EPTXXX Mini Mafia: A Night of Debauchery (18+) - Page 17
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On March 16 2015 19:51 Koshi wrote: I do not want to engage. I just want to point out that you said you would do your best today and now I see some dumb lazy vote on Onegu that is worth next to nothing and then some vote on prplhz who you call town. Yes, and then I moved my vote to prplhz, I might vote everyone in the game before the day is over. I promised game-face, this is how I game-face. I cannot be sure of anything yet, I'm still reading, evaluating. I just do whatever I feel like at any point, you can disagree with it, question it or ignore it as you like. If I throw votes around and make half-hearted posts it gives other players the opportunity to engage with me AS I AM WORKING. If I just read everything and came with a conclusion (which is totally what I'd do as mafia, to avoid having to interact with other people), we'd miss a ton of opportunity for people to weigh in. The whole point is that doing it this way gives people the opportunity to actually do things with it. On March 16 2015 19:51 Koshi wrote: And then when asked about it you post 2 comments that show that prplhz had a bad read on JAT. Problem being, why do I need to ask you, why are they not presented while voting for prplhz? And let's say Damdred was mafia and we lynched him D2. You could do the exact same thing for me. Why would it make me mafia except for me being wrong? Because I'm doing multiple things at once. Also it's just kind of a thing I do, if you don't believe me you can just go check but it's probably easier to just believe that I do this all the time. On March 16 2015 19:51 Koshi wrote: Why was it too early for prplhz to defend JAT? Why was it not town prplhz being interested about the lynch? Isn't it a townie thing to be around after you say you want to leave? Hmm? Because in general, and this is a general assumption, townies aren't very likely to go out of their way to defend someone early in the game from flimsy accusations. Of course there are exceptions, it's not a rule. And especially it's uncommon to defend someone who is essentially a null read (as opposed to town read). And it also feels like prplhz missed an opportunity there to go after either you or me (he did kinda maybe call me mafia) for our "bad" scumreads on JAT. | ||
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On March 16 2015 19:58 prplhz wrote: i'm kind of around if anybody wants anything from me palmar's push is ridiculous (again) but i agree with his trolling point on himself being town Who is mafia then prplhz? | ||
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On March 16 2015 19:53 marvellosity wrote: I'm going to take these one at a time as I consider them. Thanks for making the links. First off, obviously the meta is completely awful. I'm not gonna break it down too much, but townJAT not townreading mafiaMarv when I'm in the midst of calling marv scum isn't very telling. Like it's completely unreasonable to expect JAT to have thrown out a townread on marv right there. HOWEVER, the validity of the meta isn't the main point here, because all that matters is whether prplhz actually believes the meta. It's completely irrelevant if it's good or not.I'm not convinced he does, because it's such a start contrast yet he never votes or pushes it. Like if not to try to lynch JAT, what exactly is the purpose of this? Still not certain, but I actually don't think this particular point does very much to alleviate concerns regarding prplhz. | ||
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Did we ever do the math? I think replacement = scum is super, super common. | ||
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On March 16 2015 20:26 marvellosity wrote: can you not engage with the stuff on prplhz before you move on to something else? I am. | ||
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On March 16 2015 20:34 prplhz wrote: i don't even understand this post. especially the bolded part. I'm saying the meta point is invalid. That doesn't make the point invalid. It was correct that it was inherently scummy for JAT to make so many easy townreads, but trying to contrast it with the situation from the other game adds nothing to the value of the point. | ||
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On March 16 2015 20:38 marvellosity wrote: Last I will say on this, but I agree. I also agree that I don't think Damdred would replace out because he was under pressure as mafia. I've often wished I could just replace out when I'm having a tough game as scum, but I never actually considered going ahead and doing it. And I think Damdred is probably morally superior to me already which further adds to this feeling I agree with this. | ||
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On March 16 2015 20:41 prplhz wrote: so you are saying i'm lying about the meta? you are saying he called sciberbia confirmed town and i decided not to tell the thread that, instead i told the thread that he had not done such a thing? No I'm saying the meta is irrelevant. Can you not be a dick about it please. Do you agree that we should treat FF as confirmed town right now? | ||
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Did you not think your meta thing was a good enough reason to vote JAT prplhz? | ||
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On March 16 2015 20:45 prplhz wrote: sorry if i am coming across as a dick, i'm not trying to be a dick. if your argument is "prplhz doesn't believe that the meta he provided proves koshi's point" then i can't really argue against that. yes i did/do? Well that has to be my argument. I don't think you're dumb. I don't think you'd blatantly lie about shit as mafia. If you are mafia and decided to bus you would probably make a pretty good point! like you did! Like I wish I hadn't even mentioned that I think the meta is irrelevant because for some reason yall are now talking about that instead of what is actually the matter. | ||
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Actually the more I talk about this the less I think it makes prplhz mafia. Do explain why you didn't vote for JAT though, given you had evidence to call him mafia. | ||
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On March 16 2015 20:49 marvellosity wrote: The comparison didn't suck though. Whatever, we're done with that part. | ||
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On March 16 2015 20:45 marvellosity wrote: that's not even the same game though. And he is joking. he is not, he says also "of the peopel who have posted you are my top townread" to sciberbia. | ||
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