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On February 28 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:Let's recap, shall we? @1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul My last post before this vote (1759): Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post? Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle. Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown- @2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul My last post before this unvote (2133): Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum. You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts? -bows to the Palmar!whisperer- Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something. @2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel @2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from) Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05 + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts? A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP @Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy. Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it.
What is the reason? I'm genuinely asking
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On February 28 2015 10:52 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 10:47 KelsierSC wrote:On February 28 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:Let's recap, shall we? @1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul My last post before this vote (1759): On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post? Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle. Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown- @2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul My last post before this unvote (2133): On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum. You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts? -bows to the Palmar!whisperer- Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something. @2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel @2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from) Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05 + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts? A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP @Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy. Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it. What is the reason? I'm genuinely asking You don't think it's at all strange that Trfel, who can be seen attempting to generate conversation and direct scumhunting in our newbie game together that just finished (all my games are in my profile for everyone's convenience), chose to vote and unvote in silence and only bothered to post or explain himself after two votes were on him? His explanation for his behavior was weak, his follow-up post looked like cya to me, and now he's disappeared again...if any of you know Trfel or have played with him at all, tell me this looks like a town!Trfel to you with a straight face lol
That's pretty damn good case
## vote trefl
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On February 28 2015 11:02 prplhz wrote:29 Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 10:41 KelsierSC wrote:On February 28 2015 10:32 prplhz wrote:
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@KelsierSC I'll answer you question if you answer mine. This ignoring me thing is boring and useless and you don't know that I am scum for shit and since we're both here we might as well talk.
You just said I wasn't intentionally making up Oatsmaster's read so apparently the mistake I made was to think that Oatsmaster had scum read Trfel when he hadn't (although he had)? If this is the reason you're voting me you need to explain to me, why are scum more likely to make this mistake than town? Alright broken down. 1. Your jump on trefl felt opportunistic and the reason was poor. 2. When questioned you said specifically that you "got where rayn,oats and I where coming from" to me this implies you liked the cases we made. I had a one liner,oats hadn't said anything. 3. You then said later that you didn't know oats reason and assumed it was hard to follow...if its hard to follow you can't get him. Especially when he hasn't given the reason. Scum reads are fake, they have to lie , they can make mistakes.especially under scrutiny 4. You dodged rayn on some pretty obvious technicalities 5. You voted me out if fake bullshit indignation. Ok you can give reads on robik and oats now 1. Can't convince you otherwise here. The reason was as good as they come at that stage in the game and certainly better than your reason. 2. Well then you are misunderstanding me. Please answer this question: can you not see how it is possible that what I meant by "I see where they're coming from" is "I can understand why they or anyone else would think Trfel is scummy because I think he is scummy too"? I want you to either a) acknowledge that possiblity and say that's not what you think I meant and that I am scum making that up as an afterthought or b) acknowledge that's exactly what I meant and there's nothing scummy about that. 3. Again, you are assuming I said I knew Oatsmaster's reason for voting Trfel when at no point did I know Oatsmaster's reason. I am even saying it now, I didn't know Oatsmaster's reason and I don't know it now. I can see that there are reasons for why he might think a person I find scummy is scummy. As for the "hard to follow", Oatsmaster is sometimes hard to follow, at least he was back when I played with him last. 4. No I really didn't dodge anything. I answered every question asked of me. This dodging accusation is really bullshit because I am answering everything here. You might think I'm not answering well enough, whatever, but I'm very clearly not dodging anything. 5. No. I am voting you because you cannot explain why you are voting me. You are saying that I made a mistake but you cannot explain why this mistake is scummy. The rest of the reason you are voting me consists of all these unsubstantial and unsubstantiated pokes like "oppotunistic" and "fake bullshit indignation" which is at best as ridiculous as Blazinghand's "fake anger" accusation against raynpelikoneet last game. Please. You are saying that I am not intentionally making things up about Oatsmaster. Fine. Why are scum more likely to accidentally make things up about Oatsmaster than town? If anyone is dodging a question it's you dodging the question "Why are scum more likely to accidentally think Oatsmaster did something he didn't?" (which btw, he did), you really didn't answer that in that post just there. You just reinterated some other points on me I don't really care about. 2a or 2b and answer the question in the last paragraph. IAmRobik seems town for the mod comment, I don't know about Oatsmaster but slightly leaning scum.
Ive already explained why I was voting you so I dont understand why you keep saying that
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It is possible that you could have meant "i see why they would vote him".
and i already said scum have to fake reads so it is easy to make mistakes.
Your vote on me just felt desperate.
You have answered everything and yeh it can be explained by "oh but i meant this" but like you seem bad.
I have a scum read in you but I'm going to let this go for now as the trfel case is better
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That's a terrible reason to call him town.
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On February 28 2015 11:31 prplhz wrote:
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Dunno the whole thing just looks like mod would have been like "lol cute robik" if he was scum and "wtf this nerd getting on my nerves again" when he was town.
I think it's pretty solid.
Probably shouldn't discuss mod actions but then again, mod should have stayed out of the thread.
Maybe he just saw a green wall of rage and responded without really taking note of the name/alignment. This speculation is pointless.
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Rsoultin, what do you have outside of trfel?
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I'm going to give where I'm at and then conserve my posts for nearer the deadline.
I actually think that the Trefl lynch is a great lynch right now. I didn't like his entry post , it seemed like he was just making a huge post and a read for the sake of it, probably aware that he gets town read for long posts. I can't remember who said that.
I also really like the arguments that rayn and Rsoultin have brought up against Trefl, I especially like the break down Sol gave about his scum motivation. I think this direct pressure and evaluation makes both rayn and Rsol both town.
Since his return he has just asked for people to ask him questions. but there is nothing from him at all.
I also think Palmar's case against Superbia is pretty good and plus palmar kind of sitting back, chilling, watching and then making the case feels like a town palmar. Last game I played he made weak case and was an imposing figure in the thread.
I'd think Palmar is town.
I'm not sure on my prplhz scum read, like we were at loggerheads about things , his explanation does make some sense when I look back at things. The oats thing...still doesn't make any sense to me. but this case isn't as strong as the case as the one on trefl IMO.
I also think Oats could be scum. Like he had his trefl vote or whatever. But then he comes up with this sequence which makes no fucking sense to me.
On February 28 2015 14:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
This trefel lynch is way too easy.
I don't think this is true, there have been really good cases made on trefl already and he hasn't done anything, plus like rsoultin said people have been looking elsewhere.
then he says this.
On February 28 2015 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have no idea where Onegu's push comes from.
KSC and Rayn focused on prp for valid reasons.
I never gave any kind of reason before or after my vote on trefel so when Prp says that he understands where I am coming from, its not accurate at all.
Robik is a dirty liar but the mod confirmation is pretty damming.
I would actually lynch ritoky now, his push on rayn is really bad.
Like so rayn and I are focused for a valid reason..I mean does this make us town I don't know if he said this but that is what I read from it, So like if myself, rayn and rsoul are the main proponents of they lynch and he likes the case how can it be "too easy" it seems like a really weak excuse not to vote trefl.
He has been looking around to get other lynches like
Prplhz , Superbia , Calling Rayn scum and It just seems like he is sniffing around to see who he can get lynched.
He also just says palmar is town, superbia scum despite not reading palmars case. that doesn't really make any sense to me.
I could lynch Ritoky I guess but that's just because of the case on me basically just dumping two games I played, one of the games he couldn't even get the name right, then saying "he is scum". Plus he has basically tried to construe everything I have done as mafia which feels stupid. Saying my push on prplhz makes me mafia, saying my "focusing" makes me mafia, again I don't really understand what he is talking about because he just dumps the links to games.
So yeh I'd lynch between. Trefl,Oats,Ritoky, prplhz
but I definetly think Trefl is the best lynch.
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I could lynch superbia but i don't really have my own read on him it would just be your case. I think the trefl case is stronger.
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Palmars is really strong
What do you guys think of my stuff about oats.
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On March 01 2015 03:21 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 10:52 rsoultin wrote:On February 28 2015 10:47 KelsierSC wrote:On February 28 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:Let's recap, shall we? @1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul My last post before this vote (1759): On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post? Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle. Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown- @2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul My last post before this unvote (2133): On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum. You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts? -bows to the Palmar!whisperer- Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something. @2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel @2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from) Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05 + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts? A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP @Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy. Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it. What is the reason? I'm genuinely asking You don't think it's at all strange that Trfel, who can be seen attempting to generate conversation and direct scumhunting in our newbie game together that just finished (all my games are in my profile for everyone's convenience), chose to vote and unvote in silence and only bothered to post or explain himself after two votes were on him? His explanation for his behavior was weak, his follow-up post looked like cya to me, and now he's disappeared again...if any of you know Trfel or have played with him at all, tell me this looks like a town!Trfel to you with a straight face lol You yourself stated in the obs chat that my leading town was outside of my normal play, don't make me dig up the quote. You know very well that I prefer to play a more backseat analyst role. Maybe I vanished because real life came up? Maybe I went after you because I thought you were scum? Maybe I remember that in my game as mafia, you caught me on my second post for making a bad read? It would be the stupidest thing ever for me to make a "bad" read on you, since I figure you would probably notice?
Maybe this is boring as fuck
Maybe give some reads on the game
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So trfel are you saying you wanted to take on the backseat analyst role this game?
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What the fuck?
This is absolutely atrocious
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Replace me
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Seriously just delete this game and start a new one or just replace me out the game. Its fucking stupid.
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Why is this game still here.
Mod making endgame post????
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On March 01 2015 03:44 Trfel wrote:
Well then.
I'm going to take a break for a bit, be back with reads later.
That was rather frustrating.
This is it?
You just gave a. Random ass list of town reads.
Are you being backseat analyst this game?
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Meh I guess people who were happy to just call robik town could be something to look at.
The reason based on the mod post, who should go and suck robs dick for forgiveness, was poor.
Plus people play roles differently from town. So peopple who "knee he was town" should be considered right.
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Mod you accidentally the game
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On March 01 2015 03:49 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2015 03:45 KelsierSC wrote:On March 01 2015 03:44 Trfel wrote:
Well then.
I'm going to take a break for a bit, be back with reads later.
That was rather frustrating. This is it? You just gave a. Random ass list of town reads. Are you being backseat analyst this game? I'm frustrated that my best reads in this game are no longer normal reads. I don't really know what to do with that.
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN???????/?
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Seriously just get a new cohost who has a regular number of chromosomes and reroll the game. This is stupid as fuck
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