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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:15 GMT
#173
On February 14 2015 14:11 IAmRobik wrote:
Seriously though. Let's vote this day to be IML and lynch BH before he even posts


I thought you said in other threads you hated IML?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:18 GMT
#177
So you think Robik deserves his own category, just like Vivax did in Void?

You played with him in Linux I believe, no basis for comparison even in the slightest?

(I know you didn't play Void, but I know you shadowed/obsed that game, and if you remember Vivax's craziness....)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:23 GMT
#182
My mistake Breshke, could have sworn he had linked a thread. Alright.

VA, I claimed on the previous page FYI.

Robik, why are you advocating the use of IML (or in this case, an IML like strategy) when you have stated in other threads that you aren't a fan of IML?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:26 GMT
#186
I have never played with BH as a player, Ritoky (or other vets) does he do this every time?

Does BH also troll when he plays? Does he troll D1?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:29 GMT
#190
On February 14 2015 14:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
I have observed a couple BH games. He does some math bullshit and RNGs his lynch as you know. What I have seen is that most people agree that RNG lynch is a good place to park as mafia and ignores him. Then BH writes his case on his RNG lynch and the sheep just kinda march right into the pen.


Does he do this as mafia or as either alignment?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:30 GMT
#192
On February 14 2015 14:29 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 14:26 Half the Sky wrote:
I have never played with BH as a player, Ritoky (or other vets) does he do this every time?

Does BH also troll when he plays? Does he troll D1?


he believes that on D1, a lynch through RNG gives the same or higher probability of lynching mafia than coming to a consensus/going on reads/etc.

depending on how saucy he is feeling he will say that RNG should be committed to beyond D1, but sometimes he doesn't go that far.

needless to say, many disagree with his POV on d1, and others view it as a cop-out where he doesn't actually play D1.


Alright, this makes a little more sense. It's plausible he could be on in the next few hours, since I recall him being US west coast...so he if pops on, we'll see what he says.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:31 GMT
#196
On February 14 2015 14:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 14:18 Half the Sky wrote:
So you think Robik deserves his own category, just like Vivax did in Void?

You played with him in Linux I believe, no basis for comparison even in the slightest?

(I know you didn't play Void, but I know you shadowed/obsed that game, and if you remember Vivax's craziness....)

He deserves his own category and yes I know that Vivax got his own category after that game because he went batshit crazy in that entire game.


You played with Robik in Metal Mini (I think?) and in Linux. Why do you think he deserves his own category now? Didn't you form your reads on him in prior games?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:35 GMT
#205
On February 14 2015 14:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Ritoky is mafia btw


Because....???
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:38 GMT
#210
On February 14 2015 14:32 IAmRobik wrote:
Slam might be mafia for making too much sense


He tries harder I think as scum, but still doesn't have the thread pull from what was said in the Void obs qt, for those of you that played that game.

Still not sure how to specifically read his posts, per se.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:41 GMT
#213
I also understand VA is another player who is cited as a good scum player. Does jack all in his town games (from my experience, NYE Party mafia and Void) D1 but I'm seeing 3 posts so far in his first 20-odd minutes. He actually plays as scum, from what I was told in that Void obs qt....so I'm thinking a tentative scum read on VA based on meta....

Robik/Slam/Ritoky any thoughts on this?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:43 GMT
#215
On February 14 2015 14:39 Breshke wrote:
HtS what have you actually gotten from all these questions?


We're only 40 mins into the game.

I have some preliminary thoughts right now. I was scumreading LS based on his first few posts on Robik, didn't seem like he wanted to commit one way or another, even though I qualified the read to a single post. He answered though based on his meta. Still noncomittal though. Surely he formed a read when Robik afked in Linux. Seems weird he wouldn't. I'm not liking the answers I get from LS so far, so tentative scumread.

Scum lean on VA based on meta as explained.

Ritoky, can't tell right now.

Robik tends to troll a bit early on, but not enough exp with him to scumread yet. Was scum in the only game I played with him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:52 GMT
#220
On February 14 2015 14:37 LightningStrike wrote:
I didn't form reads on him for meta reasons but for stuff he did in that game like in Linux he hard claimed named VT and just did nothing in that game other than getting mad at us.


Hmmm....

On January 31 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya that is bad play by Robik hard claiming a named VT without any pressure at all. It going to allow Scum to PoE on who is the 2nd blue.


Above quote isn't a read per se, but it leads to one.

On January 31 2015 13:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Robik is uncc'd blue so he's town but I hate his claim though since it's easier for Mafia to PoE the 2nd blue.


On January 31 2015 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I was townreading him before. No because sicklucker always have a weird Day 1 and makes the game awkward almost all of Day 1 either through a trap or trying to coach people...... I also don't like Robik's claim but there is no counterclaim to him so he is a uncc'd blue.


On February 02 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Robik is more likely scum than Damdred and HF so we lynch Robik next Day Phase.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:55 GMT
#221
On February 14 2015 14:47 Breshke wrote:
Robik tends to troll a bit early on, but not enough exp with him to scumread yet. Was scum in the only game I played with him.


I don't understand the robik bit. Are you saying you think he trolls as either alignment? The wording also confuses me like you plan to scum read him you just dont have a reason yet. Can you clarify.[/QUOTE]

My experience with Robik was limited to a short Linux game and Hammertime mafia.

In Hammertime, he rolled scum. He trolled a bit for D1, though eventually he did push the same person who was my top scumread. I had townread him once he started getting his act together and taking the game more seriously.

However, in the post-game (he afked due to real life reasons and we got endgamed) I had learnt from geript that the easiest way to scumread Robik was based on his postcount. So that's why I think I need to wait.

I'm using my prior experience to dictate how I should read him, basically.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:56 GMT
#223
Damn quote boxes.....fixing...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:57 GMT
#224
Breshke, fixed the prior post.

On February 14 2015 14:47 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 14:43 Half the Sky wrote:
Robik tends to troll a bit early on, but not enough exp with him to scumread yet. Was scum in the only game I played with him.


I don't understand the robik bit. Are you saying you think he trolls as either alignment? The wording also confuses me like you plan to scum read him you just dont have a reason yet. Can you clarify.


My experience with Robik was limited to a short Linux game and Hammertime mafia.

In Hammertime, he rolled scum. He trolled a bit for D1, though eventually he did push the same person who was my top scumread. I had townread him once he started getting his act together and taking the game more seriously.

However, in the post-game (he afked due to real life reasons and we got endgamed) I had learnt from geript that the easiest way to scumread Robik was based on his postcount. So that's why I think I need to wait.

I'm using my prior experience to dictate how I should read him, basically.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:57 GMT
#225
Breshke, what do you make of all the activity so far. Do you have any preliminary reads from this first hour of gameplay?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 05:59 GMT
#226
Also FYI, I'll be on for roughly the next hour before I head out for a very long training run.
28km to be exact, but I have a marathon in April, it's needs to be done before the V-Day fun
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:05 GMT
#232
On February 14 2015 15:03 IAmRobik wrote:
Yes. I take from the evil and give to the innocent ritoky!

Also, I love archer so fucking much


Evil? Are you scumreading anyone and if so whom? Robik? Myself? Can't really tell from how you are phrasing your posts.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:07 GMT
#237
On February 14 2015 15:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Hijole trigger plz

Gimme someone whom is which CHUPAZI?


It must be the time of day for which my brain is mush, but to put it bluntly, I don't understand what you mean there.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 06:11 GMT
#243
Breshke,

On February 14 2015 15:06 Breshke wrote:
I don't understand this but i feel i should


Regarding my quotes on LS...here's the thing.

I asked him why he didn't have reads on Robik, not even preliminary. He appeared noncomittal at first. Didn't seem he was making any basis for comparison, just called him mad in this thread. But then in Linux, he'd given some reads based on that same behaviour. So my point is, why isn't he doing the same here or at least trying to compare?

That's why I think for the time being he should be scumread.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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