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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 26 2015 00:28 GMT
#1193
Clarifying needed. Keep seeing t boys. That's me and Tormented?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 26 2015 22:16 GMT
#1340
Prob isnt that what you implied(Wave being town) by asking for switch?

Also yeah hi I'm here. Sorry I'm a bit drained from the last Newbie game still(losing when you catch both scum sucks) and this game already has as much content D1/N1 than almost that entire game.

I was wrong on Wave vote and suspicion. Honestly makes me wonder which of my town reads I'm also wrong in(Damdred, Probulous).
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 26 2015 22:16 GMT
#1342
Nvm ninjad
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 26 2015 22:48 GMT
#1354
On February 27 2015 07:32 Eden1892 wrote:
Cliffs:
- Artanis has been woefully unproductive this game
- Node has one pg of filter full of obvious misrepresentations of other players and didn't care at all about the d1 lynch, parking his vote on Snarfs really early and not bothering to check back and see what had happened in the thread since
- sicklucker's chronic inactivity is alignment-indicative I'm starting to think


I feel like this is for my benefit, lol.

With Node and SL, I'm curious. Both hint at inactivity/lurking. What makes them any worse than, say, me?

See I have a bias issue in that I've been inactive for valid RL stuff. I really don't like anything about Node's filter at all but I feel hypocritical scumming Node or SL immediately. Although it really is bad that Node AFKd a vote and attacked a post from Tronak that I liked as pushing discission, even if it was a summary bit.

Artanis I think I could lynch tomorrow. Having enough energy to post that you're lazy during a night phase is just a cop out. This is a time to reassess and see where that mislynch went wrong. And if you're lazy, you're not going to post at all. Just seems off.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 26 2015 23:05 GMT
#1356
On February 26 2015 09:37 KelsierSC wrote:
Shining I have basically no read on you right now so I'll just wait for you to give your thoughts after reading.

Honestly in your shoes I might have lynched Wave aswell. From someone new to the thread and maybe someone new to the game I can see how he looks like a "textbook mafia" candidate, especially with lots of people voting on him. I'm not holding that against you.
Eden should probably know better though.

IIt was town's fault for making you a hammer but it might have been better if you just left your vote on a random person.

Honestly i'm probably being fucked by a good mafia team here but I can't give any more insights until I see what snarf is.





Why this change in tone, Kel? You have two posts almost immediately before this being sarcastic towards me, indirectly trying to make me look bad for the vote. Why once I bite back and dont get intimidated, you try to explain my actions for me?

Most of your posts you seem to not give a fuck about feelings(SL questioning especially) so why do I get the nice treatment?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 26 2015 23:10 GMT
#1358
Actually I take back what I said about the inactivity/lurking thing regarding SL. He's the odd one out.

Node AFKs without explanation. Want to see why
Artanis posted about being lazy once, havent seen him after. Could really just be lazy or waiting for day.
SL continues to post nothings showing he's here but...doing...nothing lol.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 26 2015 23:46 GMT
#1376
On February 27 2015 08:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:28 Eden1892 wrote:
what does that mean

that's twice now that you've done it

It means second.
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:28 Damdred wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:24 Damdred wrote:
Yes why did it matter that wave and Yamato were town reading each other when you voted? especially when you called waves filter after his push on me crappy?

They've got a lot of history, so if I believe Yamato is town and he's calling Wave town with nigh on certainty I do give that a decent amount of weight.


I know they have a ton of history but what does that matter if one of them is scum or not? When we were scum together we did somewhat the same thing?

It's not very difficult.
1. Yamato has a good read on Wave.
2. I believe Yamato is town.
3. Yamato very strongly believes Wave is town.
4. I therefore feel it's more likely that Wave is town.
Rocket science, it is not.


But you didn't always believe yamato was town. You were willing to lynch him. All I can see is a one liner about yamato's EoD play seems townie now and by that, Wave is town. Seems very loose with no flips to go off of to just assume one is townie for trying to save the other town.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 26 2015 23:49 GMT
#1379
Especially with you calling Wave's filter horrible. I'm a newbie. Help me figure out how someone yelling 'he is town!!" Is enough. If that's all it takes, I start shooting PMs pregame begging people to tell "he's town" when I'm up for mislynch
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 26 2015 23:52 GMT
#1384
On February 27 2015 08:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 08:46 The Shining wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:28 Eden1892 wrote:
what does that mean

that's twice now that you've done it

It means second.
On February 27 2015 08:28 Damdred wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 27 2015 08:24 Damdred wrote:
Yes why did it matter that wave and Yamato were town reading each other when you voted? especially when you called waves filter after his push on me crappy?

They've got a lot of history, so if I believe Yamato is town and he's calling Wave town with nigh on certainty I do give that a decent amount of weight.


I know they have a ton of history but what does that matter if one of them is scum or not? When we were scum together we did somewhat the same thing?

It's not very difficult.
1. Yamato has a good read on Wave.
2. I believe Yamato is town.
3. Yamato very strongly believes Wave is town.
4. I therefore feel it's more likely that Wave is town.
Rocket science, it is not.


But you didn't always believe yamato was town. You were willing to lynch him. All I can see is a one liner about yamato's EoD play seems townie now and by that, Wave is town. Seems very loose with no flips to go off of to just assume one is townie for trying to save the other town.

Reads change sometimes. Note that Wave called Yamato town too and I had a townread on Wave early on too. The fact that they townread each other strengthened one another. I didn't go in depth on why I changed my read on Yamato as there was little time, plus like I said I felt Snarfs was scummier. I wasn't certain on Wave being town by any means.


I know you didnt, hence my last post asking you to help me explain it now. Reads do change but if I can't readily see where and how it changed, it holds as much weight as "he was scum and unsure of how to spin his read so he goes as vague as possible."

I don't want to jump to that conclusion without seeing what you have to say first
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 00:08 GMT
#1396
Gg Damdy. You will not die in vain.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 00:44 GMT
#1405
Ugh yuck I'm never a fan of these things. Thist post isn't to say I don't believe Artanis could be scum, as I can see it and I've had suspicions myself, but guys. Unless its super early pressure, the last thing we should be doing right now is setting an auto lynch at the beginning of Day Phase. If you sure he's scum, let him prove it or prove who he isn't over the next 48 hours.

Tormented's instavote right after Eden looks like a way to cruise D2 on auto pilot btw
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 00:50 GMT
#1407
In other words, if he is your scumread, then by all means push him, but don't let pushing your scumread stop you from hunting other scum.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 00:54 GMT
#1408
On February 27 2015 09:48 _Tormented_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote:
Ugh yuck I'm never a fan of these things. Thist post isn't to say I don't believe Artanis could be scum, as I can see it and I've had suspicions myself, but guys. Unless its super early pressure, the last thing we should be doing right now is setting an auto lynch at the beginning of Day Phase. If you sure he's scum, let him prove it or prove who he isn't over the next 48 hours.

Tormented's instavote right after Eden looks like a way to cruise D2 on auto pilot btw


I am willing to be swayed if he provides a good case on someone else. I don't expect we will get into any kind of auto lynch unless he continues to look scummy.

Who else should we look at Shining since Node is still afking?


I want to see yamato. I find it odd that he was willing to stick his neck out that hard for a town read D1. Obviously, I would defend one of my strong townreads if I deemed it necessary but not to the point where it is solely based on months old meta and being "friends". It just seems like a really convenient way to distance yourself from the mislynch. And he's been pretty absent from the night phase.

I also really wanna know what SL was hinting at. His play is lacking but if the reason for it is a blue role and he found something, I'd like to know what he found.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 01:24 GMT
#1411
On February 27 2015 09:54 _Tormented_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 09:50 The Shining wrote:
In other words, if he is your scumread, then by all means push him, but don't let pushing your scumread stop you from hunting other scum.


Like Artanis himself did D1? No, I will continue to push others. Would still like to hear from Node when he gets back. I believe Snarf is town and therefore would like to hear Node's justification for his D1 posts.


Pretty much exactly what I was getting at. Hmph. +1 town point for you.

And ya I had Snarfs as town, too, so I want to see the same.

Speaking of which...you avoided a "mislynch" Snarfs, assuming my read is right. What do you plan to do with this extra day you've been blessed with?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 01:28 GMT
#1412
On February 27 2015 10:03 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 09:07 sicklucker wrote:
I have some night actions to report later

how much later


A thing crossed my mind concerning this. I'd say pressuring him and pushing him is useless(see:Kelsier interaction) at this particular point, unless you really want to just Lynch him.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 01:33 GMT
#1414
On February 27 2015 10:30 _Tormented_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 10:28 The Shining wrote:
On February 27 2015 10:03 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 27 2015 09:07 sicklucker wrote:
I have some night actions to report later

how much later


A thing crossed my mind concerning this. I'd say pressuring him and pushing him is useless(see:Kelsier interaction) at this particular point, unless you really want to just Lynch him.


What is the point of even saying what he did? Any idea what he would be trying to accomplish by just throwing that out there and afking?


Yes, actually, but if I'm right, saying it here where a scum might still see it would ruin its effectiveness. Although I'll be super pissed if I'm wrong.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 02:06 GMT
#1421
Light or dark beer? Cheers mate.

Its not hard to figure me out at all. I'll even do it for you. As scum, I'm a lurker and like to sheep as easily and quickly as possible. As town, I have a slow game due to my hatred for D1 and not having learned my way around it. It picks up after voting analysis(which I learned from Damdred ironically) and after players start being inconsistent or not contributive. This is why I am willing to vote Artanis. I just won't do so right away, especially with 3 votes already on him. It won't be me but I'm interested in seeing who, if anyone, will defend him.

I do like those points on Artanis, though meta isn't one of my biggest strengths. As a newbie, have to ask, how do I verify that he was in fact not mislynched in any of those games? In my newbie games here, diving 1 or 2 old games was easy but how do you find all of those?

And welp, there is the possibility Node afks D2 as well and gets modkilled. I only mind that if he flips town.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 02:07 GMT
#1423
On February 27 2015 10:55 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 10:54 sicklucker wrote:
I got roleblocked

5000!


Kek.

Inb4 I believe in my earlier post about SL more strongly.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 02:30 GMT
#1425
Woah. :o Ty. I'm offended I'm not there, though.

So you're saying your town meta is not actually playing the game? Roger that. You're playing here, though...scum tell? Lol.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
February 27 2015 02:32 GMT
#1426
Inb4 last post was a joke. Its just really frustrating that I'm caught up, I'm here in thread, D2 has started and now that Damdred is gone, discussion seems to have gone with him.

After 4 votes dropped on Artanis. Humph.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
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