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On February 20 2015 09:43 Blazinghand wrote:
@FF Yeah.
I gotta admit, I am not on ritoky's level. Damn ritoky good catch. You have my bow. It's also worth noting that if, by some insane stretch, you are mafia (or actually plausibly, SK), you are still above my level because a play like this as scum would be brilliant.
also this post made me smile
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On February 25 2015 20:55 rsoultin wrote:
honestly I wanted a BH kill more than a superbia kill, but prp was kinda spooked by him for palmar
which I don't understand, cause sup was straight-up townreading him and actually working with me to "solve" the game, so i'm not sure why he was so threatening?
I just kinda let others do what they want too often I think
jat convinced me to shoot eden over confirmed town breshke the previous game. I just need to be more forceful about what I think the best play is I think.
yeah I am kinda with you on this point. like you had sway over superbia to some degree, or at least minimal influence, I think he would have been much easier for you guys to work with than BH who was basically only really siding with himself, me, and slam at that point.
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On February 25 2015 20:56 rsoultin wrote:that said, ritoky...so not apologizing for making your game unwinnable when you shot me 
then don't incidentally soft cop! jeez!
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On February 25 2015 21:01 rsoultin wrote:
lol I never softed cop
I claimed vt Day 1 -amused-
I don't remember where, but you had one read in the game that was like meh-leaning scum or something. then the next day you were like "this person is town jesus" and there was nothing I saw them do to deserve it, so I figured you were cop.
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On February 25 2015 21:01 rsoultin wrote:dude my choice night actions were kill bh rb ritoky ... lol >< /and/ I'd half-jokingly predicted i'd be shot before that sometimes being right just isn't as satisfying as you'd think
yeah I looked at the mafia qt, some good moments in there. palmar calling lots of ppl shit, damdred's only contribution being a soul read on me (fk u damd), and ur calling your own death.
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On February 25 2015 21:07 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2015 21:04 marvellosity wrote:On February 25 2015 21:01 Superbia wrote:
I wasn't really townreading prplhz when the wagon was on both him and LS. I felt too many townies were divided between the two wagon and I wasn't sure about either of them.
I paid too much respect to the opinions of people who put a lot of time into the game (including rso), and it really fucked up my d2 play (though my d1 play was quite shit as well). Next time I'm going to be adamant about my own opinion. Also, I'm going to pay more attention to rayn's reads if/after he's confirmed town. I'm not sure this is what you should be taking away really. It's good to listen to other people. Your problem would be (if I go by this paragraph alone) that you were putting faith in someone with a lot of posts and not correctly being suspicious of their motives. Listening to others is dandy, just make sure they're town first The problem was mostly that I was listening to people because I thought they had put a lot of time into the game, even though I was disagreeing with what they were saying. I agree that listening and cooperating with people is key to the game, but that time put into the game is a wrong metric to follow (it was mostly guilt that I had put less time into the game than others, which led me to pursue my own reads less because I felt it would be unfair).
Some people try harder as town, some people try harder as mafia. People's investment in the game should not be alignment indicative unless they have a very distinct meta that someone who has played lots with them can elaborate on and give reasonable evidence for. Also as town, err on the side of suspicion.
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On February 25 2015 21:14 Half the Sky wrote:
GGs everyone. WP town.
Get rekt scumteam.....especially you Ras-pew-tin hehe but seriously massive improved scumgame m'lady!
I'm sorry I was total shite this game.
GG WP Ritoky. I'm sorry (but not sorry) I tunnelled you all game.
Congrats again on getting married!
I mean, it was the right call...for a very bad reason initially, then a PoE reason. Right call, wrong reason; doesn't matter you still won 
Like if that game had any uncertainty at the point where you shifted from "he's scum cuz extra info" to "oh...he can't be scum, guess he sk!" I think I coulda flipped it, but my chances at winning had passed me by at that point.
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On February 26 2015 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 04:16 Blazinghand wrote:
rayn, robik, we won, no need to get angry jeez i am fucking mad for getting lynched for having almost perfect reads for like sixth time in my life. and you fuckfaces never learn.
isn't that more credit deserved to those who were anti-town and were capable of getting you out of the way early?
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On February 26 2015 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 06:00 ritoky wrote:On February 26 2015 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 26 2015 04:16 Blazinghand wrote:
rayn, robik, we won, no need to get angry jeez i am fucking mad for getting lynched for having almost perfect reads for like sixth time in my life. and you fuckfaces never learn. isn't that more credit deserved to those who were anti-town and were capable of getting you out of the way early? not really. it is a sign of bad or ignorant (which is bad anyways) town play.
Meh, I disagree. In this case your entire wagon was orchestrated by a conscious push from mafia (palmar and damdred) and someone who was mafia siding hard for the early game (HtS); and as a result of them forming that wagon it eventually came back them in the ass really hard. Idk I think your lynch was pretty dumb, but not that dumb knowing who the scum were.
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I mean your defense couldn't have been perfect....you got lynched.
I think in the game in the state it was in, there was no real established town leader and no real unified town reads who were vocal about a lynch target and gaining traction. You claiming cop like you did gave everyone who was unsure or looking for someone to sheep the easiest excuse in the world to slap a vote on you without hesitation....something about rayn yelling at me a long time ago for fake claiming as VT and deserving to get lynched for it.
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