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On February 20 2015 12:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do you play for fun or do you hear
"Ok turn 1, I'll play a plains, sol ring, lightning greaves, mox opal, tap the mox opal for white and play serra ascendant, attach the greaves and swing for 30" in your nightmares like me?
Nah. Our playgroup is pretty chill and casual. Though we do all run sol ring. Usually the first 5 turns are spend playing lands. We also mostly play multiplayer.
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3.5 hours for 3 player multiplayer is dumb as fuck though.
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I was planning to make a huge and funny post, but I'm going to keep it short and sweet. I'm not sure what to think about the possible slip from LS caught by ritoky, it kind of messes up the circles in my head.
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On February 20 2015 12:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Make your post anyway. I'm still on the fence about you as the SK
Yeah, no shit. I'm still deciding on my circles atm. D/w, you're on the townie side.
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Actually a LS/HtS team makes sense since I'm reading a shitload of other people town.
BH asked earlier what I thought about Palmar. He's active and mirroring some/most of my thoughts. That being said, I feel like he's somewhat different from the last I played with him in which we were both town (PYP). Can't really explain it well. He might be mafia playing very well (fear lyncherino).
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The problem is that I think there's a mafia between HtS and RSO. I had mafia and town tells on either of them. I'm not sure which one it is.
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Town:
- BH
- ritoky
- Robik
- FF
- VA (literally sheeping this read)
SK:
- Damdred
Which leaves:
- HtS
- rsoultin
- LS
- Palmar
- Slam
- prplhz
So HtS made a case earlier on FF which she then easily abandoned to sheep a case on Rayn. I don't believe a townie would put so much time/energy into a case on someone just to easily abandon it like she did. But on the other hand she has put a lot of time into the game. Mafia pile bc yolo.
RSO has seemed paranoid and active as well. I called her out for afking during the EoD1 crucial time, in which a VT claimed cop and got lynched. This was exceptionally scummy, but her play otherwise has been fine. Town pile because her thought process makes sense, I guess.
LS first seemed like mafia, but people defended him and called him town. His filter seems way different compared to his mafia filter, though it was a long time ago. The slip is idk. I prefer not to base my reads on those, since it can be interpreted in several ways (maybe being dumb since it's 5 am). Town after all I guess. Gotta stick to those god-meta-reads.
Palmar seems town but a bit different for some reason. It seems like he's leading and being loud, but the presence doesn't seem to be completely there for some reason. It may just be my disconnect with the game. Maybe town maybe good mafia.
Slam seems different from PYP game. No interactivity with town. Does his own thing. Slam is mafia.
prplhz is wat. Mafia.
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So a few things for town:
Ritoky is town because he seems to be genuinely paying attention. Also he seemed town d1.
Robik seems angry and therefore. Honestly I came to EoN to call him scum but I read his filter and it seems townie. Especially compared to PYP, where he was scum. Might be underestimating his scum play. But I don't have a lot of time.
FF I read as PR/Mafia early on. Reread his filter and he seemed town. I kind of have a town soulread on FF which has not come to fruition this game. Gut says he might be mafia, head says he's town. Sticking to head on this one.
VA is called town by people who claim to read him. I read his d1 filter and seemed to agree with almost everything he said, which is why I read him town independently. I'm not sure why he's been very lurky.
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For tomorrow:
Revisit the following:
- The BH/TP claim debacle. I have wanted to look more into this and see how people interact. Expect scum to be not very loud but willing to join the wagon on BH. They will likely have no new input on the wagon.
- The liancourt lynch. Liancourt claimed cop at the EoD, while he was VT. Look at the people who interacted with this lynch and how.
- The wagon switch from FF to rayn. The ease with which this happened and with which the wagons were formed makes it feel like it went from a town to a town wagon. Look at the people who were happy with sheeping the votes.
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I honestly have to apologize to town, especially if I die tonight. I have wanted to put more time into this game but constraints and laziness have kept me from doing so. I feel like I could've guided both lynches (especially d2) more, possibly hitting scum. My performance has been severely lackluster and, with some reservation, will promise to lead this game to (town) victory shall I survive the night.
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On February 20 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 13:06 Superbia wrote:
So a few things for town:
Ritoky is town because he seems to be genuinely paying attention. Also he seemed town d1.
Robik seems angry and therefore. Honestly I came to EoN to call him scum but I read his filter and it seems townie. Especially compared to PYP, where he was scum. Might be underestimating his scum play. But I don't have a lot of time.
FF I read as PR/Mafia early on. Reread his filter and he seemed town. I kind of have a town soulread on FF which has not come to fruition this game. Gut says he might be mafia, head says he's town. Sticking to head on this one.
VA is called town by people who claim to read him. I read his d1 filter and seemed to agree with almost everything he said, which is why I read him town independently. I'm not sure why he's been very lurky. Looks like probably our biggest disconnect is ritoky. He also seems to be your strongest townread. Why am I wrong on him?
He's not really my strongest town-read per say. I read him town d1 because he seemed different from when I was mafia with him. I feel like he's more salty when he's mafia, he hasn't been this game. The fact that he pinged out LS on the HtS thing makes it feel like he's paying attention to the game. His lack of presence on d2 is not alignment indicative to me.
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I have also done 0 vote analysis, which is dumb.
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On February 20 2015 13:17 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote:
Looks like probably our biggest disconnect is ritoky. He also seems to be your strongest townread. Why am I wrong on him? Good morning. And Rasputin, it's not just you. Why do you think I'm tallying people's scumteams? We're in mylo and the BS I'm seeing from some people here (notably Ritoky and Blazinghand) tonight is borderline hilarious. Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 00:45 Half the Sky wrote:
Updated
MYLO scumteams by player (number in parenthesis is the page number they called out that given scumteam)
Palmar (154)
FF, Ritoky, VA, prplhz
Rsoultin (153)
prplhz, Ritoky, BH, Super
5th: Slam/HTS/Robik/Damdred
VA (155)
LS, Ritoky, prplhz, Breshke (until rep)
Robik as SK maybe Damdred
HTS (155)
Ritoky, FF, Blazinghand, prphlz
5th: Robik or someone from my tinfoil category
Robik (151, 153)
LS, Blazinghand, Rasputin, TBD
LS (155)
Ritoky, VA, Robik, Alakaslam, prplhz How many people are scumreading Ritoky again? Quite a few people. There's a reason for that.
What's your reason?
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Like the amount of people scum reading Ritoky has nothing to do with his alignment. A lot of people were scum-reading Rayn, a lot of people were scum-reading lian. You can't use that metric as an excuse to read someone scum.
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In fact, HtS, who on that list-list are you scum-reading?
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I'll re-read that tomorrow if I'm still alive, and would urge town to do the same if I die. My circles remain the same if I die. I'm awaiting the night flip and then I'll go to sleep (irony).
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Also the fact that prplhz is at the end of many people's lists is somewhat intriguing.
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On February 20 2015 13:27 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 13:21 Superbia wrote:
In fact, HtS, who on that list-list are you scum-reading? "list-list" as in my list or Rasputin's? We have Ritoky and prplhz in common as scumreads if you mean the latter.
I was asking for your list. Then I realized it was already on the list-list.
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red = PR this game. FecalNoob.
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On February 20 2015 13:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 13:39 Superbia wrote:
Also the fact that prplhz is at the end of many people's lists is somewhat intriguing. Elaborate?
I feel like there has been no pressure on him whatsoever this game. Easy pressure point for scum. Especially since low post-count would imply likely PR if he's town.
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