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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 09 2015 18:44 GMT
#941
I'm pretty sure geript doesn't actually care about what I'm saying to him.

Wharvez.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 09 2015 18:44 GMT
#942
WHERE THE FUCK DOES OBI CALL KEIRATHI TOWN GERIPT`?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 09 2015 18:44 GMT
#943
Rayn why do I keep getting tunneled by jubjubs?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 09 2015 18:45 GMT
#944
bcz they are bad or scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 09 2015 18:48 GMT
#945
On February 09 2015 05:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I said I don't like the Kier wagon. I've even went out and hard defended him. How is that not a read?

I'm not even the only person that had the same issue with your list post. Why am I your current focus?


I fact Cava, explain the first part of your post here.
You DID in fact have a townread ok Keirathi?
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 18:48 GMT
#946
On February 10 2015 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 03:30 geript wrote:

OWS is still a much, much better lynch. Tl;dr edition--
1. Has no reasons for his vote
2. Votes for a guy while trying to lynch someone else
3. Reasons for wanting to vote someone else are the worst made up shit ever
4. Is the most useless poster ever
5. Magical "townread" (which isn't really a townread) on Keir because the reasons for pushing him were bad/lame



First of all your #1 cannot be true because your #3 argues otherwise.
I don't think #2 is true but in case i have missed something feel free to show me what have i missed.
#3 doesn't necessarily make anyone mafia
#4 doesn't necessarily make anyone mafia
#5 he has never had a town read on Keirathi afaik, his reasons for not voting for Keirathi i can understand from town perspective. Like this is the only thing i got from your case and you TOTALLY overplayed how "scummy" this is. Because it isn't.


On February 09 2015 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##vote lian

Would also be willing to wagon geript for his list post. He has 4 people in his questionable pile in yet questions none of them and seems to be perfectly fine with the players giving reads he thinks are unacceptable. There's no way for him to think that all 4 of those players are mafia, in yet he doesn't bother to consult any of them or sort any of it out despite already having two people in his scumlist.

1. No reasons for voting for lian. Like his "reason" for voting lian is apparently this:
On February 09 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I have completely forgotten that lian was in this game.

So he's voting for the guy that he forgot was in the game over someone he has a scumread on...
2. He's fucking voting Lian while wanting to lynch me. He has magically the worst god awful reasons for voting me AND THEN IS STILL VOTING FOR THE GUY WHO HE FUCKING FORGOT WAS IN THE GODDAMN GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3. The reasons are fucking trash tier. Just like his reads. Sure it doesn't make him mafia, but when combined with the other points it sure fucking does.
4. Yes, yes,
5. Later on he fucking explains that. He explains how a bad case on someone make him think they're town and therefore doesn't want to lynch them. Read his fucking goddamn fucking filter rayn. like he's fucking goddamn fucking fuckity fuck mafia. Like I'm literally getting cancer just fucking reading his posts that's how mafia he is.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 09 2015 18:48 GMT
#947
On February 10 2015 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker you should vote for Keirathi if you are town.
go read my case.


Im going to reread all cases. But when you were gone he actually tried to solve the game with some original ideas so I donno what your talking about him doing nothing. You are my strongest town read and you seem convinced so ill give it alot more thought
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 09 2015 18:49 GMT
#948
shh geript wait a sec. I wanna talk to Cava now for a second.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 09 2015 18:50 GMT
#949
I didn't like the wagon on him at the time and I argued against it.

That's how the entirely of that interaction boils down. Townreading Keirathi/not townreading Keirathi are completely irrelevant. I could've had a red check on him and it wouldn't have affected my posts in regards to the pushes on him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 09 2015 18:51 GMT
#950
On February 09 2015 05:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:56 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:48 geript wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:31 geript wrote:
On February 08 2015 10:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't feel like your point on his opening post was one I would follow: I just don't see the value in trying to lynch someone for goofing off at the beginning of the game. I feel like he's taking a bunch of unnecessary heat in terms of how people are jumping on him (why aren't you doing anything, how can I townread you if you're not doing anything, etc etc) and I don't really see how that can be held against him.

I think the pressure on Keirathi is somewhat unwarranted. I've been in the same spot as him multiple times and I can see the same kind of thing happening to him right now.

(I'm aware that there are other points against him out there supposedly, but I didn't think highly of them either.)

This post is as far from a townread on Keir as anything could be. This is not a townread on Keir and it's the closest you have in your meta. Essentially you're saying, "the reasons for pushing/wagoning him are bad." Some of the reasons are (overly defensive) and some of them aren't (I'm clearly town why aren't you reading me that way vs how could I read you as clearly town). Overall, though, the points against are semi-compelling; there are reasons to townread him for completely separate reasons. You don't get there anywhere in your filter. Looking elsewhere and saying some of the pressure is unwarranted isn't a townread. Bye bye scum. You done fucked up. Now you die.


I don't understand the point on my meta.
I don't like lynching people for bad reasons and, if the reasons are bad, it makes me believe that the lynch is a bad lynch. How is that not a townread or any other kind of read, for that matter?
I don't see how you thinking Keirathi is town should have any impact on my read on you.

Bad reasons = bad lynch? WTF? Seriously. Bad reasons are bad reasons. The number of times I've seen mafia lynched for god awful reasons I can't even remember. Like, "oh X person clearly just told his mafia teammates to bus him so let's lynch him." No. "X person didn't post within the first 5 minutes of a game (when X person was clearly asleep). Let's lynch them." No. Just like bad reasons don't make someone mafia, they don't make someone town. Like that's complete bullshit. Please continue to lie and bullshit around.


I don't think about the game the same way you do.

I never fault people for thinking about the game differently from me. Never is. You're literally just spewing bullshit that makes absolutely zero sense. These are things that you are reasonable enough to know are bullshit. How does me having 6 people in my "mafia circle" in any way make any sense if I'm mafia? Especially, when I've flat out stated why I can be wrong on multiples. Especially when I've pointed out why I think each of those people are mafia. Especially when I've pointed out why each of those people are questionable? How does me calling every idiot who's made a god awful idiotic read mafia make any sense as any alignment? Like clearly not every idiot can be mafia; clearly not every idiotic read can come from mafia. You're literally voting for someone who according to your filter is forgettable and meh while saying X other person who has too many people and can't think they're all mafia is probably mafia make any sense?

You haven't gotten to a townread on Keir and have just essentially ignored the wagon for godawful and likely made up reasons. You've voted for someone who is lynchbait at best. You're trying to mafia read the most clearly obviously towny motherfucker from his first fucking post for fucking terrible reasons. You know who does that shit? Mafia. Because they don't fucking know how to fucking read anyone because they're not fucking town.


The examples you've provided aren't the same thing I'm talking about either. Both of yours are one-liners that nobody will ever take seriously, and even then, they're in a vacuum: who is pushing them and why? What kinds of players are pushing him?

I'm looking at the game as a whole and seeing if Keirathi's lynch makes sense. It looked like a bunch of people were jumping on him over little based on things that don't really warrant a lynch and I don't want to lynch him. I think it's far more likely that he's town based off of this nonsensical push.

That, and the rest of his filter looks kind of okay. Scumhunting and such.


I explained my read here, btw.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 09 2015 18:51 GMT
#951
On February 10 2015 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't like the wagon on him at the time and I argued against it.

That's how the entirely of that interaction boils down. Townreading Keirathi/not townreading Keirathi are completely irrelevant. I could've had a red check on him and it wouldn't have affected my posts in regards to the pushes on him.

It is not irrelevant. You literally said "i even went on hard defending him, does that not look like a read to you?"
So did you or did you not have a townread on him at that point?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 09 2015 18:53 GMT
#952
On February 10 2015 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't like the wagon on him at the time and I argued against it.

That's how the entirely of that interaction boils down. Townreading Keirathi/not townreading Keirathi are completely irrelevant. I could've had a red check on him and it wouldn't have affected my posts in regards to the pushes on him.

It is not irrelevant. You literally said "i even went on hard defending him, does that not look like a read to you?"
So did you or did you not have a townread on him at that point?


Read above.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 09 2015 18:56 GMT
#953
meh i misread one of Obi's posts.
townread stands.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 09 2015 18:56 GMT
#954
You see the townread on Keir both exists and doesn't exist at the same time. It's like Schrodinger's cat.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 09 2015 18:57 GMT
#955
geript why would mafia!Cava make a case on you and vote for Lian in the same post?
Like, that's fucking terrible scumplay. He actually votes for his "scumreads" as scum and doesn't contradict himself like that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 09 2015 18:58 GMT
#956
On February 10 2015 03:56 geript wrote:
You see the townread on Keir both exists and doesn't exist at the same time. It's like Schrodinger's cat.

no it literally just exists. he states so multiple times.
i read one of his posts as "i don't actually know if Keirathi is mafia or town" but i misread it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 09 2015 18:59 GMT
#957
I don't even see how I contradicted myself. I've given like two reasons for voting lian and one for voting geript.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 09 2015 19:00 GMT
#958
Like what is the fucking point of attacking one of the strongest townies in the game (assuming you are town and Cava is scum like you suggest) and then just yolovote someone else in the same fucking post?

Don't you think that would obviously shine through. I don't think he is that stupid. I think he just had a brainfart.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 09 2015 19:00 GMT
#959
On February 10 2015 03:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't even see how I contradicted myself. I've given like two reasons for voting lian and one for voting geript.

Well you literally made a case on geript in the post where you vote for lian... That was not a good post tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 09 2015 19:01 GMT
#960
I didn't yolo vote though...
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