• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:04
CET 04:04
KST 12:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion6Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1279 users

VII Titanic Mini Mafia: I Have a Cunning Plan... - Page 131

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 129 130 131 132 133 219 Next
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2015 20:54 GMT
#2601
rayn, i think she's town
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:55 GMT
#2602
oh it was slam's post i interpreted as mine.
but anyways, there is no way you read that post in 5 minutes properly because it is impossible.

you can lynch me now but you are going down tomorrow.
there is no way smart people are not gonna look at that after i die.

so basically you can quit.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:56 GMT
#2603
On February 19 2015 05:54 IAmRobik wrote:
rayn, i think she's town
+ Show Spoiler +

if she is she is really bad at this game and should not call herself experienced.
table for two on a tv tray
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2015 20:57 GMT
#2604
On February 19 2015 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 05:54 IAmRobik wrote:
rayn, i think she's town
+ Show Spoiler +

if she is she is really bad at this game and should not call herself experienced.

+ Show Spoiler +
she's not experienced and she's meh at the game. why does this surprise you?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 18 2015 20:57 GMT
#2605
On February 19 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 05:46 Half the Sky wrote:
Rayn, keep digging that hole for yourself. I scumread you based on your gameplay from D1. You have given me zero reason for me to change my read on you. In fact the more you post on some of the others, the more convinced you are scum.

And once I've formed a read, I use meta to check not only myself but other people who are scumreading you. In fact I only checked your last game in Slytherin largely because of what Damdred said.

You showed already once how you tried to misrepresent me and you just keep doing it again.

Keep taking me and others out of context, you're doing a fine job of it.

Now everyone read how crap this post is please.

One question: Who in scum QT told you to antagonize me in order to get myself modkilled?

Antagonize?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:58 GMT
#2606
like srsly robert. whatever you think of my alignment in this game make sure you read that post over and over again on N2, and D3, and on and on.
table for two on a tv tray
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 18 2015 20:58 GMT
#2607
On February 19 2015 05:52 Alakaslam wrote:
[chupazi] hey so

BH what u think of rayn? [/chupazi]


I don't think he's a good lynch today. He's an okay lynch I guess. Like, I think he's reaaaaasonably likely to flip scum, but I'd give him another day to get himself shot, you know?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 18 2015 20:58 GMT
#2608
Oh I openly suxxu
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 18 2015 20:58 GMT
#2609
@Palmar What the hell? I am not saying much because 1) I am busy and 2) the thread is going my way. Why on earth would I be super active when we are lynching the guy I want lynched? It was even me who restarted the raynpelikoneet wagon. I'll be more active if you botch things up but I'm actually feeling pretty good about something (raynpelikoneet being scum) for the first time in this game.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 18 2015 20:59 GMT
#2610
On February 19 2015 05:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 05:52 Alakaslam wrote:
[chupazi] hey so

BH what u think of rayn? [/chupazi]


I don't think he's a good lynch today. He's an okay lynch I guess. Like, I think he's reaaaaasonably likely to flip scum, but I'd give him another day to get himself shot, you know?

You prefer VA?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 18 2015 20:59 GMT
#2611
On February 19 2015 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
VA - I played with him in NYE party mafia and Void. I have yet to play with him as scum. The information I got on his scum game was in an obs QT. His town game, he honestly does jack all. I don't know how else to describe it. In NYE, the first game I played with him, I scumread him based on doing nothing and not wanting to solve the game...IIRC, the only posts he made were that he was relying on blue roles, and didn't care for reads, or something. I incorrectly scumread him and pushed his lynch, others called me on it, - and he got lynched. Void - same deal. He did jack all D1 and most of D2. Only after I flipped scum D2, did he start doing work.

like, she literally quotes VA'S TOWN PLAY CORRECTLY -- which is also 100% he is doing in this game, but hey, her meta-read on VA is that VA is mafia. Good job, good job.


Here's an example where Rayn is pushing misinformation.

If you go back to where I was looking/checking into VA, I was disputing the call on VA being scum using meta from the games I've played with him. To confirm what I've been feeling, I looked into games where he was scum to see how much of that gameplay measured to his current gameplay and I did a compare and contrast.

On February 18 2015 23:32 Half the Sky wrote:
Well in general from what I'm seeing so far:

YOSO is a Ver game, which he's expressed preference for as it's a super low post count game. So I could see him post insane (in comparison) as either alignment. Key differences I'm seeing there is he's actually quoting people in making arguments and arguing why certain people are better lynches than others, just more substantial arguments in general than I'm used to seeing him do. Then he complains when he's putting in too much work.

Moved on to Guilty to remove that pro-Ver bias - might have to go to SMB mini and check that out too, but in guilty he's posting way more and his "reads" look again, more substantiated, posting style is different. Tried to do a day-by-day meta read, since most people defending him are based off a D1 jack all meta.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 09:39 Hapahauli wrote:
As for Vayne, I've posted stuff on him before.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=70#1397

Him representing himself as "helpful" early on, generally looking like he's trying hard, then leaving his vote on Damdred is pretty bad.


Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
VA So again, the heuristic for the most part goes, Lazy useless VA = town, tryhard VA = scum. He has muddled with this a little in a few later games but the most part I'm able to catch him out when it's needed. This time his town play seems to fit but I think as someone else may (or may not have?) pointed out, it looks as though he is actively and very obviously trying to muddle with his meta this time around by talking about himself and his activity:


That might be the key constrast here to read VA as town D1 which I did. For D2, most so far, he's done jack all. I guess the question now is whether people here think he's muddling his meta or if there's a possibility he does jack all as scum.


In a SEPARATE post I said, that at this time, I was not convinced that VA was scum. I was not buying BH's push on VA. That was my conclusion, not that VA was scum.

On February 18 2015 23:40 Half the Sky wrote:
At this point in time, though I have yet to go through BH's PBPA, I am not convinced VA is scum. Don't recall the substantial tryharding though I'm seeing in his scum games.


It is ironic that Rayn says I'm not reading the thread when he has done selective reading on three of his scumreads, myself being one of them.

This is also consistent with my using meta to check and confirm a read I had on VA as others weigh in.

So my stance on Rayn remains the same.

LYNCH
RAYN
WITH
FIRE
TONIGHT
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:59 GMT
#2612
On February 19 2015 05:57 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 19 2015 05:54 IAmRobik wrote:
rayn, i think she's town
+ Show Spoiler +

if she is she is really bad at this game and should not call herself experienced.

+ Show Spoiler +
she's not experienced and she's meh at the game. why does this surprise you?

+ Show Spoiler +
because she called herself "veteran" multiple times on D1....
table for two on a tv tray
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 18 2015 20:59 GMT
#2613
It's still not super clear to me why people think VA is town
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 18 2015 21:01 GMT
#2614
On February 19 2015 05:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 05:58 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 19 2015 05:52 Alakaslam wrote:
[chupazi] hey so

BH what u think of rayn? [/chupazi]


I don't think he's a good lynch today. He's an okay lynch I guess. Like, I think he's reaaaaasonably likely to flip scum, but I'd give him another day to get himself shot, you know?

You prefer VA?

Honestly? Yeah. Today's basically a clusterfuck, right? Well, this is a great time to lynch VA who will never be useful. Rayn might be angry and it might be the weekend or whatever lame excuse he or Palmar is using, but they have to shape up (also I'll note that Palmar's 'weekend' excuse is strange since it's wednesday/thursday right now). It's not the end of the world of Rayn gets lynched, but man, somehow VA is slipping by and I need to step up my game or it's on me when he wins in endgame
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 21:01 GMT
#2615
On February 19 2015 05:59 Blazinghand wrote:
It's still not super clear to me why people think VA is town

On February 18 2015 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because VA is the person i am best at reading in mafia.
I already told why he is town. It happens every fucking game. People lynch va because "he isn't doing shit".

On February 18 2015 22:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Basically va needs a mafia flip to play. He doesn't give any fucks about the game until then.

table for two on a tv tray
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 18 2015 21:02 GMT
#2616
Also I can't help but shake the feeling that rayn's the kinda dude who would fake anger as town. His obviously fake anger and AFKness probably indicate he's scum but he might be willing to do this as town, you know? In any case, like I said: if he gets lynched, whatever. I won't shed tears. I will msotly be upset that VA DIDN'T get lynched. Again. For no reason. At all.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 21:02 GMT
#2617
If you are going to lynch VA i am voting for myself over him.
table for two on a tv tray
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 18 2015 21:03 GMT
#2618
On February 19 2015 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 05:54 IAmRobik wrote:
rayn, i think she's town
+ Show Spoiler +

if she is she is really bad at this game and should not call herself experienced.


1 I never called myself experienced at this game (not in the vein of Palmar/Marv/HF etc)
2 I've never called myself skilled at this game either, in fact I've said several times early D1 I had dumb moments and I do make stupid errors in this game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 18 2015 21:03 GMT
#2619
On February 19 2015 06:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 05:59 Alakaslam wrote:
On February 19 2015 05:58 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 19 2015 05:52 Alakaslam wrote:
[chupazi] hey so

BH what u think of rayn? [/chupazi]


I don't think he's a good lynch today. He's an okay lynch I guess. Like, I think he's reaaaaasonably likely to flip scum, but I'd give him another day to get himself shot, you know?

You prefer VA?

Honestly? Yeah. Today's basically a clusterfuck, right? Well, this is a great time to lynch VA who will never be useful. Rayn might be angry and it might be the weekend or whatever lame excuse he or Palmar is using, but they have to shape up (also I'll note that Palmar's 'weekend' excuse is strange since it's wednesday/thursday right now). It's not the end of the world of Rayn gets lynched, but man, somehow VA is slipping by and I need to step up my game or it's on me when he wins in endgame

You are not reading the game. It's a good thing you're semi-modconfirmed (the game is basically invalid if you're mafia, so I just don't care about that option).
Computer says mafia
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 18 2015 21:03 GMT
#2620
On February 19 2015 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are going to lynch VA i am voting for myself over him.


oh, cause the red flip will make him good? huehuehuehuehue

seriously though dude unless you're linking me to a game where VA did this as town, to me, these are just words writ in water
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Prev 1 129 130 131 132 133 219 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 143
RuFF_SC2 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 785
Shuttle 594
actioN 537
NaDa 54
Noble 35
Dota 2
monkeys_forever118
NeuroSwarm59
LuMiX1
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King144
Other Games
tarik_tv17454
gofns10046
summit1g9748
JimRising 579
XaKoH 150
Maynarde122
ViBE43
minikerr34
KnowMe32
PiLiPiLi9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2020
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 85
• davetesta34
• Sammyuel 30
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Mapu11
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22019
Other Games
• Scarra2028
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 56m
Wardi Open
8h 56m
Monday Night Weeklies
13h 56m
OSC
1d 7h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Big Brain Bouts
4 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.