On February 10 2015 03:12 Damdred wrote:
I really hate the vote count, I have a town read on everyone on Gobbles and Keirathis wagon though I just hate how mafia can hammer whoever they want...

Same.

I'll be able to post properly in a little bit.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 18:23 GMT

#918

I have 0 interest in this LS pressure.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 18:34 GMT

#932

1) I gave reasons for my vote.
2) I wanted to lynch both of you at the time. This should be a non-issue.
3) Several people have stated the exact same issue with you as me.
4) Sure buddy.
5) I explained this multiple times.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 18:44 GMT

#941

I'm pretty sure geript doesn't actually care about what I'm saying to him.

Wharvez.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 18:44 GMT

#943

Rayn why do I keep getting tunneled by jubjubs?

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 18:50 GMT

#949

I didn't like the wagon on him at the time and I argued against it.

That's how the entirely of that interaction boils down. Townreading Keirathi/not townreading Keirathi are completely irrelevant. I could've had a red check on him and it wouldn't have affected my posts in regards to the pushes on him.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 18:51 GMT

#950

On February 09 2015 05:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

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On February 09 2015 05:56 geript wrote:

On February 09 2015 05:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

On February 09 2015 05:48 geript wrote:

On February 09 2015 05:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

On February 09 2015 05:31 geript wrote:

On February 08 2015 10:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't feel like your point on his opening post was one I would follow: I just don't see the value in trying to lynch someone for goofing off at the beginning of the game. I feel like he's taking a bunch of unnecessary heat in terms of how people are jumping on him (why aren't you doing anything, how can I townread you if you're not doing anything, etc etc) and I don't really see how that can be held against him.

I think the pressure on Keirathi is somewhat unwarranted. I've been in the same spot as him multiple times and I can see the same kind of thing happening to him right now.

(I'm aware that there are other points against him out there supposedly, but I didn't think highly of them either.)

This post is as far from a townread on Keir as anything could be. This is not a townread on Keir and it's the closest you have in your meta. Essentially you're saying, "the reasons for pushing/wagoning him are bad." Some of the reasons are (overly defensive) and some of them aren't (I'm clearly town why aren't you reading me that way vs how could I read you as clearly town). Overall, though, the points against are semi-compelling; there are reasons to townread him for completely separate reasons. You don't get there anywhere in your filter. Looking elsewhere and saying some of the pressure is unwarranted isn't a townread. Bye bye scum. You done fucked up. Now you die.

I don't understand the point on my meta.
I don't like lynching people for bad reasons and, if the reasons are bad, it makes me believe that the lynch is a bad lynch. How is that not a townread or any other kind of read, for that matter?
I don't see how you thinking Keirathi is town should have any impact on my read on you.

Bad reasons = bad lynch? WTF? Seriously. Bad reasons are bad reasons. The number of times I've seen mafia lynched for god awful reasons I can't even remember. Like, "oh X person clearly just told his mafia teammates to bus him so let's lynch him." No. "X person didn't post within the first 5 minutes of a game (when X person was clearly asleep). Let's lynch them." No. Just like bad reasons don't make someone mafia, they don't make someone town. Like that's complete bullshit. Please continue to lie and bullshit around.

I don't think about the game the same way you do.

I never fault people for thinking about the game differently from me. Never is. You're literally just spewing bullshit that makes absolutely zero sense. These are things that you are reasonable enough to know are bullshit. How does me having 6 people in my "mafia circle" in any way make any sense if I'm mafia? Especially, when I've flat out stated why I can be wrong on multiples. Especially when I've pointed out why I think each of those people are mafia. Especially when I've pointed out why each of those people are questionable? How does me calling every idiot who's made a god awful idiotic read mafia make any sense as any alignment? Like clearly not every idiot can be mafia; clearly not every idiotic read can come from mafia. You're literally voting for someone who according to your filter is forgettable and meh while saying X other person who has too many people and can't think they're all mafia is probably mafia make any sense?

You haven't gotten to a townread on Keir and have just essentially ignored the wagon for godawful and likely made up reasons. You've voted for someone who is lynchbait at best. You're trying to mafia read the most clearly obviously towny motherfucker from his first fucking post for fucking terrible reasons. You know who does that shit? Mafia. Because they don't fucking know how to fucking read anyone because they're not fucking town.

The examples you've provided aren't the same thing I'm talking about either. Both of yours are one-liners that nobody will ever take seriously, and even then, they're in a vacuum: who is pushing them and why? What kinds of players are pushing him?

I'm looking at the game as a whole and seeing if Keirathi's lynch makes sense. It looked like a bunch of people were jumping on him over little based on things that don't really warrant a lynch and I don't want to lynch him. I think it's far more likely that he's town based off of this nonsensical push.

That, and the rest of his filter looks kind of okay. Scumhunting and such.

I explained my read here, btw.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 18:53 GMT

#952

On February 10 2015 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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It is not irrelevant. You literally said "i even went on hard defending him, does that not look like a read to you?"
So did you or did you not have a townread on him at that point?

Read above.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 18:59 GMT

#957

I don't even see how I contradicted myself. I've given like two reasons for voting lian and one for voting geript.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 19:01 GMT

#960

I didn't yolo vote though...

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 19:01 GMT

#961

On February 10 2015 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Well you literally made a case on geript in the post where you vote for lian... That was not a good post tbh.

I probably should've been clearer but meh. I had reasons.

/shrug

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 19:07 GMT

#963

Oh for fuck's sake.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 19:09 GMT

#967

Onegu wants both me and GD dead despite me voting GD.

And you think that's totally okay.

Coolio.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 19:11 GMT

#969

On February 10 2015 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Onegu is town though. There is not a wall of excuses where he was for the last 100 days.

Rofl. Best townread NA.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 19:16 GMT

#977

On February 10 2015 04:14 geript wrote:

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Yes, please strawman my argument down to "OWS wants 2 people dead which makes him mafia." That's clearly the point I was making. Like that's totally not a complete fucking misrepresentation of every fucking point I've made.

I can just call it stupid like everyone else is doing.

That seems to be working pretty well for me and I'm going to keep doing that.

ObiWanShinobi

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February 09 2015 19:23 GMT

#989

On February 10 2015 04:21 geript wrote:

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This is literally all he's fucking doing. OWS is here and not doing anything other than call the push on him stupid and completely misrepresenting the case and points on him and you fuckwits are calling him town. Like seriously people how the fuck do you not want to lynch this guy.

Also commenting on the main wagons.

Which you keep pushing me for, after saying that I'm not doing anything.

Sooooooo idk.