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On February 17 2015 23:25 VayneAuthority wrote: ##vote: blazinghand Are you still scum reading him on (mostly) meta? Nothing he's said has changed your mind? | ||
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On February 18 2015 00:25 Palmar wrote: I really don't like this LS stuff. He is being exactly like he always is. I really liked rsoultin's top town reads. Tbh this is the list of people we lynch into: raynpelikoneet Half the Sky ritoky VayneAuthority Alakaslam prplhz Damdred Fecalfeast there's at least 3 mafia in this list. I just need to narrow it down a bit further. This makes me feel a little better: Rayn, Ritoky, Breshke (now Damdred) and FF are scumlisted for me - leaning scum on PRP as well after examining KSC's case and his filter, if I'm wrong on any of them it's probably Breshke. Just about done with the FF case... | ||
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I know I didn't label part 1, but Part 1 stems from the manner in which FF illogically jumped on his conclusion to scumread me (page 4 of FF filter, page 42 of thread) I later called him out on page 48 of thread for not naming who he was sheeping when he admitted he was sheeping someone's read on me. Multiple people were scumreading me at that time (quote from above is hidden below). On February 16 2015 02:54 Half the Sky wrote: Figures I'd missed this when he posted it. I don't like FF's response to me at all. If he was sheeping someone, he should have specified whom he was sheeping. There were at least two different players scumreading me at different points in the game, and if he felt strongly about me as a scumread (from his list I would appear his strongest scumread), I wasn't seeing any indication of him pushing me, which I see as a scumlike behaviour. Never mind not explaining the jump in reasoning despite saying he found "curious" things in my filter. It doesn't sound committal enough to justify me being his top scumread. Now Fecalfeast has additional problem, and that is the way he looks at my reads on Rayn. I made my original post on Rayn on page 41 (5th post down). This was Fecalfeast's intial reaction (page 3 of his filter, page 41 of thread). On February 15 2015 13:43 Fecalfeast wrote: So you did. I like your rayn post, see also that he spent almost an entire page (game page not filter page) getting upset over the semantics of rsoultin's post that made fun of BH's RNG Now fast forward to last night when Fecalfeast looks at my read on Rayn. From page 7 of his filter (page 105 of the thread). On February 17 2015 17:16 Fecalfeast wrote: Is this all HTS says about rayn being scum or am I blind? NOTE THAT THIS IS THE EXACT SAME QUOTE FROM PAGE 41. Then immediately in response to Ritoky he says that my post - THE SAME POST FROM PAGE 41 THAT HE LIKED and THE SAME THING HE QUOTES IN PAGE 105 - is now repetitive and boring. On February 17 2015 17:18 Fecalfeast wrote: I would fucking love to be SK one game but no, I am just bad town. Give me some help on HtS, do any of her reads seem to be based on good foundations or what? Like that rayn post is repetitive and boring So which is it, Fecalfeast? You liked that post when I first made it on page 41 and now you think it's repetitive and boring on page 105. This coupled with the way his reads jumped on me, not naming a sheep target when I asked him for how he jumped to his conclusion on me, shows that he's finding absolutely rubbish reasons to scumread me and this latest inconsistency shows how badly he's overreaching. When you combine this with overall the rest of his play: - cited lack of motivation somewhere in his filter - the discomfort that he showed at the very beginning of the game (and confirmed town Lian, myself and someone else went after him for it) - and NOW going after LightningStrike (and I know FF has played with LS at least a few times now to know his style) who he should know is often misread for scum Fecalfeast is MOST CERTAINLY SCUM... LYNCH HIM WITH FIRE PLEASE. ##vote Fecalfeast | ||
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On February 18 2015 00:33 Palmar wrote: Why do YOU think ritoky is mafia? answer quick please. Posted my case on FF, sorry. Ritoky is scum largely because he's pushing me for BS reasons. I know you think I'm easy to read, but I also know when I'm not having one of my better games as town largely because I'm having trouble understanding things in the game. This happened to me in Carol. Ritoky was scum and is trying to pick me off as a (perceived) easy lynch the same way he did in Carol when I was having trouble early on in the game trying to get my reads together (and this was also before I purposely played more scummy in that game). Also not really contributing much in this game especially as of late, and scum activity in general tends to fall off over time in a game. | ||
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I don't know what else to tell you other than I saw Blazinghand at the time as not credible. If you don't buy my ignorance/lack of understanding fine, but you should also know this is not the first time I've struggled with elements in the game. Mechanics I've had issues with twice now (Newbie LX, Carol) for example. | ||
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On February 18 2015 00:57 rsoultin wrote: I read your FF case...so basically it centers around his opinion on your case changing from one day to the next and his read on LS, right? That and his jumps in logic on me. Here's the thing. I don't mind people scumreading me, but I can tell when they have valid reasons versus BS reasons. You aren't understanding my play, but I also realise why you are scumreading me, plus I am also aware your reads on me in past games have not been very accurate anyways, so I'm not particularly surprised at how you are reading me. Carol also taught me how scum tends to prey on easy mislynches and I'm seeing quite a bit of that from Rayn, Ritoky (who also isolated the BH quotes when he made his first argument against me) and FF this game. You on the other hand are demonstrating some logical thought although you are wrong. | ||
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On February 18 2015 01:02 rsoultin wrote: Oh, lol, the one where LS said Robik is town because he's angry? Something like that. I will admit I've not dug it up again. | ||
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Also Palmar since you previously asked me about Ritoky, I wanted to add that I also engaged Ritoky on his read on me. I had forgotten to tell you this but I felt Ritoky took my reads on BH out of context. I'll quote the relevant things from our conversation (page 6 of my filter, page 89 of thread). My initial reaction to his scumread: On February 16 2015 08:58 Half the Sky wrote: I have no idea why Ritoky is scumreading me. I discussed BH's lack of contribution and got on with BH for several posts discussing his RNG and potential non-RNG reasons for scumreading VA before voting him. And then when he claimed, I had a problem with BH's claim that far from the deadline, when he could alternatively read the thread or discuss alternate targets. Context please. I asked him on page 89 why he disputed my reason for voting BH: On February 17 2015 06:14 Half the Sky wrote: Since you're here Ritoky, why were you saying I was voting BH for no reason when I'd a) already discussed my issues with him in one post and b) engaged him prior to voting him? You basically isolated that one post taking it out of context from the rest of my discussion. I voted Rayn, but after pushing BH I switched. He responded that I lacked conviction, etc, etc. (see indexed quote) but I further disputed his reasoning and added that he did not even consider what I did AFTER I voted BH. On February 17 2015 06:36 Half the Sky wrote: You can have conviction on multiple reads, surprised you didn't see or consider the things I said after I voted BH. The fact I didn't move my vote from BH prior to going to bed (after the cc, but before the whole dual-JK issue came up) should probably tell you something, and that something shouldn't be a scumlike behaviour. ...which further supports him taking my actions out of context AND trying to push me for a BS reason (saying my reasoning for voting him was weak). | ||
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On February 18 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote: That's not the point slam. The point is he read the same thing and came to two different conclusions, which I can only assume are based on the current vibe in the thread at that very moment. 100%. Slam, his second conclusion was in answer to what Ritoky asked of him. Ritoky was (and still is) scumreading me. His first was a general reaction to my initial post, and Rasputin IIRC also liked it as well. | ||
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On February 18 2015 01:32 LightningStrike wrote: rsoultin sheep HTS's case on FF my lady! I know she said she was filter diving him last she posted, but she's also at work...6h behind me puts her at 10:30am, so she might not be back for awhile. | ||
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On February 18 2015 01:44 rsoultin wrote: Also, the change in reactions to your case, HtS, is a good point lol. Just wish all your cases didn't center around people scumreading you xP Fair play Rasputin, I realise why it looks like it's OMGUS but like I said there's a reason I took fault with those three and not with you <3 It's not that they are scumreading me, it's why they are doing so. In fact, if you remember how LS called me out as scum in Newbie LX, just that he didn't communicate it clearly or elaborate on me before he was mislynched. It's the same story here. And just as you were about to look into me, we took you out.  | ||
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On February 18 2015 01:59 Blazinghand wrote: Oh there's a wagon on FF. Can someone point me at the case, I haven't been paying attention I'm in the office for another 30 BH, if you have any questions. Then I go afk for marathon training/dinner/etc for about 2 hours after that. | ||
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I see Fecalfeast is trying hard to not be tonight's lynch. Guess what? I have even more evidence that he is scum. He wants to push LS now? Part 3 anyone? Can we get an order of baby seals on the side there Fecalfeast? The Case Against Fecalfeast, Part 3 Glanced again at his filter. Earlier D1, he townread LightningStrike. On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote: from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post AGAIN HE STARTS WITH A TOWNREAD ON LIGHTNING STRIKE. On February 16 2015 13:45 Fecalfeast wrote: which is weird because earlier he asked about eden. maybe I'm misinterpreting this but I usually like to ask people about people I'm scumleaning or undecided on. Why would he side with his undecided/unsure read when he already called BH town? Also the above is problematic. He makes no conclusion from this post, also he doesn't take into account why LS changed his read. THERE WAS NEW EVIDENCE and that was the counterclaim. AND HE SAID HE BELIEVED THE COUNTERCLAIM. LS almost ALWAYS explains his reasoning for a change in vote. On February 17 2015 04:37 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm not caught up (pg 82) but I have made a post almost exactly like this one already. To me this appears he's trying to take advantage of a townie's inaccurate read on LS to get him out. Again, this maintains the point that he's catering to thread sentiment. There is ONE MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between the way Kelsier is going about it and the way FF is going about: The former, a confirmed town is actually interrogating and doing the work prior, and the latter is making posts and drawing it out of context. Plenty of holes in his case against LS. Which goes back to my anti-easy lynch argument. First point on LS's vote against Superbia. How in the bloody hell do you say that read is forced?!?!?!? On February 17 2015 17:03 Fecalfeast wrote: This is a really dumb case and I'm not sure I've seen LS actually vote that early ina day before based on just an opening post. Almost looks forced. YOU KNOW HE USES META IN NEARLY EVERY ARGUMENT HE MAKES AGAINST PEOPLE. GOOD LORD. That was a key point I made against you in my case, and this only reinforces that. Next 2 points on townreads AGAIN are ALL BASED ON META. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS. And your last point on LightningStrike's reaction to JKs is TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. On February 17 2015 17:03 Fecalfeast wrote: This reaction looks genuine almost. As in, LS knows alaka isn't mafia and when he claims his first reaction instead of "LOL you are mafia" is "WTF 3 JKs??" as if he was upset about the balance. I scumread ANYONE who takes ANYBODY out of context. How did you know he was upset? I see nowhere in your filter for what I can find that you've asked him or confirmed with him or tried to trap him if this was a genuine scumread. Finally Superbia challenges you on meta reading him. On February 18 2015 06:06 Fecalfeast wrote: I dislike meta reads sorry. Unless he has some obvious tell then I'd rather you just pointed it out to me THIS IS A COP OUT. Conclusion/TLDR Version 1 You came with a scumread on him out of seemingly nowhere 2 The points against him disregard his normal scumhunting methods. You have 6-7 votes against you and you won't even look at disputing meta reads, which is the biggest point of contention on you. 3 Unlike Kelsier, you aren't pushing/interrogating him to find the information needed from the points you do conclude. 4 You are taking his posts out of context. 5 You're looking for the easy way out here, an easy mislynch as others are scumreading him out of ignorance of his normal play. Rasputin already distinguished between those that played with him and those that did not. LYNCH FECALFEAST WITH FIRE TONIGHT And Fecalfeast, I don't have a problem with you scumreading me. RTFT. I told Rasputin what I'll tell you - I have no problem THAT people are scumreading me. I focus on the WHY, end of. I've put in MORE than the amount of necessary work to bury you. You want to accuse me of OMGUS? Now you can't. Because my points are also against you scumreading LS. So it's absolute rubbish you think I'm going for the easy mislynch. You aren't even defending yourself against my case FFS. | ||
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I also shouldn't be playing this game on a fucking tablet. Hang on. | ||
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