are townie things. NEWSFLASH: Koshi did things D1. Palmar did nothing. Palmar promised to do things D3. Palmar does nothing. Palmar asks Koshi to do things politely. Don't pat yourself too much on the back. I didn't even know you were behind the JAT push when I voted him, I already knew he was mafia and had said so several times. Was this when you asked somebody you knew wasn't going to vote JAT and sheeped him OFF JAT?
I randomly sheeped people day 1. Go read my sex post. It's amazing.
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On January 09 2015 19:30 Palmar wrote:##vote ritoky
Here's some preparation material: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?user=Palmarhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/466211-tl-mafia-lxviii-fanfic-crossover-edition?user=Palmarhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?user=PalmarAbove are links to my filters in three games in 2014 where I got lynched as town because of fear/lynch inertia. If you want comparison, here are the last two games I got lynched as mafia. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/446774-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-ii?user=Palmarhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/429897-thug-life-mini-mafia?user=PalmarThere's nothing to do today so anyone who actually thinks they're going to lynch me needs to read this (assuming they're town, of course). The parts I specifically want you to pay attention to is how I act when I get under pressure of being lynched. This is vitally important because the easiest way to determine my alignment is to try to lynch me. Assuming I am close to a computer enough to actually post to defend myself, I always will defend myself, because I don't like getting lynched as town. Reading up on the meta is a good first step in not mislynching me. I am not going to go all out today because it requires effort and I'd rather have energy when it actually matters. The way I see this game we now have ritoky as confirmed mafia, damdred as likely second one, and pending further reading maybe vivax too. And for the love of god, listen to marv. If he is mafia he will say I'm town because that's how it works, but more importantly, if he is town, he will get my alignment right. It is very, very likely that he already highly suspect I'm town, and it will only get confirmed when people try to lynch me. Also, just to be clear, I'm sort of looking forward to the big day. It's always exciting to see how and why people push me. I , for example, have no idea why sl thinks I'm mafia.
Here, and add imperial mafia itself to the mix, oh and also that game where I mislynched toad.
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