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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 07:15 GMT
#320
On February 14 2015 16:12 Half the Sky wrote:
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On February 14 2015 16:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
Am I to keep notes on when and why I make posts before, during and after I make them? I'll have to find a pen....


That is besides the point.

You don't seem very comfortable. Ritoky was the first to make such an observation. I agreed upon seeing your latest response to me.

But even prior to my observation, the easiest way to refute that would have been to change your behaviour.

I don't care what you and ritoky think of my posting, though. I'm not sure how you can gauge my level of comfort through text anyway... You also don't seem very comfortable. You seem like you are trying so hard to act like you're trying to solve a game that's been going on for less than 3 hours...

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 07:16 GMT
#322
On February 14 2015 16:14 liancourt wrote:
FF is playing as if he cares. It's a town tell so...he's mafia. FF might actually be mafia.

##unvote
##vote FF

I would gladly accept a mislynch for trying to play, if only to stop people from saying exactly what you just said.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 07:17 GMT
#325
Better afk, then. Don't wanna let my team down!
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 07:17 GMT
#326
I'd hate to have liancourt, self proclaimed lynchbait, scumreading me!
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 07:17 GMT
#327
Better stop posting soon, might seem scummy
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 07:18 GMT
#328
Damn this is hard, I can't help myself
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 07:19 GMT
#333
On February 14 2015 16:18 Half the Sky wrote:
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On February 14 2015 16:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't care what you and ritoky think of my posting, though. I'm not sure how you can gauge my level of comfort through text anyway... You also don't seem very comfortable. You seem like you are trying so hard to act like you're trying to solve a game that's been going on for less than 3 hours...


Not any different from how I normally play as town. I say what is on my mind. If you don't agree with it, then counterargue.

Level of comfort? You just said you were annoyed at how serious I sounded. That indicates you're not comfortable with me, at least. You've played with me before. You should be somewhat familiar with my town play.

I smoke weed upwards of three times a day. I'm happy I can remember my name most days
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 07:22 GMT
#340
On February 14 2015 16:21 liancourt wrote:
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On February 14 2015 16:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damn this is hard, I can't help myself


You are over reacting a tad bit like a lass. Don't you generally don't give a hoot and play more comfortably?

Oh fuck you caught me, I thought I could hide my hooters but they just don't wuit
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 07:22 GMT
#341
quit
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 09:03 GMT
#362
On February 14 2015 18:03 Superbia wrote:
What's up boys.

You're in this?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 09:23 GMT
#366
On February 14 2015 18:22 Superbia wrote:
I'm just going to go ahead and call someone mafia:

raynpelikoneet

Just for funzies?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 09:25 GMT
#368
30%, right?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 09:45 GMT
#378
On February 14 2015 18:44 Superbia wrote:
Why did you feel the need to split up the explanation post and the post with the actual RNG?

The first post generates the number with the post ID, like if you click the # at the top right of his post it will match the number in the second post
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 09:46 GMT
#380
On February 14 2015 15:35 Blazinghand wrote:
It seems clear to me that it's time for an RNG lynch.

So here's what happens

1) you all will follow me since I'm the best player here

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s sitewide post count modulo 17. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. Basically, in addition to a "what post in this thread" post ID, each post has a unique sitewide id # that's increasing so quickly because of TL traffic, I can use it to RNG effectively.

I've done this before. It works. If you don't know what "modulo" means or how my rng lynch works after this explanation, you are not mathematically and educationally qualified to claim that this lynch is not RNG.

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For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-14 by taking that number mod 14. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 13 mod 14 = 13. 14 mod 14 = 0. 18 mod 14 = 4. 19 mod 14 = 5. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 14. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = rayn
2 = HtS

etc etc all the way up to

16 = Breshke
0 = FecalFeast

(since a multiple of 17 modulo 17 is 0, not 17, we end with 0).

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1. raynpelikoneet
2. Half the Sky
3. ritoky
4. VayneAuthority
5. liancourt
6. Town Puppy
7. IAmRobik
8. rsoultin
9. LightningStrike
10. KelsierSC
11. Palmar
12. Alakaslam
13. prplhz
14. Blazinghand
15. Superbia
16. Breshke
0. Fecalfeast


there is no force on earth that can persuade me that RNG lynch is sub-optimal. bow before the RNG lynch. behold its glory and its horror and all of its majesty

has this as a link http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757725

On February 14 2015 15:36 Blazinghand wrote:
The Post count for my RNG declaration post was 23757725

23757725 mod 17 = 4

4th player is VayneAuthority

##vote VayneAuthority

VA, your lynch has been determined by RNG. SUBMIT YOURSELF UNTO DEATH.

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 10:59 GMT
#400
On February 14 2015 19:57 Palmar wrote:
This is the part where everyone is meant to get excited btw

"why is palmar calling rayn mafia"?

"Is he trolling? is he 4real? is this reality?"

watching proleague so just imagine i did all that stuff and continue
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 21:11 GMT
#641
I was dealing with the other game I'm in first, catching up now.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:08 GMT
#653
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



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On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

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On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


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On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


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On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
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On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:16 GMT
#656
On February 15 2015 07:11 ritoky wrote:
how is no one else bothered by rsoultin's excessive use of smiley faces and copious quantities of unnecessary adjectives?

Sounds like something I'd be bothered by, though I didn't notice it while skimming pages 24 onward
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:19 GMT
#658
On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh, ok. I accidentally closed my catchup post with all my quote tabs and restoring my tabs lost all of it. Shoddily putting it back together...



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On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch".
There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH.

I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all.

On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


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On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


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On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing...

On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck.

On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw.

On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues?

I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you.

at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't"

On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote:
oh wait, the blues are the mafia?

then I was like ".....really?"
On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote:
Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart.

But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku.

now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him.

On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote:
I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying.
1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions
2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?)

These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to.

Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor

On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote:
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On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 16:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is there to comment on? He thinks my posting is unnatural. There's nothing to refute or discuss on that point..

Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything...


This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before.

And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here.

But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others?

OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why:

(1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test.
(2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger.

Aww I like this puppy

On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 04:45 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 15 2015 04:22 rsoultin wrote:
Waffling on a player is interesting enough anyway, but when you're not interacting with anyone?

1. HtS is mafia because she claimed miller and they're unaware...maybe?
2. Claiming miller is a town move and you're going to claim miller. (Is this an official claim, or what? And if you're miller and going to claim, then it follows that millers are aware, so what's with the first post?)
3. You don't like this post by HtS because it's "strange."

What's your conclusion, Puppy, or do we have to wait for you to finish discussing it with yourself first?

It is interesting to be accused of waffling when I haven't given an opinion on whether HtS is mafia yet.

(1) Do you have an issue with this point?
(2) Of course it's not. I would be hard-cc'ing and trying to lynch her otherwise.
(3) I think I explained why it's strange, non? Care to comment on that instead?


I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that?

And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP

please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it.





from my reading I have these reads
rayn - scumlean
palmar - scumlean
LS- town
HtS - scum
puppydog- townlean/null
superbia - scumlean

If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post


Where did the scumlean on superbia come from?

You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.

super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy.

Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?"
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 14 2015 22:20 GMT
#659
On February 15 2015 07:19 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 07:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 15 2015 07:11 ritoky wrote:
how is no one else bothered by rsoultin's excessive use of smiley faces and copious quantities of unnecessary adjectives?

Sounds like something I'd be bothered by, though I didn't notice it while skimming pages 24 onward


the post you quoted has 3 smileys in it, how did you not notice the emoji?


Probably selective reading, I dislike constant emoticon usage so I imagine I blocked it out.

Does rsou usually use mad faces? I guess not if you've taken notice
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