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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 04:57 GMT
#3296
Almost 5am....moment of truth....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:00 GMT
#3299
In the event I get shot, my reads are pretty much the same, and after the whole thing with LS tonight, I'm even more confident in my reads. I also think Robik is likely town, but I can understand the arguments for him being SK given he didn't have much of an impact earlier this game, and I had asked Palmar to evaluate his impact and he said something about the lines of it being off.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:00 GMT
#3301
Ritoky and prphlz lynch with fire. Those two, either one of them have to go.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:00 GMT
#3302
Last will and testament...good luck everyone.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:03 GMT
#3306
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:13 GMT
#3308








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The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:13 GMT
#3309
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:27 GMT
#3318
Nice. Bloody nice. That gives some material to work with.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:28 GMT
#3319
GGs Robik and Damdred.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:30 GMT
#3320
Palmar championed Damdred for the Rayn lynch, but it was Damdred who sheeped us on Rayn and he sheeped me on FF.

Need to see who townread him and who he was trying to protect. The manner in which he tried to implicate LS lines up with that result. Way too opportunistic and you called him out then Ras.

I need to go to the gym, but this result gives me a good sense of direction.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:31 GMT
#3321
Also remember to check Breshke's filter since that was a replacement slot. I was right on his meta, so I feel vindicated by that, maybe my reads aren't so lousy.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 05:35 GMT
#3322
Good night to all my lovelies in the US (and Canada - I did not forget you FF hehehe) and good day to my fellow Euros <3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 06:23 GMT
#3327
Because I just had to before I disappeared for 6+ hours at work.

Quick skimming of both Breshke and Damdred's filters is somewhat revealing.

Damdred does a decent job of not giving away too much information, but both Breshke and Damdred are soft defending Palmar, both of them are also pro-BH, which leads to even more likely that BH is scum.

Breshke tries to steer FF away from a Palmar scumlean early game.

On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read.


I'm feeling even better about this Blazinghand scum read. Also note he survived tonight.
Evaluate Robik's impact versus BH being a JK, Robik wasn't too impactful until the prospect of mylo and there was that sense of urgency.

Robik questioned the Ritoky/BH push on me and echoed my concern on BH's devil-may-care attitude in mylo.

Breshke votes on BH with thread sentiment - no explanation, not even to sheep.

Damdred doesn't seem to like Fecalfeast though in his filter, sheeped my case almost too easily and a decent chunk of picking on him through his filter...also in parallel with quick votes on Rayn as well. Folks, there's a good chance here Fecalfeast might actually be town. I might actually be wrong here on Fecalfeast.

Based on these filters alone:

Fecalfeast and VayneAuthority are most likely town. Yes I might concede here the way Damdred is going about FF and the way he voted on him....Fecalfeast is most likely town.

Damdred was opportunistic on LightningStrike. Those of you wanting to lynch LightningStrike, think again. LS is likely town here too. The way that Breshke waffled on him but didn't want to TR LS in the end also indicates this.

Consequently this makes Ritoky and BH in turn look worse given how they went about shit in evaluating LS, the same way that Damdred did.

Palmar is more likely to be scum, but here the evidence isn't as solid. Soft-defence of him by Damdred and Breshke is problematic and Rayn was questioning him as well.

Blazinghand is most likely scum at this point.
We need to figure out the vote count on BH at the time that Breshke unvoted. That will be key.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 06:26 GMT
#3328
Updated 20/2/15, 0630 GMT
MYLO scumteams by player (number in parenthesis is the page number they called out that given scumteam)
Damdred confirmed mafia RB D3 flip

Palmar (154)
FF, Ritoky, VA, prplhz

Rsoultin (153)
prplhz, Ritoky, BH, Super
5th: Slam/HTS/Robik/Damdred

VA (155)
LS, Ritoky, prplhz, Breshke (until rep)
Robik as SK maybe Damdred

HTS (167)
Ritoky, Blazinghand, prphlz (in order of preference)
SK - not sure atm

Robik (151, 153)
LS, Blazinghand, Rasputin, TBD

LS (155)
Ritoky, VA, Robik, Alakaslam, prplhz
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 06:27 GMT
#3329
Townies, share your revised scumteams based on those filters <3

Now I'm off...good day lovelies <3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 06:29 GMT
#3330
EBWOP - my scumlist should include Palmar in there as a possibility. Not quite enough evidence there yet. Need to revisit Palmar's filter.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 08:15 GMT
#3350
On February 20 2015 16:55 ritoky wrote:
roleblock him and let townies try and wifom BH as a ML is an easy strat. superbia not dying is the more odd one to me. if you're rbing a jk and his vet power is claimed to be expended....eh no point in going down the wifom road now when there's a clear scum in LS on the table.

if BH is alive tomorrow, then start thinking about it since medic alive through that many night phases while claimed is sketch-city.


OP does not indicate roleblock preference between RB and JK, so we can assume that roleblocks resolve simultaneously, just as Superbia concluded with simultaneous KP.

If RB and JK roleblock resolve simultaneously, what you just said makes zero sense.

Basically you're arguing that mafia would roleblock but not kill a confirmed JK over a vet with no protection?
When that aforementioned JK still has a potential to roleblock a possible janitor in the mix?

You bore me, Ritoky.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 08:19 GMT
#3352
On February 20 2015 16:03 ritoky wrote:
if you're town right here HtS, which I am having a hard time believing, you need to re-orient yourself. there's literally 0 reason I am ever mafia in this game after what I did to LS. even if you don't like the slip, look at the completely manufactured and flipped read, if you don't like THAT and you're still unconvinced, look at the examination of my own meta and how he accuses me of a tunnel on you THEN RETRACTS IT then accuses me of a tunnel on him and only brings up 3 FRIGGIN POSTS as a "tunnel". sorry no dice, he tried to bs some read and got stomped.


With each post, Ritoky, you've just giving me more ammunition for your lynch.

So now you're going to try and pin LS on how he defines tunnel?

Why does this sound familiar? Oh wait! I know.

I was mafia godfather in Newbie LX and I successfully got him mislynched partially based on how LS defined tunnel (LS was VT). I took advantage of his incoherence.

On January 08 2015 05:45 Half the Sky wrote:
LS, well, deary me. I was 50/50 on this guy but now he looks worse. I looked at the exchange between him and Rasputin and aside from the whole blue role controversy I'm just not buying this:

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 11:16 LightningStrike wrote:
I thought that Shining didn't have a lot votes at the time and I tunneled to hard on TWW I'm sorry


As town, I don't know how not observing the votes near EoD would fly. He said he's tunnelled too hard on Waffle, so I decided to work backwards on read progression. Tunnelled? Really?

Going through LS's filter, he goes on from a scum read post on Shining to a vote on WW on page 17, 17 minutes after Rasputin votes him. In his filter, there is zero progression to WW up to the time he votes him. After his vote I see one repetition in his filter of why he voted but I don't see any followup questions, or him making a bigger case. Then he says he's tunnelled on him. I don't even. It just seems to me too convenient of a vote.

In contrast, Tubesock was actually tunnelled on WW and I could at least follow where he was coming from, why he asked the questions he did. In his filter there are 10+ posts with questions on WW and explanations on WW's read post. None of that from LS.


On January 08 2015 06:32 LightningStrike wrote:
I just tunelled to hard while I was worried about my mom but at least she is feeling much better now. I just couldn't concentrate at all at the time but WW was way more inactive in the thread that all I remember why I went after WW and also I was liking rsoultins post on why to vote WW too. I so lost right now to be honest with you like maybe one of my town reads is scum this game and I just denying it. I hope Day 2 gives me a fresh start on who is scum and who isn't.


And EVEN IN SPITE OF ME shooting him down on "tunnelling" his target, he STILL maintains he tunnelled in this game over a SINGLE post!!!! AS A BLOODY VT. I was mafia in that game.

And he's doing it again as VT? Not surprised.

I see you are doing just the same.

Congratulations Ritoky you know how to take advantage of LS!

If you're town right here, Ritoky, which I, and a few others remaining at this point all have a hard time believing, I think you ought to be the one that needs to re-orient yourself.

The Damdred/Breshke slot was just confirmed (flipped) scum.

Why don't you comment on both of Damdred and Breshke's filters and the way they tried to scumread LS, and particularly the way that Damdred tried to pin the scumslip on LS.

The fact that one person's filter is doing this is indicative, but two scummers' filters effectively saying the same thing....whereas a scum slip can be misused and misconstrued by the person using it, as Rasputin has already pointed out.

And like I said, Damdred tried to pin the so-called scum slip on LS, so there's already evidence of misuse of that scum slip.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 08:40 GMT
#3364
On February 20 2015 17:25 ritoky wrote:
Also if you look at your town reads there HtS, I think one of them had damdred as mafia in total.

Guess who did have damdred as mafia?

This guy.

Re-orient your reads quickly.


Just because a person is town does not mean they are correct. So what you have just said means nothing. Try harder.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 20 2015 08:48 GMT
#3365
On February 20 2015 17:20 ritoky wrote:
how about you address the fact that you used damdred's flip to try to call me mafia, yet I called breshke mafia since basically the start of the game and demonstrated the vote logic to show a damdred + LS team was very feasible last phase even before any of this stuff.

LS is scum, you need to get that through your head. BH is town you need to get that through your head. if you can't then you're probably scum too.


Damdred flipped scum and others will be using his filter to look for associative reads. Are you not reading the thread?

Yes, Ritoky, you can call any of your teammates mafia for later credit when they flip. I wasn't born yesterday. A few others had Breshke on the lynchables list for his lurking. Your point?

VCA is a great tool to use when you're town but scum are capable of misrepresenting that too.

You've been misrepresenting things all game.

LS sheeps votes a lot as town, so with a Damdred flip of course it's going to make any town you managed to pair off with him two days in a row look bad.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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