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On March 12 2015 21:07 Koshi wrote:
Raynbro,
rsoultin only mimicked you. She is not confirmed town for it. If you fight me on rsoultin because that sole fact. I am going to like marv a lot suddenly.
But.you wont cuz.you are totes <3
not true Koshi. She said something that was really clever i hadn't even thought about.
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On March 12 2015 22:51 prplhz wrote:
well rayn did say that koshi's read on jat was interesting
then marv called him scum
then rayn went nuts and did the whole LS/damdred thing
and only after that did he go back on jat
dunno how things were looking at that point but he avoid the whole jat-early-town-reads issue even though he had commented positively on it
This is not true. I wanted JAT to do something and i focus on one thing at a time. Which is bad i agree, but i can't help it sometimes. I nevfer forgot about my read on JAT, i just thought Damdred was more likely to be mafia, and a better target to focus on because JAT doesn't really work well when being called mafia as either alignment -- he is like mini-marv.
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On March 12 2015 07:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 06:21 rsoultin wrote:On March 12 2015 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 06:17 rsoultin wrote:On March 12 2015 06:14 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote:
-sits on jats head-
##vote: justanothertownie
there is your sheep ls puppy! <3 Are you just doing this so that LS feels important? I honestly don't see any other explanation for this. lol sure, jat. I sheep people to make them feel good xP what makes you so overwhelmingly town that you think it's impossible for me to arrive at the conclusion that you're scum on my own? I never said that and you know it but there is 0 reason to change back to me. 0. You just learned that I was right about the thing you attacked me for earlier. I didn't attack you. I prefer an actual discussion to screaming back and forth because then I actually understand what is going on -_- and rayn's point is a good one, actually. so. there's your 0 reason xP there literally is no reason for scum to push rit as town or scum with rayn on the block...unless rayn is scum. so really the only thing that comment does is make rayn look more town -_-
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One thing first. Why are you missing you biggest towntell ever in this game?
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I mean the way you enter the thread when you are behind.
You read the thread and make a stream of posts after you find something important while catching up. It is the easiest way to read you as town ever because you always say smart stuff.
Like when anyone else does that (well DarthPunk and Ange777 are allowed to that aswell) it's just fucking bad because they just ask dumb questions which have been answered already.
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LightningStrike i remember reading you asked me (and Koshi) why marv is mafia or something like that.
I don't think marv is mafia so i can't answer that. Why were you even asking that? I have never called marv mafia in this game.
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On March 13 2015 00:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean the way you enter the thread when you are behind.
You read the thread and make a stream of posts after you find something important while catching up. It is the easiest way to read you as town ever because you always say smart stuff.
Like when anyone else does that (well DarthPunk and Ange777 are allowed to that aswell) it's just fucking bad because they just ask dumb questions which have been answered already. Like when? The only time I was behind was an hour before the lynch when I got home, then there isn't time for a slow catchup. Overnight last night there was 1-2 pages of posts. this is a really stupid question
Oh okay. It makes sense.
Anyways talk to me about Damdred and Eden. Why do you think they are mafia?
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On March 13 2015 00:47 marvellosity wrote:
i don't think eden is mafia.
Damdred because i think everyone is more town than him. that's all.
I thought you said "one of rayn/Eden could be mafia"?
Or is it just PoE thing regarding the "someone who is been heavily townread is probably mafia"?
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On March 13 2015 00:49 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 13 2015 00:47 marvellosity wrote:
i don't think eden is mafia.
Damdred because i think everyone is more town than him. that's all. I thought you said "one of rayn/Eden could be mafia"? Or is it just PoE thing regarding the "someone who is been heavily townread is probably mafia"? the "someone who is heavily townread is probably mafia" is because somehow i do not see 2 mafia in ritoky/onegu/damdred.
I think there is no way ritoky is mafia.
Onegu and Damdred.. Why not?
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But marv, you must have some reasons why Damdred is mafia other than the "i thought he jsut needed the feel to question me" thing?
Can you elaborate more on the feels? Also fuck WaveofShadow.
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On March 13 2015 00:52 Onegu wrote:
Jeezus I'm like 50 pages behind. Sigh I'm reading/skimming the thread...
@Marv who has the real Rayn soul read now? 100% > 95%
Say something smart or use the time to catch up.
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On March 13 2015 00:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But marv, you must have some reasons why Damdred is mafia other than the "i thought he jsut needed the feel to question me" thing?
Can you elaborate more on the feels? Also fuck WaveofShadow. why? why do i need to? why are you asking me this?
Because i am quite lost atm.
I thought JAT, Onegu and ritoky are mafia. There is no fucking way ritoky is mafia here. I have still to check one thing about Onegu but it can wait and i am pretty sure we should lynch him D2.
I am probably going to die during the night. And if i do these dumbasses might even lynch you. So i want to understand you, because our read on Damdred has been.. well.. quite the opposite all game. And i want to solve the game now, for post-game credit. 
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Like i think there is a chance purplehaze is mafia, because Palmar says so.
But Palmar does not look very townie either. I know in general him trolling is not alignment indicative but this game has a pretty impressive playerbase and it looks like he just doesn't give any fucks.
So i don't know. I don't think Damdred is mafia either. When i stopped posting the night before he had a set of posts i found really townie. Now everyone is calling him mafia when i read him town. I have no idea why.
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On March 13 2015 00:59 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 07:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 07:29 prplhz wrote:
why is rso confirmed? On March 12 2015 06:21 rsoultin wrote:On March 12 2015 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 06:17 rsoultin wrote:On March 12 2015 06:14 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 06:12 rsoultin wrote:
-sits on jats head-
##vote: justanothertownie
there is your sheep ls puppy! <3 Are you just doing this so that LS feels important? I honestly don't see any other explanation for this. lol sure, jat. I sheep people to make them feel good xP what makes you so overwhelmingly town that you think it's impossible for me to arrive at the conclusion that you're scum on my own? I never said that and you know it but there is 0 reason to change back to me. 0. You just learned that I was right about the thing you attacked me for earlier. I didn't attack you. I prefer an actual discussion to screaming back and forth because then I actually understand what is going on -_- and rayn's point is a good one, actually. so. there's your 0 reason xP there literally is no reason for scum to push rit as town or scum with rayn on the block...unless rayn is scum. so really the only thing that comment does is make rayn look more town -_- Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 05:13 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 05:01 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 04:58 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2015 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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What's the problem then? The problem is that you claim to POE off of your scumreads because they are so strong. It makes no sense if you don't have good reasons for them. Well i do have good reasons for my scumreads. No, you don't. I am not scum and even if I was then that would not be why. I gave early townreads as town before. Boom. Whole argument demolished. Not THOSE kinda townreads. Never. Also you are not really trying to find mafia even when the guy who you don't think is mafia is getting lynched.... You are not sheeping anything, hell you are not even fucking voting for anyone. I am trying to find mafia and nothing of the other things you say makes me mafia. .. but maybe you were busy or being tunneled by moronic something i don't remember??? So where are your results of "trying to find mafia"? I don't see them. You just gave out an obvious read on ritoky, hell everyone probably just feels the same way. Then you said Onegu is scum for something but you don't really have reasons to make a case on him. You have laid off of Damdred being scum. Idk why is that because you never explain it. I don't really think any of that contributes as "trying to find mafia". Then you are not very good at this thinking thing. If the ritoky read is so obvious then how come almost noone is calling him scum? How come there is no wagon on him? I work with POE from TOWNREADS day1. I always do this as town. Every single game. I have nothing to townread Onegu on so he is mafia by POE. I also did NOT lay off of damdred. Here is the fun part: Yes i have considered this. But if ritoky is town mafia does not need to push him, since i am/was being lynched. Why the fuck would mafia push ritoky when they could lynch me instead? So it is a null-tell, something you should think it is aswell given that you do not read me as mafia. I said she mimicked you. Look at timestamps.
She considered the big picture from her perspective and went more into it, which even contradicted what she said before (readwise -- she had me as mafia).
Why does mafia!rsoultin go in with a post like this when she has scumread me a few hours ago? Just because i made a case on JAT, who she also scumreads? Why does she come to that conclusion and why does she fucking care enough in the first place?
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On March 13 2015 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
like literally the last thing you did last night was grill Damdred and call him mafia.
Now you say the night BEFORE that you read posts and find him townie and you're reading him town?
Nope. Nope Nope Nope, rayn.
*sigh* after i stopped posting, that's what i mean, between first 24h - when i got home from work yesterday.
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Oh yeah. I forgot about it already. I blame tired rayn.
Yes you are right. I in fact do read Damdred scum. He said i did townie things then voted for me.
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On March 13 2015 01:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 08:41 Damdred wrote:
JAT said he was town and he said smart things at points Prplhz Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Rsoultin will kill me when she reads that post haha.
No its not confirmed like Rayn is for instance Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 09:01 Damdred wrote:
Marv seriously just tell us whos scum? It should be really easy from your perspective. Especially since you pointed out the three free townreads that Jat gave? Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 09:05 Damdred wrote:On March 12 2015 07:50 marvellosity wrote:On March 11 2015 01:20 marvellosity wrote:
in rough order of confidence
marvellosity
prplhz
LightningStrike
Palmar
rsoultin
Koshi
Eden
ritoky
Onegu
jat
Damdred
rayn so if i go back to my original early reads like i wish i had in horn rayn goes up some spots koshi goes up spots still left with the ritoky/onegu problem damdy is kinda near the bottom by default, don't know if i like that or not hmm. not helped me very much tbh. So your scum list has to be Onegu, Ritoky and Damdred. What do you think of the reasoning Ritoky is using here to show that he is town? Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 09:12 Damdred wrote:
Meh I have to get my wife from work.
Marv look at ritoky and me and onegu and give thoughts please Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 09:59 Damdred wrote:
My questions aren't attrocious Marv. I have always dome as you have asked me because I respect you as a person and I have calmly asked for your thoughts on what amounts to your top three pie lynch leaders so please at your leisure will you tell me why they are here and which ones are most likely scum Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 11:39 Damdred wrote:
More than likely it would be oneg or Eden to me ls. But most probable oneg Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 22:49 Damdred wrote:
I'm pretty sure after reading everything Marv is town. Even if he was a bit of a dick to me.
Meta wise I don't think that rayn would go that hard against jat when he did when there were other opportunities in the thread, as far as I know rayn isn't a typical busser and never does it d1... Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 23:06 Damdred wrote:
There was ritoky they could of went to, I was somewhat a candidate especially with Eden willing to switch to both. I believe vote was three to three when rayn entered the thread or maybe 5-2 or something like that. Mafia rayn might try to push Lynch onto the person he was tunneling or ritoky who was being bad rather than go after mafia teammate jat.
Ik thinking one mafia inbeteren Eden and rsoultin at this point though Like I do not know how anyone goes from directly calling someone mafia to saying he is town based on these posts and he does not know why people call him mafia. It makes no sense.
I was talking about the night before that night.
I didn't even remember i had talked with Damdred yesterday lol.
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Let's talk about why i scumread Damdred then.
I asked him to elaborate on his scumread on me on D1.
This is what he said:
On March 12 2015 07:24 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 12 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Honestly Rayn, I know that we don't want to retread the same ground but we had a disagreement about the LS post which fueled it a bit so I was ignoring you till I cooled down. But before that you were kind of unremarkable in the thread to me and it wasn't activity just that you were barely doing anything till the LS thing and me thing and I was to stubborn to see it another way meh. What was i supposed to do at that time then? Did you gather great reads at that point in the game (when i was around)? I'll try to answer this again. Before the LS thing the thread was extremely jokey and lax and you were in my estimation the first serious contender. So in retrospect you did the right thing in trying to push someone I still disagree with how you pushed LS at that juncture and with what you did however.At that point in the game I had several reads in the game but no none of them were great reads at the game besides that I was decently solid that marv was town and I had other people I the town pile.
green: before he voted for me
red: after he voted for me
Like that is his reasoning? There were apparently zero reasons for him to have a scumread on me when he voted for me.
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On March 13 2015 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
Like I just don't think a townie completely forgets his read progression on someone and talking to someone. I just don't.
I can't conceive a world where I, no matter how tired I am, go to bed thinking someone is mafia and wake up thinking they are town. For me, that is totally impossible.
Yeah maybe you can't. Try doing physical work 8 hours/day (yesterday 12h) every day after sunday, going to sleep 2am because you want to play mafia, waking up at 5am.
You'd be surprised how you start forgetting stuff at some point...
And i am not a re-reader anyways. I bank on my memory.
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