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On March 13 2015 23:46 marvellosity wrote: I'm saying things about people. Tell me where I am wrong and where I am right. Tell me (and/or Koshi) why we are wrong about Eden. You have been pushing him quite a bit today. We both think there are very good reasons to call him town.
ENGAGE I called eden mafia for immediately realizing I could be fakeclaiming the vig shot because mafia would know that it was fake assuming she was shot.
That's about it.
There was at least one post that bugged me but I don't know.
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By the way, because I'm all in contemplative serious mode right now. Despite all my votes all around, this is my list from towniest to mafia.
LS Koshi marv Eden ritoky Damdred onegu prplhz rayn
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On March 13 2015 23:52 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 23:46 Palmar wrote: Like it bugs me to no end that I can't call you town. I'm going to suspend that notion for today because that's probably the best way to move forward, but it's really annoying because if it wasn't for your read I'd probably be on prplhz' ass right now. Tell me why you think he is mafia. And whether you make anything of what I just wrote on ritoky Because he has posted extremely short posts containing nothing of value. Literally the only thing I remember him doing is defending you.
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Like I know my list is horrible and wrong because I know I shouldn't think this way.
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re: ritoky, you actually reminded me of this marv:
On March 12 2015 20:56 Palmar wrote: Speaking of ritoky I actually read one post by him and I thought he was overplaying the troll thing. It's weak and nothing concrete, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
I like your point, it is somewhat incriminating. And I'd like to add this to it:
On March 11 2015 05:44 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 05:37 rsoultin wrote: my only contention with the ritoky pickle diatribe is I've actually gotten a fair amount out of these pages as opposed to some other games I've been in lol
ritoky...are you admitting that i'm better than you >> what about #sickstrats #noreads #shittier don't you understand? jeez, i gotta splain urrrthing to deez ppl?next thing you know i gonna hafta splain the pickle metaphor.
Like this is not the post I read (I'm trying to find it), but it feels like he is overemphasizing this "yo look bruh im so chill and kool" thing. It's not quite natural.
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On March 13 2015 23:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 23:53 Palmar wrote:On March 13 2015 23:52 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2015 23:46 Palmar wrote: Like it bugs me to no end that I can't call you town. I'm going to suspend that notion for today because that's probably the best way to move forward, but it's really annoying because if it wasn't for your read I'd probably be on prplhz' ass right now. Tell me why you think he is mafia. And whether you make anything of what I just wrote on ritoky Because he has posted extremely short posts containing nothing of value. Literally the only thing I remember him doing is defending you. Cool let's try flesh it out. Yes, everything I wrote on prplhz was metrics. He whines as mafia, he's not here. He's posting far more than he typically posts as mafia, fine. So let's move on to something gameplay related. prplhz pushed the idea quite hard that jat doesn't make early townreads. In fact he even went to Imperial, read jat's filter, and reported back here with the results. (something I don't think he'd bother doing to incriminate his mafiabuddy, but that's by the by?) He then pushed the idea repeatedly in thread. He then let jat get lynched without taking any credit whatsoever, by having his vote somewhere else, even though he'd researched and helped push the idea that jat doesn't make early throwaway townreads, and actively questioned people on it. Thoughts?
Sure, I actually really like the part you said about imperial and i think it's relevant. I'll go have a look at the content at some point, but by the way you're explaining it I'm actually much more comfortable with prplhz than before. If he actually made a specific (and not a generic, sweeping) claim about JAT like that you are indeed correct that he's probably town. I did not read the part that lead to JAT being lynched.
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On March 12 2015 16:43 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 16:40 Eden1892 wrote:On March 12 2015 16:33 ritoky wrote:On March 12 2015 16:24 Eden1892 wrote: ritoky who you wanna lynch 2moro don't have any particularly strong reads in terms of scum. i have some strong town reads. if i was going to get shot unless i provided names? eden and marv; with an outside shot at rsoul more likely than not i am going to sheep palmar, damdred, koochi, and rayn unless i find something particularly compelling. bruh all of those names are wrong ._. says you sucka foo. my reads b sick like listening to tunes on your beats by dre #sickreads #beatsbydre
Here. This is the post that caused me to say "I think he may be overplaying his troll thing".
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On March 14 2015 00:03 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 00:01 Palmar wrote:On March 13 2015 23:56 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2015 23:53 Palmar wrote:On March 13 2015 23:52 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2015 23:46 Palmar wrote: Like it bugs me to no end that I can't call you town. I'm going to suspend that notion for today because that's probably the best way to move forward, but it's really annoying because if it wasn't for your read I'd probably be on prplhz' ass right now. Tell me why you think he is mafia. And whether you make anything of what I just wrote on ritoky Because he has posted extremely short posts containing nothing of value. Literally the only thing I remember him doing is defending you. Cool let's try flesh it out. Yes, everything I wrote on prplhz was metrics. He whines as mafia, he's not here. He's posting far more than he typically posts as mafia, fine. So let's move on to something gameplay related. prplhz pushed the idea quite hard that jat doesn't make early townreads. In fact he even went to Imperial, read jat's filter, and reported back here with the results. (something I don't think he'd bother doing to incriminate his mafiabuddy, but that's by the by?) He then pushed the idea repeatedly in thread. He then let jat get lynched without taking any credit whatsoever, by having his vote somewhere else, even though he'd researched and helped push the idea that jat doesn't make early throwaway townreads, and actively questioned people on it. Thoughts? Sure, I actually really like the part you said about imperial and i think it's relevant. I'll go have a look at the content at some point, but by the way you're explaining it I'm actually much more comfortable with prplhz than before. If he actually made a specific (and not a generic, sweeping) claim about JAT like that you are indeed correct that he's probably town. I did not read the part that lead to JAT being lynched. Further to this. I don't know how important it is. I think it was really obvious that he properly researched it because: it was Damdred who said, lazily, "er yea actually jat made early townreads in Imperial" and prplhz actively challenged him on that assertion.
I'm going to take your word for it because it's easier than double checking it. The way you describe it would indeed make prplhz very much town.
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So, two things I've repeatedly referenced but not explained:
rayn's betrayal
On March 10 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: So everyone who has posted so far is town. Thoughts?
This is rayn in the early game. I looked at this post, double checked the first few posts and thought to myself "hey I actually kinda sorta like that observation". So I responded with this.
On March 10 2015 07:13 Palmar wrote: pretty much yeah. There's an outside chance JAT is mafia, but I'm willing to clear him for the day.
Obviously these are super weak clears, but I really liked the starting point rayn was going to work from. But then he responded with this:
On March 10 2015 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 07:13 Palmar wrote: pretty much yeah. There's an outside chance JAT is mafia, but I'm willing to clear him for the day. what? How do you possible read everyone who's posted so far as town?
And I just got mad. I've wanted to kill rayn ever since. Because he threw out what I thought was a fairly decent observation and it ended up being a dumb shit trap play. Also, to expand even further on this one, here is WHY I thought he may have had the right idea.
On March 10 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote: No sexy qt with Palmar I am disappoint.
I liked Damdred's entrance. It wasn't forced, it was sorta jokey but not in the meek way Damdred enters the thread when he's mafia. It was just a casual joke that I had literally no problems with.
On March 10 2015 07:04 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 07:03 Palmar wrote: Yeah you're not even in my naughty topic. Did you just claim Mafia?
I've already explained why I think LS is mafia because of this and I don't think I'll be wavering from that read any time soon.
On March 10 2015 07:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 07:03 Palmar wrote: Yeah you're not even in my naughty topic. So, who is?
On March 10 2015 07:06 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 07:05 Palmar wrote:On March 10 2015 07:04 LightningStrike wrote:On March 10 2015 07:03 Palmar wrote: Yeah you're not even in my naughty topic. Did you just claim Mafia? Woopsie! You never learn.
JAT is the one I didn't feel particularly good, hence why I mentioned there being a chance he was mafia. But I decided that maybe rayn had some sort of a read on him and I was okay with sheeping that for now.
On March 10 2015 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not a miller.
Which leads me to think rayn himself is town, because he made a very smart observation that I for the most part agreed with.
You can imagine how annoyed I was when he turned around and did the trap thing.
I can't remember what the other thing is now because this took long to write, but I'll remember soon.
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it's easy to miss things you don't read.
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On March 14 2015 00:18 prplhz wrote: but why call me mafia without even superficially investigating when you were just wrong on me the other game I don't really care about being wrong or right that much.
Or well, I am always okay with being wrong.
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##unvote ##vote ritoky
I am very much okay with this lynch.
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@LS I said it in the faith that rayn had some kind of a towntell on JAT.
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which is why I got mad when rayn turned around on me
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On March 14 2015 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 00:22 Palmar wrote: @LS I said it in the faith that rayn had some kind of a towntell on JAT. I have never had any towntells on JAT. Sorry Palmar  I thought you should at least not read me and JAT town at that point. That's why i questioned you. well the read on you was BASED ON the fact that you said what I considered a smart thing about 3 players (myself, LS, Damdy) at the time.
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yeah screw it marv is town.
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We're not lynching rayn unless both a third and a fourth blue role claim.
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Like I kinda want to take an "easy" lynch today like ritoky just to allow the blue shenanigans to go down tomorrow
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On March 14 2015 02:48 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 02:48 Palmar wrote: We're not lynching rayn unless both a third and a fourth blue role claim. dat bluehunting If I had no posts this game except this single bluehunting and lynch steering post. Am I mafia or town and why?
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Koshi is 100% town for demanding this claim out of rayn. He was already but this is such a townie mindset.
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