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On March 09 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
I said it's not in the realm of impossible because you tried to relate his alignment to mine like an idiot. Now I've brought up another target that is very likely mafia and your first reaction is that I'm mafia. It doesn't make any sense.
Mechanics usually randomise Mafia kp when there is no action taken from scum.
Which is another argument that implies scum deliberately skipped night kill.
So you can get Yamato and Mocsta dead.
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On March 09 2015 07:54 Holyflare wrote:
Gb just stfu i asked the cop to check me too. You're conveniently ignoring that fact too.
Don't force me into writing the biggest case in my whole life.
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On March 09 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 07:54 GlowingBear wrote:On March 09 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
I said it's not in the realm of impossible because you tried to relate his alignment to mine like an idiot. Now I've brought up another target that is very likely mafia and your first reaction is that I'm mafia. It doesn't make any sense. Mechanics usually randomise Mafia kp when there is no action taken from scum. Which is another argument that implies scum deliberately skipped night kill. So you can get Yamato and Mocsta dead. Never have i EVER in 30 games of mafia seen a nk randomised when not submitted.
I've never seen a scum not submitting a night kill either
But I have seen OP's stating they are randomised
Of course hosts will not clarify this for us now since this is game changing information.
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MM1 was active. Only inactives were Yamato and Mocsta.
As Mocsta voted for Kelsier, I'd rather believe Yamato could be Mafia.
You are right, though. Lynching Yamato and checking HF is the best option. Let's do this today.
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However, I'm sure scum night kill was skipped. It was so town would make a list of inactives and lose the game lynching them. You give town one more mislynch but absolutely wins the game. Seems a fair trade to me.
I'll write a case on HF and let you think what you want.
We have very good information to work out a Mafia team.
Bye bye. I'll see you soon.
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On March 09 2015 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 08:04 GlowingBear wrote:
MM1 was active. Only inactives were Yamato and Mocsta.
I was saying i could see MM1 trying to wait Torment to come back at the last hour of the phase before making a decision, then the deadline just fucked up on him .
You just said Mafia usually write pre-emptively a name and then discuss a better kill, Rayn.
Do you believe this or not?
Highly unlikely. I'm not sure where you want to get to.
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8-1
6-1
4-1
2-1 LYLO --> this is where we are. 3 mislynches before LYLO.
7-1
5-1
3-1 LYLO --> this is what it should be if a night kill was sent
List of inactives:
Yamato
Mocsta
your mom (he was AFK through half of night 1)
Soren
We lynch the inactives and we lose.
Get what I say?
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On March 09 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote:
Honestly town lunches into inactives cop,checks hf, then goes from there it's auto win as long as cop lives
Why were you asking for a roleblock message?
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On March 09 2015 08:19 your mom wrote:
I wasn't really afk, I was only trying to give as few hints as possible as to who I would shoot in order to keep the vig facade alive to get RBd and possibly shot.
Wait, you're definetely not the vigi???
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On March 09 2015 08:22 your mom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 08:21 GlowingBear wrote:On March 09 2015 08:19 your mom wrote:
I wasn't really afk, I was only trying to give as few hints as possible as to who I would shoot in order to keep the vig facade alive to get RBd and possibly shot. Wait, you're definetely not the vigi??? If I were, then...Wifomwifomwifomwifom
Were you roleblocked?
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Mocsta is probably town dude.
We lynch Holyflare and check Yamato
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On March 09 2015 08:27 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 08:19 GlowingBear wrote:On March 09 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote:
Honestly town lunches into inactives cop,checks hf, then goes from there it's auto win as long as cop lives Why were you asking for a roleblock message? I've explained this three times GB. Why would mafia no shoot and not try to stop the cop or big from Whittling down the Scum team? It would shoe a non inactive Scum team
It sounded that you were blue fishing.
The only way to know you were roleblocked is to send an action and it not working
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You were definetely trying to make the cop out
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On March 09 2015 08:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2015 08:29 GlowingBear wrote:
The only way to know you were roleblocked is to send an action and it not working roleblocks are notified....
Thank you for not letting me get damdred in a weak but possible trap.
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On March 09 2015 08:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah but there is zero fucking chance mafia DECIDED to no-shoot...
When HF returns red at night, I'll quote this post.
I'll clear my head since I'm start getting too much into the wifom and tinfoil theories shit.
See you guys tomorrow.
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Hapa, Holyflare is listed twice
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Game is pratically solved if we no-lynch today
If we no lynch today, here is the scenario:
9-1
8-1
6-1
4-1
2-1
So, if we keep a person alive today, Mafia NEEDS to kill the cop BEFORE he kills a confirmed town.
By now, the cop has a green check on Damdred. If he survives night 2, the worst scenario is that he will get another green check.
If the vigi also doesn't die night2, we will have 4 confirmed townies (1 vigi claim, 1 cop claim with 2 green checks)
Which means day3, out of 9 players, 4 will be confirmed townies, so we would have a lynch list of five.
If we ML, night3, the cop dies, we reach day4
Day4 we will have 7 players in which 3 are confirmed townies. Lynch list of 4.
ML, night kill.
Day5, 5 players, 2 confirmed, lynch list of three.
ML, night kill.
Day6 LYLO with 3 players in which one is confirmed townie.
Game is 99% unwinnable for mafia
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On top of that, if Mafia is really AFK and missed the opportunity of shooting, another no kill will happen  so we will be able to prove if my theory is true.
Just getting Holyflare confirmed town/Mafia on day3 will be auto.
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9-1
7-1
8 people, 4 confirmed
6 people, 3 confirmed
4 people, 2 confirmed
It can be done with a lynch today too, but we can land the lynch on the cop and we would make him out. We would also narrow targets for Mafia to successfully hit the cop.
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I hope scum concedes soon because I don't want to play a boring game like this.
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