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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2015 17:35 GMT
#1141
On March 09 2015 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
"hf knows damdred is getting shot despite there being a claim vig and only a mafia hf would know that a claimed vig was telling the truth or not and if he'd get rb'd!" - ve 2015

???

Explain.

I've seen your mom come in here and claim Vig. That means that the RB, if there is one, has a decent target - especially if we're even CLOSE to right about who is mafia.

We've lynched the GF and only the GF which means that there is STILL guaranteed a RB in the game.

If YOU know that Damdred is being shot 100% that means that either

-you are mafia and know that the RB is NOT going to be on the claimed Vig
or
-you are the vig and KNOW that your mom is fakeclaiming

I'm fine with either of those conclusions, but given the info /I/ have, the first one is more likely.

If I'm missing something it's not my fault HF.


If you think I'm the dumbest mafia in the history of mafia, sure, you can believe the first scenario. Hence all logic out of the window.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2015 17:37 GMT
#1142
I didn't antagonise you ve i just told you your conclusion is wrong and you should wait for the guaranteed cop check before you wifom yourself too far (which you are doing and love doing)
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 08 2015 17:38 GMT
#1143
On March 09 2015 02:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 09 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
"hf knows damdred is getting shot despite there being a claim vig and only a mafia hf would know that a claimed vig was telling the truth or not and if he'd get rb'd!" - ve 2015

???

Explain.

I've seen your mom come in here and claim Vig. That means that the RB, if there is one, has a decent target - especially if we're even CLOSE to right about who is mafia.

We've lynched the GF and only the GF which means that there is STILL guaranteed a RB in the game.

If YOU know that Damdred is being shot 100% that means that either

-you are mafia and know that the RB is NOT going to be on the claimed Vig
or
-you are the vig and KNOW that your mom is fakeclaiming

I'm fine with either of those conclusions, but given the info /I/ have, the first one is more likely.

If I'm missing something it's not my fault HF.


If you think I'm the dumbest mafia in the history of mafia, sure, you can believe the first scenario. Hence all logic out of the window.

It's not dumb HF. Especially with you being at the wheel. Doing something mafia don't ever do isn't strictly speaking "dumb mafia play". I'd argue it's actually really good mafia play, and I consider you to be a really good mafia player.

But yeah whatever, insult me while I compliment you. Fuck you Holyflare.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2015 17:40 GMT
#1144
On March 09 2015 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't antagonise you ve i just told you your conclusion is wrong and you should wait for the guaranteed cop check before you wifom yourself too far (which you are doing and love doing)

I don't understand your logic in waiting for the cop check before talking.
I find it bs.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 08 2015 17:40 GMT
#1145
On March 09 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't antagonise you ve i just told you your conclusion is wrong and you should wait for the guaranteed cop check before you wifom yourself too far (which you are doing and love doing)

I don't understand your logic in waiting for the cop check before talking.
I find it bs.

^
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 17:42 GMT
#1146
Well I'm not mafia but I'm probably getting shot anyway.

I'm sorry played badly I smurfed for good reasons meh and the reasons GB is mafia in my eyes isn't that consulted honestly.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 08 2015 17:43 GMT
#1147
On March 09 2015 02:42 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm not mafia but I'm probably getting shot anyway.

I'm sorry played badly I smurfed for good reasons meh and the reasons GB is mafia in my eyes isn't that consulted honestly.

If you're so convinced about Tormented then why did you make a case on me instead of Tormented? You have ~30 games more experience with that guy, and I was around trying to figure out the game yesterday when you made your case.

If you're town, then the answer to this question is very important and I'd like you to answer it as honestly as possible.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2015 17:50 GMT
#1148
Mocsta, VE and Soren are basically never ever mafia. The timing and the way they voted screams town.
I don't believe your mom to be mafia aswell. If there was abus that would be it but i think there is a pretty low chance of it. After all he's been saying smart stuff and everything.
Glowingbear is basically confirmed town for not pushing any mafia agenda.
I still believe yamato is town, while inactive for the later parts of d1 he had some really good and logical trains of thoughts. It highly unlike he has those as sxum.
I don't see Tormented being mafia either. Like everyone i find scummy is in a way or another pushing him... It's fishy.

Like, i think this game is just simple and 2 last mafia are in damd/mm1/hf.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2015 17:50 GMT
#1149
On March 09 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't antagonise you ve i just told you your conclusion is wrong and you should wait for the guaranteed cop check before you wifom yourself too far (which you are doing and love doing)

I don't understand your logic in waiting for the cop check before talking.
I find it bs.


That's a real shame
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 17:55 GMT
#1150
Gameplay doesn't transfer well here I find. His initial postings reminded me of his town game the one you quoted made me think he was town to.

But his lack of presence has changed my mind. Now anyway, he could be mafia.

I thought I saw good amount of inconsistencies in your ply ve which there still are. Meh I thought what I saw was stronger than a lurker lynch
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 08 2015 18:35 GMT
#1151
I think it would be better if vigi shot someone else and cop confirm Damdred is Mafia.

Reason: a shot will instantly give a flip. If the vigi correctly guessed a Mafia, cop can out and say Damdred is Mafia and we win.

In the other hand, if vigi shoots Damdred, cop will have to rely in getting the right target. If he doesn't and Damdred turns out to be VT, he will have to keep his check to himself.

What I'm saying is basically vigi shot is a cop check without a claim.

Does it makes sense or I'm being dumb?
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2015 18:40 GMT
#1152
You end up in a same conclusion anyways if the vigi hits/misses.
The worst thing is if there is doubt on who the vigi shoots and the copp and vigi end up on the same target..
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 18:40 GMT
#1153
Honestly I won't have time to read filters and be super useful on that front but I don't think you should dq soren quite as fast he was really playing the field yesterday.

When I made my ve case he agreed with it was challenged to find information never did. I think his vote would be the bus if there is one I'm not sure if he ever really commented on kel need to check that.

I still think GB looks bad but nobody will listen in that regard, basically boils down to inconsistent reads and GB can feign that confusion around lynch fan fiction mafia. But I can be biased.

In Linux mafia hf did his fake case carp as mafia. And his presence at lynch was worrying. Check him.

Mm is a lurker lynch but 've makes great point on him. Tormented isn't being smart.

Scum has to be in them
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 18:44 GMT
#1154
Honestly probably just super biased on GB and I'm just not seeing it right now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 18:46 GMT
#1155
Gah would GB push so hard off floundering God father kel instead of just bussing him. Obviously kel was probably lynched but still pushed so objectively GB is probably town and I'm just being dumb.

So leaves me in a world with

Soren/torm/mm/Hf
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 08 2015 18:54 GMT
#1156
On March 09 2015 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You end up in a same conclusion anyways if the vigi hits/misses.
The worst thing is if there is doubt on who the vigi shoots and the copp and vigi end up on the same target..


Scenario 1 - vigi shoots randomly and cop checks Damdred:

1.1. Random guy flips Mafia. Damdred returns red. GG.
1.2. Random guy flips Mafia. Damdred returns green. No cop claim = we know Damdred is town without a cop claim, therefore, Mafia is somewhere else and we don't waste our breath on Damdred.
1.3. Random guy flips town. Damdred returns red. I can't foresee if the cop would claim here.
1.4. Random guy flips town. Damdred returns green. I can't foresee if the cop would claim.

Scenario 2 - vigi shoots Damdred and cop checks random guy.

2.1. Damdred flips red. Random returns red. GG
2.2. Damdred flips red. Random returns green. We don't know who the cop checked therefore we don't have any second confirmation
2.3. Damdred flips green. Random returns red. Can't foresee if cop would claim here.
2.4. Damdred flips green. Random returns red. Can't foresee if and cop would claim here.

That's IF vigi shoots tonight. Just have in mind that if you shoot today you have a good chance of killing Mafia AND will be confirmed town day2 by claiming.

Unless town defines who the random guy should be. Then vigi can securely hit Damdred and if the cop gets a green check, he doesn't need to claim day2 and we will know who was green checked.

I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2015 19:06 GMT
#1157
Okay gb that makeds sense.
I propose mm1 shot.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 19:08 GMT
#1158
Just thought dumping honestly right here.

I'm actually pretty sold on soren being mafia here.

Hf I feel is the most likely person who needs to be checked. He's my sleeper mafia pick just doing things to do them like the gb case was to create discussion but IDK or feels a bit off to me. And hf in thread eod was a bit strange to me I would check him as cop.

Mm seemed meh but IDK what to do but policy him not going with ve was weird.

Torm is another policy of hf isn't mafia Torm is
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2015 19:10 GMT
#1159
still not mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2015 19:14 GMT
#1160
Damdres there no fucking chance soren is mafia here.
He just ends up on kelsier with an actual line of thought of considering his reads and re-evaluating them.

There is no way that is a bus. You basically cannot not see it......
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