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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 16:11 GMT
#2515
Fine. Solve this game by yourself then idiots. Not gonna post any more.
Mafia is prplhz, rsoultin, damdred and hts. (if hts is town then robik is scum). At least three of them are scum. Perhaps ritoky or maybe even palmar.

Mafia success = time used on it and i don't have much time during weeks. Get used to it fuckers. I have better things to do than to defend myself to non-existent cases which are based on nothing but my activity.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 16:22 GMT
#2516
For the record when i flip ask prplhz why his only fucking scumread for the last fucking year was town.
Maybe some bright guy will read his filter then and not call ME not trying to find mafia.
His only real reads throughout the game has been "kelsier is mafia" and "rayn is scum because idk why he is town".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 16:52 GMT
#2521
On February 19 2015 01:40 Blazinghand wrote:
The fact that Palmar Rayn and I are getting along so poorly means either we're COLLECTIVELY in an awful mood or there is scum amongst us. Rayn. What do you think

I don't know. I find it pissivle but highly unlike.
Like i TRIED when i had time. Palmar disn't, which is not alifnment indicative for him.
Then i haven't had time. Of course we are getting along poorly when palmar only calls me scum. What the fuck should i say? Also me and you don't usually get along well... and it doesn't help you a pushing a townie lynch.

For the rest of the thread ai am nit going to defend myself in any way because there is no case. I can give a read on everyone whwn i get home from work. So don't waste time asking me why i am not mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 18:20 GMT
#2526
On February 19 2015 02:01 Damdred wrote:
There is a case on you in fact rayn and it has little to do with the level of activity but rather the way you conduct yourself and the way your reads go is much more the focus I think.

Also VA rayn has kinda dialed scum back and has taken the Marv approach last time I saw him.

You don't even fucking know how my reads go becquse i can't quote posts on phone. And i am not stupid enough to change my reads "without reasoning" as mafia. No matter how busyy i am i never do that.

For the record you believed my explanations on why i am busy. Everything you have posted implies so. And you are pushing becquse i have not had time to explain myself properly (which is btw fucking implicative of me being TOWN).

And that's why you are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 18:36 GMT
#2530
On February 19 2015 03:25 Damdred wrote:
Of course I believe that you are busy in real life, you were busy in slythern to. You aren't BH I believe you.

However if you compare the most recent town game where you were also strapped for time you see such a huge difference in how you push people and what you do that yea there is something a lot different to the games.

Which is directy comparable to the fact i am NOT ABLE TO PLAY PROPERLY!!

Next time youre gonna call me mafia at least make up better feasons than my inactivity. You havent for once even tried to aks me why i think something of something.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 18:39 GMT
#2532
On February 19 2015 03:22 Blazinghand wrote:
If it makes you feel any better, rayn, your claims of IRL stuff have zero impact one way or the other on me.

How surprising.

I just posted it because robik asked.
Also because noone should ever try to meta me in any fucking way after this game. Ever. I'll policy voge anyone who ever does that 100% promised. True story.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 18:48 GMT
#2537
On February 19 2015 03:42 Palmar wrote:
Of the people pushing you rayn damdred is probably the towniest. If you can't even analyze your own wagon you are basically confirmed mafia

We'll see about that..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 18:54 GMT
#2543
On February 19 2015 03:45 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 19 2015 03:25 Damdred wrote:
Of course I believe that you are busy in real life, you were busy in slythern to. You aren't BH I believe you.

However if you compare the most recent town game where you were also strapped for time you see such a huge difference in how you push people and what you do that yea there is something a lot different to the games.

Which is directy comparable to the fact i am NOT ABLE TO PLAY PROPERLY!!

Next time youre gonna call me mafia at least make up better feasons than my inactivity. You havent for once even tried to aks me why i think something of something.


Honestly Rayn, your filter is there for everyone to read. I read it and I posted my conclusions from it, you were what looks like equally strapped for time in slythern for example but you made a much more concerted effort when you were in the thread.

Its not about inactivity at all, its how you use your time. And just reading your filter its not the scum hunting rayn that is normal even when you are strapped for time.

I had two strong scumreads when i left on D1.
Hts and kelsier. I stated my reasons on hts besides her claim (it's easy to deduce from my posting).i wanted palmar to comment on my kelsirr scumread before givinf my reasoning, which i did. I made town cases on a lot of people

Then rsoultin came in and the thread went to shit. Palmar didn't answr me so i stoooed giving any fucks for that irl day. Yeah. That was the day i was able to play this game properly.

If you can't tell that from my filter you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 19:11 GMT
#2544
On February 19 2015 03:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey so

I am still lost

Why is rayn scum? Short sweet and to the point

There is no reason i am scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 19:18 GMT
#2546
On February 19 2015 04:15 IAmRobik wrote:
YOUR'E NOT EVEN TRYING TO FUCKING SOLVE THE GAME RAYN.

I am. Ihave found many mafia. I am also not yet home.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 19:44 GMT
#2553
On February 19 2015 04:31 Palmar wrote:
If we get this right, team Palmar/Damdred is officially a thing.

well you 100% won't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 19:46 GMT
#2555
I am sorry to say this Palmar but you are fucking dumb if you are town in this game.
Why the fuck would you not try to solve this game with me instead of just making snarky crap posts towards me? Why? I just can't understand it in any way.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 19:47 GMT
#2556
Anyways i just got home and i got maybe two hours before i need to go to sleep as i gotta wake up at 4:30am.
So i am making that list post now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:41 GMT
#2585
Half the Sky - I am not even gonna talk about the claim because the reasoning she claimed was totally bullshit. Here:
Based on what marvellosity said in Horn (and he was town), you typically want to claim it as soon as you can.
I won't even go search because marv would NEVER EVER SAY THIS!
After (besides) that the first thing that bothered me was her meta on VA on D1, which was completely incorrect.
Second thing:
Also I don't like Robik's post about me because he's not reading and understanding why I'm asking the questions I am
Yeah well, noone did ever understand why you asked the questions you did. BECAUSE THERE WERE NEVER ANY CONCLUSIONS!!
Then here is the proof her "meta read" (see above) on VA is bullshit.
VA - I played with him in NYE party mafia and Void. I have yet to play with him as scum. The information I got on his scum game was in an obs QT. His town game, he honestly does jack all. I don't know how else to describe it. In NYE, the first game I played with him, I scumread him based on doing nothing and not wanting to solve the game...IIRC, the only posts he made were that he was relying on blue roles, and didn't care for reads, or something. I incorrectly scumread him and pushed his lynch, others called me on it, - and he got lynched. Void - same deal. He did jack all D1 and most of D2. Only after I flipped scum D2, did he start doing work.

like, she literally quotes VA'S TOWN PLAY CORRECTLY -- which is also 100% he is doing in this game, but hey, her meta-read on VA is that VA is mafia. Good job, good job.
After that she decides to (1) ignore my questions or (2) misrepresent the questions where she answers, like it literally did show she had not read the thread properly. I said that already on D1, so go fucking read as noone gave shit about it.
Then she makes a case on me:
[spoiler]
On February 15 2015 13:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Looking into some of Rayn's quotes after he questioned me on my reads, there are a few quotes of his that have me scumreading Rayn.

I have never played with him so I am disregarding meta.

Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 15 2015 00:35 Palmar wrote:
Why is robik mad at LS for being LS?

idk. doesn't make it any better considering the fact LS is town.


How does he know for a "fact that LS is town"? If he's town, he wouldn't know this for a fact.

Next quote: Possible buddying of Palmar? I don't understand as a veteran why he cannot figure out some of these players (other veterans) himself. I have heard in QTs he's a good player (correct me if I'm wrong on this)

Now I know BH has been around, I don't know who he means by Robert, and it would appear prplhz has also been around TL a bit. It seems like it could be a way to use an incorrect Palmar read for a potential mafia agenda.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like what i basically want to do Palmar, is to figure out blazinghand, robert, and wirh your help prplhz. If we can fiure out those players alignments on D1 the game becomes really OP for the town.


I also read further on the post that Rasputin mentioned on the flip-flop. I don't understand why he'd ask Palmar for help on reading someone and then through a single post, he not only is confident enough to agree with someone he previously might have needed help reading but then retracts someone he was willing to work with.

Additionally I got a very bad vibe from this as well:

Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Half the Sky i am really puzzled about the fact we have an argument going on and instead of arguing with me you decide to comment on other ppl's posts. And this is not even the first time you have done so.


Like he's trying to push me when I'd already answered his questions. Looking at the timestamps there were 12 minutes in between I answered his last question and when he said that, so it's not like he missed my questions. It seems like he's trying to reach to call me scum based on this.

(1) BBBBBBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. roflskates forever. i called someone town she is scumreading me for it?
(2) Yeah why would i ask Palmar's help in reading someone he is really good at reading and i am not? I FUCKING WONDER? Can't she connect the dots? And how the fuck does that make me mafia?
(3) Yeah well the bolded part is 100% true. So WHAT? Her not answering me and instead talking about something else (=seems like dodging the questions) is ME being scummy? Right.
Then there is this post:
On February 16 2015 04:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 04:05 Blazinghand wrote:
So, just to be clear, nobody here actually thinks Vayne is useful. All you think is that he has a meta of not playing during D1 so he should be allowed to live. Well, there's no argument I can make against that. Follow the RNG for glory, or be left behind in the darkness.


Just saw this.

Where are your reads on others? Or if you live to D2 and beyond are you going to keep RNGing people?

Step it up Blazinghand. Now.

##unvote
##vote Blazinghand


She literally votes for BH because BH could not make an argument against VA other than RNG.
But HEY, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT! THAT IS FUCKING WHAT I SAID ABOUT 1 HOUR AGO! Yet before this vote there is this:
On February 16 2015 03:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Based on the points I'd made before:

##vote Rayn


seriously? Fucking seriously? and noone gives any shit about this?

Then HtS scumreads prplhz. But only "for a bit". Then her D2 case on me is a META case based on how i played in Slytherin!!!!!! Like remember this?
I have never played with him so I am disregarding meta.

Apparently it doesn't matter any more. But hey, what do i know, i am just another scum at all for you fuckers. For the record i don't give any fucks about the case on FF because it's is based on "not reading well" and "misrepresenting things" which she has been doing all game long, also see my read on FF.

ritoky - I am honest, i can't remember anything ritoky said on D1. This morning i read his filter and his filter from the tinyhunt game and then i remembered it. ritoky looks fucking town when he is mafia. When he isn't, he doesn't look town because he apparently puts less effort to the game when he is town than when he is scum. Which makes me MEHHHHH because his filter is still really terrible. i don't know, i'd say leaning town 60%.

VayneAuthority - i have everything i have to say about him.

IAmRobik - D1 looked townie, D2 looks fucking terrible. He isn't yelling "LS IS MAFIA" like he did on N1. He isn't doing anything. tbh i haven't paid much attention on him because he says dumb stuff all the time as town and i can't figure out him yet. Definitely scum if hts is town though. He had a case on hts on D1, yet never pushed it. Now he calls her town. I don't know, it just doesn't make any sense at all. None. But it's not m/m.

rsoultin - mafia. made the thread go shit on D1 when there was ACTUALLY good conversations going on. Unremembered on anything. Like she isn't pushing anything. She is just "there" saying stuff.

And then, look at this:
In her reads VA is null. I am leaning scum (because of how i play as town -- as per her definition lol ).
Then BH makes his D2 caswe on VA, here is rsoultin's answer:
On February 18 2015 08:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
PbP Analysis of VA filter

D1 start
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757535 meaningless
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757571 unexplained townread on HTS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757607 Talks about when he's available
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757777 claims VT again
10 hour gap
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23760183 soft townread on KSC
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23760206 self-meta "I start off slow as town"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23760325 soft defense of hts
10 hour gap
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23762334 soft attack on BH
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23762365 backtrack of soft attack
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23765551 scumreads on BH, KSC, Breshke, no explanation
18 hour gap
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23765795 votes BH before claim
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23765926 votes Breshke after claim
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23765967 waffling
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23765972 soft attack on rayn or palmar, no evidence
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23766344 votes BH after TP claim
more vague reads
meta scumread BH http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23767577
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23770978 restartes BH scumread
some trolling
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23773664 votes me D1 start
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23773753 discounts flavor
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23773754 calls LS blatant mafia, still voting me
more trolling

None of his posts anywhere are more than like, 3 or 4 lines. The vast majority are 1 line or 1 sentence.

He has done nothing and posted no real cases and is trolling

this guy is scum, let's lynch him?


Talk to me about anyone but VA (or you) and I will happily vote him with you. How's that for incentive?

On February 18 2015 08:41 rsoultin wrote:
##unvote
##vote: VA


I agree that rayn looks scummy. Did not appreciate all the mafia/sk claims he was doing last night either -_-

TADAAA!

not even going to write why this is scummy....

[b]LightningStrike - definitely town.is interested in finding mafia in his own way which -- i am sorry -- i don't think is very good. like he is literally trying to make reads on what people say. it would be retarded for him - -as mafia -- to make such off a mess out of me trolling on N1 with my mafia claim because he would know i am not mafia. I think he was genuinely confused and town. period.

Palmar -- meh, idk. He looks fine but there are these things that bother me:
- his read on prplhz, i don't think he should read him as town.
- him calling damdred town.
- him pushing me and not focusing onto anything else while i was not even posting
meh.. I JUST DON'T KNOW!!! fuck.

Alakaslam - i am just gonna go say town because i have no clue what he is doing and he isn't saying bad stuff.

prplhz - i made my case already. Hasn't said anything on D2 except "is there a reason rayn is town. Oh, he is scum kthxbye". awful. Has no intention to solve this game. Playing to "not be the scummiest person and to not get lynched", clearly. The ONLY good post he had in this game was the post about Palmar on D1, then nothing. No fucking real follow up or anything.

[b]Blazinghand - confirmed town which i hate because he has no incentive to solve this game either.

Superbia - confirmed town which i hate because he has no incentive to solve this game either.
Damdred - scum because he makes a shit read on me. that read is literally shit. just read it. i am tired of writing so just read his filter, read the original reason he is voting for me, then read our conversation. It does not add up in any level. mafiamafiamafia!!

Fecalfeast -- town because of dick move analysis. If FF said this:
On February 18 2015 08:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Also rsoultin sheep me on HTS's case on FF please baby girl?

If I flip town, promise me you will change your signature to "League of Legends is for noobs, also FecalFeast is the best mafia player ever" for a week.

.. i will despise him.

So yeah there you go.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:51 GMT
#2596
On February 19 2015 05:46 Half the Sky wrote:
Rayn, keep digging that hole for yourself. I scumread you based on your gameplay from D1. You have given me zero reason for me to change my read on you. In fact the more you post on some of the others, the more convinced you are scum.

And once I've formed a read, I use meta to check not only myself but other people who are scumreading you. In fact I only checked your last game in Slytherin largely because of what Damdred said.

You showed already once how you tried to misrepresent me and you just keep doing it again.

Keep taking me and others out of context, you're doing a fine job of it.

Now everyone read how crap this post is please.

One question: Who in scum QT told you to antagonize me in order to get myself modkilled?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:52 GMT
#2598
YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ MY POST HTS!
THERE IS LITERALLY NO WAY YOU READ THAT POST WITH THOUGHT IN 0-1 MINUTES!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:53 GMT
#2599
fuck it.
##unvote
##vote Half the sky

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:55 GMT
#2602
oh it was slam's post i interpreted as mine.
but anyways, there is no way you read that post in 5 minutes properly because it is impossible.

you can lynch me now but you are going down tomorrow.
there is no way smart people are not gonna look at that after i die.

so basically you can quit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:56 GMT
#2603
On February 19 2015 05:54 IAmRobik wrote:
rayn, i think she's town
+ Show Spoiler +

if she is she is really bad at this game and should not call herself experienced.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 18 2015 20:58 GMT
#2606
like srsly robert. whatever you think of my alignment in this game make sure you read that post over and over again on N2, and D3, and on and on.
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