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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 21 2015 22:50 GMT
#3529
please no shenanigans. I know there is not a single vote on me but I just feel the shennies lurking around the corner.

I WILL defend myself if put under pressure as town. It's objectively bad play to not give myself a chance to do so.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 25 2015 11:12 GMT
#4121
You shot us ritoky. Terrible decision.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 25 2015 11:14 GMT
#4122
Like our entire strategy hinged on maintaining control of the thread. With damdred unflipped, me buddying him hardcore and controlling discussion, we had perfect control over the thread.

Then the house came down burning when you decided to help town by flipping us.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 25 2015 11:14 GMT
#4123
On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 12:23 Town Puppy wrote:
On February 16 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
TP why do you just shutdown BH's post about there being a possible 2 JK's. If you arn't up to date with the game why is it impossible for you to think if you are town BH could also be town.

I could understand this if you had been scum reading him beforehand but you haven't in fact you seemed to be happy to go along with his RNG lynch for a while so you couldn't have thought he was that scummy.

If BH had never claimed or had claimed a different role would you be scum reading him right now?

Because

(1) Two jailers is really weird from a design standpoint IMO. I've never seen or heard of it.
(2) Two jailers with the same name borders on bastard game. Read the flavor in the OP. the PRs are clearly individual characters. Why would there be flavor indicating the PRs are unique persons... In a game with multiple copies of one role?

This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic.

That's all I can say.

Also, this is completely unacceptable.

I considered just quitting the game at this point.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 25 2015 11:22 GMT
#4125
On February 25 2015 18:07 ritoky wrote:
I have sent in my concession, cuz I am in an unwinnable position with cop + prot + confirmed towns.

really frustrating game for me, I feel I played really well and the mafia didn't hold up their end of the bargain. I mean 3 of em basically quit (1 of which got subbed), and for some reason they decided to leave confirmed towns alive forever....would love to see the discussion or lack thereof in their QT about why in the living hell they left so many confirmed alive.


So, to answer this more precisely. We did not want to keep the confirmed townies alive. The problem was that there were so many of them and we also needed to get rid of some good players. Robik being the big one.

We shot superbia n1 because well, he was semi-modconfirmed. We rb'd Blazinghand and killed TP. I even tried to communicate this to the SK:

On February 17 2015 04:17 Palmar wrote:
You should shoot BH btw, he's modconfirmed JK


Notice how I mentioned shooting BH, not TP. It was oddly specific.

I can't control the fact prplhz/breshke were a bit shit.

On night 2 we felt we were in a good position, but at that point we started worrying about the SK shooting us. The Rayn lynch was great and we decided due to robik being both right on too many things and a complete pita to deal with we had to shoot him. However, the reason we managed to lynch rayn -

Like I want to be clear here, it's not normal for a mafia team to be able to orchestrate a lynch on a town rayn who has nailed 3/4 of the mafia.

- The reason we managed to lynch him is that we went with a very tied together strategy. The only guy on the mafia team that wasn't heavily involved in our circlejerk was prplhz. If you had shot prplhz and not damdred, the mafia team would have stayed afloat. But shooting Damdred put me in a terrible, terrible position for forcing the townread so hard on him. With me down and you shooting rsoultin the next night, there wasn't much left we could do.

So no, we did our end of the bargain, we even controlled the thread for a long time. It was you who brought the mafia team down by shooting our most vulnerable position. I can't blame you for that, but I also don't think you can blame us for it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 25 2015 11:28 GMT
#4128
On February 25 2015 20:24 Superbia wrote:
Consider the scenarios, though.

1. Don't say anything:
Town basically straight up loses because it is very likely that at least one, if not both the JKs get lynched. Worst case scenario, imo.

2. Say something:
This sucks for mafia because there are basically two mod-confirmed town right off the bat (even though a part of town still doubted this until the very end), on the flip side both the save roles are outed. Town-favored, since it mod confirms two town and prevents mafia from fake claiming their roles at any point.

3. Say something and restart the game:
I think this might have been a decent solution, since it was only day 1. This gives both town and mafia some insight as to what the set up is. However, it is still town-favored since the exact number of roles are now known so a fake claim is slightly harder.


I think the best way to prevent this sort of situation is to tell both JKs that there is another JK in their role PM.


If town is moronic enough to lynch off setup speculations, that's their problem. Not mine.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 25 2015 11:32 GMT
#4133
On February 25 2015 20:29 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 20:28 Palmar wrote:
On February 25 2015 20:24 Superbia wrote:
Consider the scenarios, though.

1. Don't say anything:
Town basically straight up loses because it is very likely that at least one, if not both the JKs get lynched. Worst case scenario, imo.

2. Say something:
This sucks for mafia because there are basically two mod-confirmed town right off the bat (even though a part of town still doubted this until the very end), on the flip side both the save roles are outed. Town-favored, since it mod confirms two town and prevents mafia from fake claiming their roles at any point.

3. Say something and restart the game:
I think this might have been a decent solution, since it was only day 1. This gives both town and mafia some insight as to what the set up is. However, it is still town-favored since the exact number of roles are now known so a fake claim is slightly harder.


I think the best way to prevent this sort of situation is to tell both JKs that there is another JK in their role PM.


If town is moronic enough to lynch off setup speculations, that's their problem. Not mine.


They both got the exact same role names. I don't know, maybe town needed a hard wake up call in this regard. But then we'd have townies bringing heat to Sent in post-game.


Correction: moron townies.

Arguing that breaking rules to favor people who are dumb/bad makes no sense.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 25 2015 11:36 GMT
#4137
This is the reasons I create setups with a mason.

A single mason, who can talk to all the other masons. All of who are himself.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 25 2015 14:25 GMT
#4219
On February 25 2015 20:46 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 20:12 Palmar wrote:
You shot us ritoky. Terrible decision.


The night I shot damdred, I basically had to. #1 because damdred has a fucking soul read on me, think he has gotten my alignment wrong once in the past 8 games or something, and he was mafia so he was probably just making shit up. secondly because if I don't shoot you there, and we fuck up the lynch the next day I am in an unwinnable position. the shennanie on you really fucked us both palm, cuz I wanted to kill you that night so that we would lynch town -> I kill mafia, lynch town -> I kill mafia; etc. until we were down to f5 or f3. unfortunately I thought I was mafia siding with slam all game and turns out I had him and rsoul flipped :/

I really wanted that LS lynch through, and if it was anyone who was normally coherent, I feel like it would have gone thru.

Yeah I sort of get it. And we probably would have pushed you some if damdred was still alive.

Like it was just a perfect storm. You shot the link in our team that we really couldn't afford to lose given how we had built our relationships.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 25 2015 14:42 GMT
#4222
On February 25 2015 23:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Palmar would you sheep my case on prplhz if you weren't Mafia?

I have no idea, I can't think like that.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 26 2015 11:00 GMT
#4362
On February 26 2015 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
I've seen plenty of people recover from a bout of inactivity like that. I've done it myself, rayn.

i am not you and i am not anyone else and when there is a game full of sucking Palmar's dick (who was btw doing nothing) there is nothing i can do.

bitches love my schlong
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