VII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunning Plan... - Page 5

On February 15 2015 01:31 Half the Sky wrote:
VA - I played with him in NYE party mafia and Void. I have yet to play with him as scum. The information I got on his scum game was in an obs QT. His town game, he honestly does jack all. I don't know how else to describe it. In NYE, the first game I played with him, I scumread him based on doing nothing and not wanting to solve the game...IIRC, the only posts he made were that he was relying on blue roles, and didn't care for reads, or something. I incorrectly scumread him and pushed his lynch, others called me on it, - and he got lynched. Void - same deal. He did jack all D1 and most of D2. Only after I flipped scum D2, did he start doing work.

In this game, because he seemed to be trying right off the bat I had given him a scumread because it's not what he's ever done as town, not in the few games I've played with him as. I backed off once he said the start time was conducive to his schedule.

For now, I'm reading him null. Ritoky suggested I wait until the votes came in D1. If someone should flip he might start doing more work, like he did in Void when I flipped. This is probably the way I'm going to go about reading VA.

On February 15 2015 01:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
Kelsier is tricky, I think he just likes making really bad posts that come across as forced scum posts. He did this last game too and he was town. He seems to do the same thing to me and reads my posts as scum every game

On February 15 2015 01:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
if you guys wanna hear a story about me, ive never been the person to start out strong. When I played chess competitively, I was known for my late game (pawns/king) and average at early/mid game which is why I tried to trade pieces ASAP. When I do work IRL I can procrastinate forever and then get absurd amounts of work done in very short time to meet deadlines. Even video games like league of legends I only play late game characters that take time to build up.

There is my story.

On February 15 2015 01:42 Half the Sky wrote:
Rayn, on Superbia, I have never played a game with Superbia, so my reads on him will ignore meta.

Limited filter on him makes it hard to figure if him questioning BH's RNG was a genuine misunderstanding on his part, or if he did roll scum, an attempt to try and scumread BH. I'm going to say null on him for now because I don't know him and I feel I need more to read him.

On February 15 2015 02:00 Half the Sky wrote:


I answered all your questions on all the people you asked on. You gave me four people and I gave you my reads on them. Including the extra question on Superbia.

On February 15 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Is there a reason for him to call me mafia for the reason he is calling me mafia for?

On February 15 2015 02:06 Half the Sky wrote:


On the other hand you are scumreading Kelsier. I gave you my reasons for townreading him based on experience. What don't you like about him?

On February 16 2015 17:26 Palmar wrote:
Maybe the problem will solve itself tonight?

rayn who are you guys shooting? Can it not be me please?

On February 15 2015 18:33 Palmar wrote:
rayn is mafia

Here's a recap on what happened.

1. Palmar does a bunch of townie things (one of those included calling rayn scum for the hts stuff)
2. rayn says "palmar is town"
3. Palmar talks about bluehunting
4. Robik says "palmar is top town because of the bluehunting thing"
5. prplhz points out reading op is not very palmar-like
6. rayn retracts his townread on Palmar

The problem here is that rayn ignored everything that had caused him to call me town in the first place. He overrode all lhis previous notions based on what basically amounts to nothing.

To answer the question about why I remembered it... idk? I just did? I usually have at least one tab open on page 1 for quick access to filters so I do skim the ops quite often through games.

But the important part here is that changing people's mind in mafia is extremely hard. I've gone on rants about how it's always the best idea for mafia to shoot whoever is right because the people who are wrong will keep being wrong. Rayn however seems to have no problem dropping a read that I'd imagine would be pretty central to the way he is approaching the game (he puts value into reading "big name" players) because of basically nothing.

Like when rayn thinks he has something, he doesn't just drop it. There was some game where he was convinced prplhz was mafia (prplhz was town) and it took marv and I fucking forever to convince him to drop it and sheep marv onto someone... Toad I think?

Like if rayn doesn't believe the bluehunting thing makes me town (like robik does) I would expect him to defer to his earlier reads, not just straight up drop his townread on me.

##vote rayn

On February 17 2015 03:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
i still think BH is mafia, not buying the 2 JKs

On February 17 2015 04:00 IAmRobik wrote:

please respond.

On February 15 2015 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay i am going to sauna now.
cya in an hour.