Mafia Mini Mafia: a miniature game of mafia - Page 36

On March 08 2015 00:00 your mom wrote:
Actually played some other game with friends instead of rereading the whole game, but while doing that at least for D1 start and Soren's filter I got a new impression of Soren, a mafiaish one I didn't notice at first read of D1 start. Anyway I'm not willing to give him a newbie BotD for the stuff to follow.

I'll try to make the case nice and formatted so you don't have to read everything, or everything at once to be convinced.

# Series 1

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So this series of posts gives me the feels that he's trying to make his posts appear more important than they actually are.

1. Him finding HF's post interesting is one example of that, but has no influence on his reads.
   
2. Him not liking GB writing that suggests he finds it dramatic, but it really isn't. He doesn't scumread GB at all afterwards.
   
3. Glowingbear makes a cool move in this regard and doesn't go into that comment about himself, instead challenges Soren on his HF post. All Soren thinks of is to ask him "why", even though he just claimed to not like his post. So pretty underwhelming post in the moment he has the chance to interact more with his suspect. Instead he takes a passive, defensive stance and limits himself to a question.
   
4. When CF asks him why it's interesting, he gives somewhat a satisfying answer at glance, so I'll just conclude that HF sits null. But that kinda makes the whole interesting thing uninteresting, so I have to guess that he just posted it for the sake of posting something and make it appear important in a stage where everyone else was waaaay less serious. Also he sees the vote on HF excessively serious, which is mafiaish on page 1.
   

# Series 2

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1. The first thing I think of when he says that "mafia wouldn't put so much spotlight on them" is him saying he doesn't like GB for saying he's mafia. Of the two between HF and GB, who do you think attempted harder to put the spotlight onto himself? Right. And who gets scum- and who gets townread? Right. In the later part of his post he focuses on the amount of n's and then invalidates his own reasoning by saying he might be reading too much into it. So that's sort of wishy washy and the n's are absolutely irrelevant.
   
2. GB pokes at him saying he finds him cute. Again just a passive response to the guy he claimed to not like, and who has challenged him twice already.
   
3. He asks a rather pointless question about HF's meta, although this is my opinion. It just fits into the general feeling that this guy doesn't manage to pay attention to the "right" things. Again he replies in a defensive way after being asked something.
   
4. Rayn asks him a good question, gets answered with some generic stuff
   

Tone readish I would say that this guy is stiff as a broomstick and never lashes out at people. And when people he should be lashing out to lash out at him, he takes on a defensive stance.

Enough tryharding for now. I think the next posts are how he complains about thread size, talks about mechanics. GB pokes at him again and gets another defensive response etc. Read my stuff then read him, it's not really much to read. If it doesn't convince you I'll go on with my impressions. If he's newb, he's mafia newb and not town newb in my opinion.

On March 08 2015 00:33 Mocsta wrote:
10/10?

you're a dumb fuck.. albeit town one.

wtf am i missing here?

On March 08 2015 00:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Mom, can you tell me what you think of HF? Specially on the points I've brought?

Can I also go with my friends to a part... ehm, park?

On March 08 2015 00:39 your mom wrote:


HF is one of the guys I almost never town or scumread at D1. If he's town he will likely get killed in the first two nights, if he's still alive after that then you should start considering him as possible mafia. I found his mafia play to be fairly similar to his town play, there's a tell I use to fully decide what he is which I'm holding back cause it's too early. Whatever happens I'm not even considering him for lynch on D1.

On March 08 2015 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Soren has a pretty big towntell in voting for gb at the start of the game.
Regardless of what he gives as reasoning i don't see noob/experienced doing that given he is new to this site.

On March 08 2015 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Soren has a pretty big towntell in voting for gb at the start of the game.
Regardless of what he gives as reasoning i don't see noob/experienced doing that given he is new to this site.

On March 08 2015 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Soren has a pretty big towntell in voting for gb at the start of the game.
Regardless of what he gives as reasoning i don't see noob/experienced doing that given he is new to this site.

On March 08 2015 00:39 your mom wrote:


HF is one of the guys I almost never town or scumread at D1. If he's town he will likely get killed in the first two nights, if he's still alive after that then you should start considering him as possible mafia. I found his mafia play to be fairly similar to his town play, there's a tell I use to fully decide what he is which I'm holding back cause it's too early. Whatever happens I'm not even considering him for lynch on D1.

On March 08 2015 00:47 your mom wrote:


The last sentence I don't understand.
Most people so far have adapted to what happened in the thread and switch their votes accordingly, just Soren was the first to vote and never change his opinion when stuff was going on. I don't see why I should townread him for being the first guy in the voting thread when that's the only thing he has done in there.

On March 08 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:

As per his narrative he stated he has no clue how d1's plays out here so i don't think that's scummy.

On March 08 2015 00:50 your mom wrote:


As per his narrative this isn't his first game of mafia? He said specifically he's new to the site, and every game of mafia has a D1.

On March 08 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yes and in his world (yes this is alsotrue for like every site other than TL) D1is RVS and no info can be gathered no possibility of lynching scum.

On March 08 2015 00:56 GlowingBear wrote:


Which means votes on day1 aren't alignment indicative in his POV so you saying it is a town tell is absurd

On March 08 2015 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am saying it's far more likely he is town because as mafia you don't wanna get lynched.
If he was mafia i would think he would try to adapt to the playstyle here to please people -- to not get lynched. Like everyone knows that is a basic of playing mafia as scum. You try to say thing that people see townie, right?

My interpretation of his play is he has no clue what to do and he is not trying to fake anything. Therefore town.