• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:30
CEST 21:30
KST 04:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 239ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 What is your PC setup in 2026 for SCBW/SC2 ? Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6273 users

Mafia Mini Mafia: a miniature game of mafia - Page 58

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 56 57 58 59 60 75 Next
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2015 17:35 GMT
#1141
On March 09 2015 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
"hf knows damdred is getting shot despite there being a claim vig and only a mafia hf would know that a claimed vig was telling the truth or not and if he'd get rb'd!" - ve 2015

???

Explain.

I've seen your mom come in here and claim Vig. That means that the RB, if there is one, has a decent target - especially if we're even CLOSE to right about who is mafia.

We've lynched the GF and only the GF which means that there is STILL guaranteed a RB in the game.

If YOU know that Damdred is being shot 100% that means that either

-you are mafia and know that the RB is NOT going to be on the claimed Vig
or
-you are the vig and KNOW that your mom is fakeclaiming

I'm fine with either of those conclusions, but given the info /I/ have, the first one is more likely.

If I'm missing something it's not my fault HF.


If you think I'm the dumbest mafia in the history of mafia, sure, you can believe the first scenario. Hence all logic out of the window.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2015 17:37 GMT
#1142
I didn't antagonise you ve i just told you your conclusion is wrong and you should wait for the guaranteed cop check before you wifom yourself too far (which you are doing and love doing)
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 08 2015 17:38 GMT
#1143
On March 09 2015 02:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 09 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
"hf knows damdred is getting shot despite there being a claim vig and only a mafia hf would know that a claimed vig was telling the truth or not and if he'd get rb'd!" - ve 2015

???

Explain.

I've seen your mom come in here and claim Vig. That means that the RB, if there is one, has a decent target - especially if we're even CLOSE to right about who is mafia.

We've lynched the GF and only the GF which means that there is STILL guaranteed a RB in the game.

If YOU know that Damdred is being shot 100% that means that either

-you are mafia and know that the RB is NOT going to be on the claimed Vig
or
-you are the vig and KNOW that your mom is fakeclaiming

I'm fine with either of those conclusions, but given the info /I/ have, the first one is more likely.

If I'm missing something it's not my fault HF.


If you think I'm the dumbest mafia in the history of mafia, sure, you can believe the first scenario. Hence all logic out of the window.

It's not dumb HF. Especially with you being at the wheel. Doing something mafia don't ever do isn't strictly speaking "dumb mafia play". I'd argue it's actually really good mafia play, and I consider you to be a really good mafia player.

But yeah whatever, insult me while I compliment you. Fuck you Holyflare.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2015 17:40 GMT
#1144
On March 09 2015 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't antagonise you ve i just told you your conclusion is wrong and you should wait for the guaranteed cop check before you wifom yourself too far (which you are doing and love doing)

I don't understand your logic in waiting for the cop check before talking.
I find it bs.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 08 2015 17:40 GMT
#1145
On March 09 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't antagonise you ve i just told you your conclusion is wrong and you should wait for the guaranteed cop check before you wifom yourself too far (which you are doing and love doing)

I don't understand your logic in waiting for the cop check before talking.
I find it bs.

^
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 17:42 GMT
#1146
Well I'm not mafia but I'm probably getting shot anyway.

I'm sorry played badly I smurfed for good reasons meh and the reasons GB is mafia in my eyes isn't that consulted honestly.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 08 2015 17:43 GMT
#1147
On March 09 2015 02:42 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm not mafia but I'm probably getting shot anyway.

I'm sorry played badly I smurfed for good reasons meh and the reasons GB is mafia in my eyes isn't that consulted honestly.

If you're so convinced about Tormented then why did you make a case on me instead of Tormented? You have ~30 games more experience with that guy, and I was around trying to figure out the game yesterday when you made your case.

If you're town, then the answer to this question is very important and I'd like you to answer it as honestly as possible.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2015 17:50 GMT
#1148
Mocsta, VE and Soren are basically never ever mafia. The timing and the way they voted screams town.
I don't believe your mom to be mafia aswell. If there was abus that would be it but i think there is a pretty low chance of it. After all he's been saying smart stuff and everything.
Glowingbear is basically confirmed town for not pushing any mafia agenda.
I still believe yamato is town, while inactive for the later parts of d1 he had some really good and logical trains of thoughts. It highly unlike he has those as sxum.
I don't see Tormented being mafia either. Like everyone i find scummy is in a way or another pushing him... It's fishy.

Like, i think this game is just simple and 2 last mafia are in damd/mm1/hf.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2015 17:50 GMT
#1149
On March 09 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
I didn't antagonise you ve i just told you your conclusion is wrong and you should wait for the guaranteed cop check before you wifom yourself too far (which you are doing and love doing)

I don't understand your logic in waiting for the cop check before talking.
I find it bs.


That's a real shame
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 17:55 GMT
#1150
Gameplay doesn't transfer well here I find. His initial postings reminded me of his town game the one you quoted made me think he was town to.

But his lack of presence has changed my mind. Now anyway, he could be mafia.

I thought I saw good amount of inconsistencies in your ply ve which there still are. Meh I thought what I saw was stronger than a lurker lynch
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 08 2015 18:35 GMT
#1151
I think it would be better if vigi shot someone else and cop confirm Damdred is Mafia.

Reason: a shot will instantly give a flip. If the vigi correctly guessed a Mafia, cop can out and say Damdred is Mafia and we win.

In the other hand, if vigi shoots Damdred, cop will have to rely in getting the right target. If he doesn't and Damdred turns out to be VT, he will have to keep his check to himself.

What I'm saying is basically vigi shot is a cop check without a claim.

Does it makes sense or I'm being dumb?
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2015 18:40 GMT
#1152
You end up in a same conclusion anyways if the vigi hits/misses.
The worst thing is if there is doubt on who the vigi shoots and the copp and vigi end up on the same target..
table for two on a tv tray
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 18:40 GMT
#1153
Honestly I won't have time to read filters and be super useful on that front but I don't think you should dq soren quite as fast he was really playing the field yesterday.

When I made my ve case he agreed with it was challenged to find information never did. I think his vote would be the bus if there is one I'm not sure if he ever really commented on kel need to check that.

I still think GB looks bad but nobody will listen in that regard, basically boils down to inconsistent reads and GB can feign that confusion around lynch fan fiction mafia. But I can be biased.

In Linux mafia hf did his fake case carp as mafia. And his presence at lynch was worrying. Check him.

Mm is a lurker lynch but 've makes great point on him. Tormented isn't being smart.

Scum has to be in them
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 18:44 GMT
#1154
Honestly probably just super biased on GB and I'm just not seeing it right now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 18:46 GMT
#1155
Gah would GB push so hard off floundering God father kel instead of just bussing him. Obviously kel was probably lynched but still pushed so objectively GB is probably town and I'm just being dumb.

So leaves me in a world with

Soren/torm/mm/Hf
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 08 2015 18:54 GMT
#1156
On March 09 2015 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You end up in a same conclusion anyways if the vigi hits/misses.
The worst thing is if there is doubt on who the vigi shoots and the copp and vigi end up on the same target..


Scenario 1 - vigi shoots randomly and cop checks Damdred:

1.1. Random guy flips Mafia. Damdred returns red. GG.
1.2. Random guy flips Mafia. Damdred returns green. No cop claim = we know Damdred is town without a cop claim, therefore, Mafia is somewhere else and we don't waste our breath on Damdred.
1.3. Random guy flips town. Damdred returns red. I can't foresee if the cop would claim here.
1.4. Random guy flips town. Damdred returns green. I can't foresee if the cop would claim.

Scenario 2 - vigi shoots Damdred and cop checks random guy.

2.1. Damdred flips red. Random returns red. GG
2.2. Damdred flips red. Random returns green. We don't know who the cop checked therefore we don't have any second confirmation
2.3. Damdred flips green. Random returns red. Can't foresee if cop would claim here.
2.4. Damdred flips green. Random returns red. Can't foresee if and cop would claim here.

That's IF vigi shoots tonight. Just have in mind that if you shoot today you have a good chance of killing Mafia AND will be confirmed town day2 by claiming.

Unless town defines who the random guy should be. Then vigi can securely hit Damdred and if the cop gets a green check, he doesn't need to claim day2 and we will know who was green checked.

I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2015 19:06 GMT
#1157
Okay gb that makeds sense.
I propose mm1 shot.
table for two on a tv tray
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 08 2015 19:08 GMT
#1158
Just thought dumping honestly right here.

I'm actually pretty sold on soren being mafia here.

Hf I feel is the most likely person who needs to be checked. He's my sleeper mafia pick just doing things to do them like the gb case was to create discussion but IDK or feels a bit off to me. And hf in thread eod was a bit strange to me I would check him as cop.

Mm seemed meh but IDK what to do but policy him not going with ve was weird.

Torm is another policy of hf isn't mafia Torm is
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 08 2015 19:10 GMT
#1159
still not mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2015 19:14 GMT
#1160
Damdres there no fucking chance soren is mafia here.
He just ends up on kelsier with an actual line of thought of considering his reads and re-evaluating them.

There is no way that is a bus. You basically cannot not see it......
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 56 57 58 59 60 75 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 30m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 281
BRAT_OK 121
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2886
Soulkey 131
Purpose 15
Hm[arnc] 12
Dota 2
qojqva4081
XaKoH 630
canceldota101
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m2375
minikerr38
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu489
MindelVK16
Other Games
Grubby3615
Liquid`RaSZi1518
Beastyqt801
byalli197
ArmadaUGS163
Chillindude17
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick6332
BasetradeTV263
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1412
• Shiphtur330
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 30m
GSL
15h 30m
Monday Night Weeklies
20h 30m
Replay Cast
1d 4h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 15h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.