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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 25 2015 23:48 GMT
#1087
On February 26 2015 08:46 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 08:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 26 2015 08:41 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 26 2015 08:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I still prefer a Snarfs lynch over a Wave lynch. I just find it hard to imagine he wouldn't know who his main suspect is voting for and suspects if he actually put any effort into reading the filter whatsoever. I feel like Wave's play can be explained more easily by playing bad than Snarfs can.

lol

so one mistake made by a newer player in a moment of forgetfulness is hard to explain away (see look I already did it)

but an entire half-turn of filter of utterly nothing good is just "playing bad"?

artanis pls

You don't just "forget" to be paranoid. Either you're paranoid or you're not, it isn't a goddamn choice.

lol I actually misread what Snarfs was doing

But it's even more clearly explained by him being town actually. He said he was making the point that you spent a lot of time on yamato this turn for being "tunnelled on Tormented." That's not a slip or even bad play, it's a fucking rhetorical point. Come on man.

I thought you were talking about tormented again for a second.

That can't be the case since apparently he didn't even know who I was voting. What you're suggesting means he either didn't believe I was tunneling tormented (in which case he isn't reading the thread), or he believed that I wasn't tunneling Tormented since I voted on and talked about Yamato (in which case, why did he say he couldn't remember who I was voting for?)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 25 2015 23:51 GMT
#1095
On February 26 2015 08:49 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought the case by Artanis was that yamato withdrew from Tormented for a bad reason

Eden why did you misrepresent his case?

My reasons for suspecting Yamato were twofold; his constant softpushing of me without voting me (other than at the very beginning) and what you said. I currently believe Yamato is town though for the way he's been playing towards EOD.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 25 2015 23:53 GMT
#1103
On February 26 2015 08:50 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 26 2015 08:46 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 26 2015 08:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 26 2015 08:41 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 26 2015 08:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I still prefer a Snarfs lynch over a Wave lynch. I just find it hard to imagine he wouldn't know who his main suspect is voting for and suspects if he actually put any effort into reading the filter whatsoever. I feel like Wave's play can be explained more easily by playing bad than Snarfs can.

lol

so one mistake made by a newer player in a moment of forgetfulness is hard to explain away (see look I already did it)

but an entire half-turn of filter of utterly nothing good is just "playing bad"?

artanis pls

You don't just "forget" to be paranoid. Either you're paranoid or you're not, it isn't a goddamn choice.

lol I actually misread what Snarfs was doing

But it's even more clearly explained by him being town actually. He said he was making the point that you spent a lot of time on yamato this turn for being "tunnelled on Tormented." That's not a slip or even bad play, it's a fucking rhetorical point. Come on man.

I thought you were talking about tormented again for a second.

That can't be the case since apparently he didn't even know who I was voting. What you're suggesting means he either didn't believe I was tunneling tormented (in which case he isn't reading the thread), or he believed that I wasn't tunneling Tormented since I voted on and talked about Yamato (in which case, why did he say he couldn't remember who I was voting for?)

the bolded is correct, and he asked the question in jest

he's explained this repeatedly and it makes perfect sense to me. really not sure i can help you much here

Then why does he suspect me if he has no issue with my vote on Yamato? I don't understand his scumread on me anymore.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 25 2015 23:56 GMT
#1120
On February 26 2015 08:55 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 08:54 Snarfs wrote:
On February 26 2015 08:52 KelsierSC wrote:
On February 26 2015 08:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 26 2015 08:49 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought the case by Artanis was that yamato withdrew from Tormented for a bad reason

Eden why did you misrepresent his case?

what are you talkin about? i'm explaining what snarfs was saying


so snarf was misrepresenting artanis's case. then


Misrepresenting!? I think the whole thing's shit! That's what I've been saying the entire time!


well you said artanis was on yamato because yamato tunneled on torment

but I thought artanis was on yamato because of the way yamato withdrew from torment for a bad reason.

This, and it isn't the first time you've pushed this thought and I've debunked it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 25 2015 23:58 GMT
#1131
Probulous it's not too late
sicklucker choose a fucking side
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 25 2015 23:59 GMT
#1137
Well fuck, hope I'm wrong.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 00:01 GMT
#1144
I don't see eden being scum yamato, I just think he was wrong.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 00:01 GMT
#1149
On February 26 2015 09:01 KelsierSC wrote:
if we have a vigi just shoot snarfs then we can clear up d2 better.

Yes pls
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 00:02 GMT
#1151
Shooting Tormented would be good too.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 00:04 GMT
#1161
On February 26 2015 09:03 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 09:02 yamato77 wrote:
tormented is town

hey i think i agree with this!

W
H
Y

I swear when he flips scum I'm going to berate both of you so hard
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 17:51 GMT
#1269
Hi!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 17:59 GMT
#1271
The latter. Just don't talk about blue roles, they'll come forward when it's right for them to.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 18:05 GMT
#1274
Hi Dammy! How's life?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 18:07 GMT
#1276
We would both be very sad. I don't think it would further either of our win conditions.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 18:09 GMT
#1278
If you could be more specific, I'm feeling very lazy today.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 18:14 GMT
#1281
I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM.

I think you're wrong on either Tormented or Snarfs, maybe both. I've got you kel yamato eden and tron as town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 18:14 GMT
#1282
On February 27 2015 03:13 Tronak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 03:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If you could be more specific, I'm feeling very lazy today.


You were actually VERY lazy (in terms of helping catching mafia) during the most critic hours of this game so far.

I consistently pushed those that I thought were mafia until the end of the day. I don't believe I've been lazy at that time.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 18:19 GMT
#1284
On February 27 2015 03:17 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 03:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think you're wrong on me, I know you're wrong on me. I've read my role PM.

I think you're wrong on either Tormented or Snarfs, maybe both. I've got you kel yamato eden and tron as town.


Do you think i'm right on SL and Node? which is more likely do you think? i'm leaning more towards node probably

SL is and probably will be forever null to me, but I don't think Node is very compatible with Snarfs with the way they've interacted, so I'd lean towards SL though someone like Shining or Probulous is also possible.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 18:25 GMT
#1286
On February 27 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote:
Do you not think that snarfs post with all his reads is something mafia probably wouldn't do?

Also why did you vote for snarfs with yamato before deciding yamato was town after you had pushed him most of the day? Also he was the primary push on him I believe in the thread at that point.

I didn't see anything new in his reads list. Rehashing what you've said already in order to get another very viable lynch target lynched seems very easy.

Because my problem with Yamato was that he hadn't done anything other than a weak case on Tormented which he backed up on when I started pressuring him and flinging suspicions at me. When I read his filter, I saw him doing a lot of pushing and prodding, plus the mutual wave-yamato townreads helped.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 26 2015 18:27 GMT
#1287
Actually what doesn't make sense is that Snarfs went after me when he was up for lynch rather than the more viable candidate in Wave. It's possible that he knew Wave was town and didn't want to catch flak for that flip and since he knew I wasn't dying I was a safe suspect to have, but it does give me pause.
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