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On February 23 2015 10:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2015 10:08 sicklucker wrote:
Like ya ok im on your side for that. I already told koshi this. But kurimis off the table for now Why though? If you are now thinking geript is town then why is Kurumi off the table? Koshi told ME the green check is on someone else so.....someone somewhere is lying about something.
Of course koshi was lying about the green check. If I had to guess, the green check is on me.
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On February 23 2015 07:25 geript wrote:Show nested quote +Original Message From Eden1892: le epic afk xdddd i'm a scrub vt who don't need no blues wbu bby Original Message From geript:
Haven't you pm'd me what your role is yet? Show nested quote +Original Message From Eden1892: i dont need u then >:/ lol not asking further, don't need to know more~ didn't want to say this in the thread, b/c i want snickers to keep talking without getting any cues from me, but: i kinda think snickers is ok. his explaining seems sincere to me, and i don't read the "i won't use pm's" thing the same way you did (don't think he was trying to be bold or make a statement). i'll let him talk more though to see if that impression changes Original Message From geript: I'm not a vt  Original Message From Eden1892: le epic afk xdddd i'm a scrub vt who don't need no blues wbu bby Original Message From geript:
Haven't you pm'd me what your role is yet? Show nested quote +Original Message From Eden1892: going with [link=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/478192-office-mini-mafia?page=3#55]this[/link] as his opening post since he ebwop'd. if you mean the post before, it looks a lot more bold, but he immediately ebwop'd to something decidedly less confident so i assume he didn't mean the initial post in isolation as for how i read it - he's stating some facts, some that's trying to be relevant i guess (the meta stuff), some weird shit that doesn't matter (not liking daisies). i made the comparison to lightningstrike earlier; it's like if we took ls's posts and put them in a straitjacket or something. it's just strange, doesn't seem especially suspicious, just abnormal his subsequent posts didn't seem all that evasive or dodgy to me. i don't really agree with his read on you (which ?appears? to be mafia) but he just looks like he's trying, is where i'm at Original Message From geript: How did you read his opening post then? Original Message From Eden1892: i dont need u then >:/ lol not asking further, don't need to know more~ didn't want to say this in the thread, b/c i want snickers to keep talking without getting any cues from me, but: i kinda think snickers is ok. his explaining seems sincere to me, and i don't read the "i won't use pm's" thing the same way you did (don't think he was trying to be bold or make a statement). i'll let him talk more though to see if that impression changes Original Message From geript: I'm not a vt Original Message From Eden1892: le epic afk xdddd i'm a scrub vt who don't need no blues wbu bby Original Message From geript:
Haven't you pm'd me what your role is yet? So who's scum again Koshi? Tell me I'm scum. Because you're totally getting lynched after me. Like there's literally no way you ever could think I'm mafia. There's literally no reason to say that you didn't know about this conversation. Because I'm pretty sure I've pm'd you about it specifically. I know I've talked with Rayn and VE and You about this specific interaction. Like does anyone think that town!Koshi makes an argument saying that I don't have a fucking 1.5-2 hr conversation with somebody on the fucking when I literally told him, that his brother asked who he was talking to, or the fact that I knew he went to work because he mentioned it, or the fact that I knew that he went to UCLA, or the fact that I knew that he had trouble reading liancourt. Like, town!Koshi doesn't make any such shitty argument saying, "I don't believe that conversation ever happened." You know why, because even as mafia, I don't lie about that shit. Like that's worse than shit tier and Koshi doesn't start any argument based off of that. You know who thought Eden was mafia, yet never once talked about trying to PM him or contact him or anything else. Koshi. You know why? Because his argument changed around whatever various things. In the end it was, "He's around but he isn't doing anything so he's clearly mafia." But why didn't Koshi ever fucking try to pm, or skype, or anything with Eden. It's because they're fucking mafia partners. Ez bus is real. Rayn just sheeped Koshi D1 because he was sure that there was 1 mafia between SL and Eden. Exactly 1 mafia between the two. Koshi said the same thing, multiple times. Now he's sure that SL is mafia too. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. What reasoning has he provided for his change in reads on SL? None. What's Koshi accusing me of doing? Not narrowing down my reads at all. Not taking a look at things in the light of new evidence. Who's reads haven't changed in the light of new evidence? Koshi. He's still pushing SL despite new evidence that in the least should get him to consider a different path. Who's pushing someone who's obviously fucking town? Koshi. Who's continuing to ignore scummy fucks who aren't doing anything who will 100% lose the game for town if they continue to go unflipped? Koshi. What's Koshi's reasoning for all this? Because he "thinks" someone who is fucking obviously fucking town is mafia. Bullshit. There's literally no way that town Koshi could be this bad. How has Koshi's read on Kurumi changed? He's literally repeatedly said that he doesn't think Kurumi is town. Really? You don't think he's town. Funny how every time he comes up you have a new reason not lynch him. A bullshit reason that I blow up. Like, "Oh Geript's case on Kurumi is all meta." Nope. Wrong bitch. It's only partly meta. And it's the hardest part of the case to explain because most people here are idiots and have no clue how to even fucking use meta right. Like Rayn tried to get me to call 2 of Kurumi's mafia games town games to trick me; but I fucking know kurumi's games and threw that shit right back in his face. You know why. Because he's fcuking terrible at meta. The greatest thing about it is that both mafia games taht he presented I didn't even play it. Like Koshi's whole excuse for Kurumi is that he "blew his wad too early;" Funny, that's the exact same excuse that Eden used. The thing is Kurumi's wad, doesn't prove anything. It doesn't differentiate in any way between mafia sharing the QT or town sharing the QT. It's a push that isn't designed to do anything except make it look like he's making a push. It's a push that literally has not shot of going anywhere except for saying that "one of these 5 players is potentially mafia." Something that only fucking idiots didn't already know. You know what Koshi's excuse for never looking at Kurumi seriously? Why bus the GF? So Koshi, why'd you bus the RB over the GF?
Here sl.
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Do I have to make a case for geript or can i have a pass? I made one day one.
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On February 23 2015 11:06 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2015 11:02 Snickers wrote:
Do I have to make a case for geript or can i have a pass? I made one day one.
Also, Koshi made a case on me when this guy is around and is doing the exact same damn thing that Eden was doing? Really? Really?
What are you talking about?
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And how is that different from you?
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Oh sorry, I just think he is typing a bunch of bs.
1. Talking about how weird the voting is. Okay not many people were here during hammer.
2. talking about how koshi does not want to lynch in actives. Maybe the inactives are the medic/cop.
do I need to continue?
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On February 20 2015 15:26 Snickers wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 10:46 geript wrote:On February 19 2015 10:43 Snickers wrote:
I don't think it should be interesting to you. If you don't think it should be interesting, then why ask about it? So this post reminds me a lot of myself. He is trying to catch very specific things that seem out of place. Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 10:50 geript wrote:On February 19 2015 10:45 Eden1892 wrote:On February 19 2015 10:32 geript wrote:On February 19 2015 10:10 Snickers wrote:
Those two questions seem very different. Maybe I am just paranoid.
I think that because you are asking a lot of questions. Specifically asking me why i am trying to look townie. But you never said anything to eden about miller claim? Which is a vt claim right?
Idk you are looking more and more like mafia to me. It's a non-claim. There's no miller in setup. Why would I care about a nothing claim over someone afaik I haven't played with who made an interesting opening. It just feels like you're opening is distinctly different from the rest of your posts in a very odd way and I want a read on you. so interesting it merited no acknowledgment  i just want to be the funniest player on tl geript what's your read on Kit-Kat right now? admittedly, I don't really see where your questions are going, but from a recent past experience coaching a game you were in, I know that I tended to think that about all your questions  and you DID usually end up somewhere decent. so where yat right now? At first I was pretty town on Snickers, but the more he posts the more I want to lynch him. His opening is really confindent, "Fuck you guys, I'm not pming for shit. Read the thread newbs." But his following attitude is really, really evasive and scared. It's quite a different tone. He doesn't feel comfortable at all which is odd considering the opening. Then all of a sudden he loses his cool. I do not see myself losing my cool here. And instead of being so particular, He just quotes me, but does not bold or anything. Why was he caring about specifics then a few posts later not caring at all. Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 11:11 geript wrote:On February 19 2015 10:57 Snickers wrote:Idk i would disagree with both ur statements about my attitude. The first post(and second) wasn't trying to be rude. I thought it had some tasteful humor. I rely don't see anywhere I was being rude. I could at least see the scared being thought of by others. Why would a change in tone be a clue of my alignment? So are you reading me as scum cause you want to or just misunderstanding me? On February 19 2015 11:01 geript wrote:On February 19 2015 10:57 Snickers wrote:Idk i would disagree with both ur statements about my attitude. The first post(and second) wasn't trying to be rude. I thought it had some tasteful humor. I rely don't see anywhere I was being rude. I could at least see the scared being thought of by others. Why would a change in tone be a clue of my alignment? So are you reading me as scum cause you want to or just misunderstanding me? It's a really dissonant tone. It's very hard to jive the different because you feeling confidant to tell people in your 4th game that you're not going to PM anyone or really deal with that shit at all and the rest of your posts. It's a bravado post in many ways. I find it interesting how confident you are initially versus the lack later on. Especially as lack of confidence tends to be more likely to be mafia. I find it especially more so considering your lack of experience. You could be town. IDK. But I just think you're a decent lynch as of right now. On February 19 2015 11:06 Snickers wrote:On February 1But 9 2015 11:01 geript wrote:On February 19 2015 10:57 Snickers wrote:Idk i would disagree with both ur statements about my attitude. The first post(and second) wasn't trying to be rude. I thought it had some tasteful humor. I rely don't see anywhere I was being rude. I could at least see the scared being thought of by others. Why would a change in tone be a clue of my alignment? So are you reading me as scum cause you want to or just misunderstanding me? It's a really dissonant tone. It's very hard to jive the different because you feeling confidant to tell people in your 4th game that you're not going to PM anyone or really deal with that shit at all and the rest of your posts. It's a bravado post in many ways. I find it interesting how confident you are initially versus the lack later on. Especially as lack of confidence tends to be more likely to be mafia. I find it especially more so considering your lack of experience. You could be town. IDK. But I just think you're a decent lynch as of right now. Your posting seems off to me. I also feel like your avoiding the question. And as far as the bold part goes... Do you think it would be good to say that? Also your pm made me giggle. How does me saying I think you would be a good lynch right now in any way avoid your question of what my read on you is? So he cares about specifics but then he completely misunderstands me and what I am saying. Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 11:22 geript wrote:On February 19 2015 11:15 Snickers wrote:
I'm seriously not trying to be rude. But I wasn't asking whether or not you thought I was scum. That was clear. I was wondering if you were misunderstanding me or just wanting me to look scum. You think I've been rude but idk I thought my posts have been nice.
Also why would tone be an alignment tell. Especially the first post. It seems too early to be thinking about that. I've read a number of people right just on the first post. I read slam as not town pretty early on last game. I've read Marv as both mafia (correctly) and town (correctly) from his first post. I've read Vayne and other from their first post alone. Nothing is "too early." Also how am I misunderstanding you? I've explained why tone is indicative of alignment. I've explained why I find your tone and switch indicative. Like how could I be misunderstanding you? Like I really don't get that at all. I haven't said anything about you being rude. You might be misunderstanding my summary of your post. I didn't take it as rude. Then there is this gem. I am asking why tone tells alignment and he goes on this first post spiel. Hes not reading clear at all here. Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 08:58 geript wrote:
Like what Kurumi is saying is literally him being fucking lazy. That's why I'm pushing him. Like I'm not sure if I'm mad at him for spoiling something that could've been really fucking amazing, or if I'm certain he's scum because he's too fucking lazy to actually read an 18 post QT and look at it carefully. This post reminds of myself a lot. One way I try to find scum is looking for people who do not care about the game. He uses the word lazy here, but I think we both mean the same thing. Finally, he hasnt pushed me even though I have heard multiple times of him being some God of Pressure but If i was in his position I would push the fucking shit out of me. Also the whole deal with kurumis trap timing and he how he sprung it too early, I would do that to look townie as fuck. Now Oats made a good point of that kurumi and Geript being together would be weird as fuck. I will relook at Kurumi right now. So to recap. I see Geript and me as similar players. As both alignments. He reminds me a ton of my scum game and seems to switch his principals a lot and just not follow them. Thats the best way I find scum.
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So yea geript reads closely at the start of the game, but when i post my case on him further into the thread, he doesnt even see it? yea that makes sense.
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So I am going to bed soon and no promises about activity tomorrow. I only have 3 hours of free time tomorrow until 4 hours after lynch. I am going to reread some shit, say who I am willing to lynch, then going to bed. Does anyone have any questions?
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Geript why would you out the medic and cop if you are going to get lynched?
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Like how am i suppose to take geript seriously with posts like that. Such a hard fucking thing to do. How does that post have anything important in it?
HOW THE HELL DOES A SCUM POST SOMETHING LIKE THAT LIKE WTF. HOW THE FUCK DOES A TOWN POST SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
but how I am not suppose to lynch into my top towns top scum read. and my top scum read before all of this bullshit.
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Why do you think I am the medic. When did you even start thinking that?
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What pm did you send me instead of eden?
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So why did you never say that even though I brought that up as a reason to think you are scum multiple times in the thread. I have been bringing that up since the start of the game.
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On February 23 2015 11:44 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2015 11:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
He's defending himself from a lynch. Regardless of his alignment that does not = nothing. If you're trying to assert that you are posting as much content as geript you are sorely mistaken Name 1 read he's given today. Name 1 read he's given all game long. I can't think of a single person he's called scum other than his push on VE which was literally only memorable because it was the craziest thing I may have ever read.
but you cared a little bit ago?
But you dont care if its you?
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show me the time that you sent eden the pm that was suppose to come to me.
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I was talking to geript I want the time like 12:00 or w/e
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On February 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
Original Message From sicklucker:
I know ur a role so dont ask qeustions like what are my case on you that I cant really answer without letting others know
Ok then whos the other role if I am one of them?
If snickers is just the green check koshi and co this is scummy as hell because hes asking me who the other role is
what does co mean?
Why would you put this in the thread and not message it to koshi?
So where is your case on me now that you let that pm out that you wouldnt let out if you actually thought i was a role you would pm koshi?
the fuck siclucker
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so wheres the fuck is your case on me when you were calling me scum earlier?
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