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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:13 GMT
#477
The real question is who is more dumb? The people playing the 30% chance game, or the people sheeping the people playing the 30% chance game? xP

Maybe lian will answer that, lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:13 GMT
#478
On February 15 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:05 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.


Got me there. Now answer me the real question: does he or does he not do this as either alignment? Or, in this game, any alignment?

does.
so what does that have to do with anything?

like you arte making a super dumb argument in which the conclusion is null. there is no reason to argue about this.


Then do I or do I not have exactly the same percent chance of catching scum by policy lynching BH as he does by RNGing a lynch?

If my argument is dumb, so is his xP And you're dumb for arguing it with me. A whole thread full of dumb dumbs ^^

Last post about this,.
I am not arguing you are not allowed to vote for BH as a policy.
I am arguing about the fact you used RANDOMIZED as a part of your reasoning for voting for him which is 100% invalid.


Already conceded that point. Do you have another? xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:16 GMT
#480
On February 15 2015 00:14 LightningStrike wrote:
HTS did you forget in Student IV when I was Mafia my post count was very low compared to my other games?


What was that, your second game on TL? Your "meta" has changed every game as you grow more confident. Why wouldn't it change for your scum game, too? xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#482
On February 15 2015 00:12 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm back. Rasputin, in either case, I thought that was what you were supposed to do if you rolled miller. If not, then well, what's done is done, and you, Rayn, whoever else can call my play bad for all I care.

Also I don't like Robik's post about me because he's not reading and understanding why I'm asking the questions I am, also ironic coming from a player that has said in the townplay discussion thread that he thrives on conversation. Funny that he'll scumread someone else for trying to do the same thing.

As I maintained in Horn of Africa, LS is someone I find it very difficult to read, so he is the type of player I will ask 20-odd questions in trying to figure out his alignment. (Right now, I'm leaning scum on him) If you think you have a better way, suggest it. Ritoky made the assertion that Fecalfeast wasn't comfortable. His behaviour didn't change when I started talking to him, I was looking for that change.


I believe the point was whether or not you were getting anything from your game of 20 questions. So what makes you lean scum on him?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:18 GMT
#484
On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

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On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


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On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


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On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?


Dumb argument lol ^^ It's an RNG scumread. He's making up his reasons, anyway xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:20 GMT
#488
HtS may well be trying to use entirely different circumstances from a game she knows more than a few of us played in to justify her instant miller-claim. I have a hard time believing she's so stupid that she didn't understand why he claimed in the game she herself was modding.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:23 GMT
#492
On February 15 2015 00:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Rasputin, I'm not talking about the RNG scumread. Read the bolded. Try again.


Lol, wow. Sweetie. Lovely. Dumb one. <3 Why would you think that BH would have legitimate reasons to scumread an RNGd scumread? Or that his illegitimate bastard reasons would make him more scummy than the 30% scummy he objectively is?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:28 GMT
#497
On February 15 2015 00:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:17 rsoultin wrote:
I believe the point was whether or not you were getting anything from your game of 20 questions. So what makes you lean scum on him?


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 14:43 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 14:39 Breshke wrote:
HtS what have you actually gotten from all these questions?


We're only 40 mins into the game.

I have some preliminary thoughts right now. I was scumreading LS based on his first few posts on Robik, didn't seem like he wanted to commit one way or another, even though I qualified the read to a single post. He answered though based on his meta. Still noncomittal though. Surely he formed a read when Robik afked in Linux. Seems weird he wouldn't. I'm not liking the answers I get from LS so far, so tentative scumread.


I explained the same to Breshke. If he can talk about Robik more, it would help me resolve this issue.


And it's unusual for LS to not commit because...?

Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:32 GMT
#507
On February 15 2015 00:30 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:23 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Rasputin, I'm not talking about the RNG scumread. Read the bolded. Try again.


Lol, wow. Sweetie. Lovely. Dumb one. <3 Why would you think that BH would have legitimate reasons to scumread an RNGd scumread? Or that his illegitimate bastard reasons would make him more scummy than the 30% scummy he objectively is?


Am I missing something? Or completely misreading? I'm sure I'm having a dumb moment, but probably even more frustrating I'm not even sure what you are driving at.

To answer your question, he wouldn't. I said it was unproductive. That method in theory could have just churned out any name. I'm just focusing on the non-RNG reason for scumreading him.

I think we're talking about something completely different.


Nope, what we're actually talking about is the ridiculousness of you expecting BH's non-RNG reason to push his RNG scumread to be valid xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:34 GMT
#513
On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
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On February 15 2015 00:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 14 2015 23:15 prplhz wrote:
On February 14 2015 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi purplehaze!
Long time no see. Did you roll town?

no i rolled mafia so please help me with the blue hunting.

On February 14 2015 16:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Policy lynch miller claims.
Townies do not fear getting copped.

Also blazinghand probably is mafia.

for realsies?

On February 14 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like what i basically want to do Palmar, is to figure out blazinghand, robert, and wirh your help prplhz. If we can fiure out those players alignments on D1 the game becomes really OP for the town.

why these players?

Are you joking with your Mafia claim?

Have I ever mentioned how much LightningStrike is my favorite person on TL?


You may have mentioned this once or twice, yes xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:37 GMT
#520
On February 15 2015 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this.

town


I dunnae. Coming into the thread to tell people where to vote is kinda blah imo :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:39 GMT
#526
On February 15 2015 00:38 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:32 rsoultin wrote:
Nope, what we're actually talking about is the ridiculousness of you expecting BH's non-RNG reason to push his RNG scumread to be valid xP


Valid, as in a real reason? I made my interpretation of that early on before BH reappeared.

So let me read past page 17 one more time.


Technically valid is logically sound, but sure?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:40 GMT
#528
On February 15 2015 00:39 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:36 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are people really this dumb?
geez i guess BH was right.

RAYN: BH ARE YOU FORGING THE READ ON VAYNE BESIDES RNG?
BH: OF COURSE I AM RAYN!


......

Spoilered is some hardcore OGI:

+ Show Spoiler +
He basically claimed to me pregame in #tlmafia IRC that he was going to say something like this and then laugh cause no one would call him out on it. I also claimed to him that I was going to RNG him mafia and then push his fucking face until he gets modkilled.

can you please not fucking do this

the game is the game and outside of the game is outside of the game and you don't mix that shit up because there's no reason to do it and it cannot possibly lead to anything good

i know you're just "lol" robik and blazinghand is like "i'm so good i can do what i want" but can you please not do this shit


Terrible post.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:45 GMT
#535
hell, any read would be nice, prplhz, unless you'd like to just keep coaching people to not bring things outside the game into the thread
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:56 GMT
#550
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.


Death by number logic? lolol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 16:02 GMT
#557
On February 15 2015 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey guys it's been an hour and this thread has gone from good stuff to shit with nothing much new.
Now put your votes into the right place and we'll move on. I have just told you who the mafia are.

If i am wrong on 3/4 of my scumreads i am terrible, but i am not.


Nah, still doing shtuffz xP Like determining what the "right place" is. Got some errands to run, though, so maybe when I get back you'll get your wish A 30% chance is optimal after all, like totes obviously.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 19:22 GMT
#618
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 19:40 GMT
#620
On February 15 2015 04:28 liancourt wrote:
Just ignore the claim and judge based on content


Ah, so we do have a lian. Hi, lian. ^^ You're worshiping at the altar of the RNG god. Is this because you think VA is scum independent of BH's 100%/30%?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 19:43 GMT
#621
On February 15 2015 04:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:28 liancourt wrote:
Just ignore the claim and judge based on content


Ah, so we do have a lian. Hi, lian. ^^ You're worshiping at the altar of the RNG god. Is this because you think VA is scum independent of BH's 100%/30%?


EBWOP:
My bad. I missed your switch to FF somehow @.@. Disregard the derp.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 19:54 GMT
#624
On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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