Horn of Africa Mini Mafia

On February 04 2015 03:27 Eden1892 wrote:

Unlikely given we have 13 players, but I could see it going to like... 150-200

On February 04 2015 09:40 Damdred wrote:
This is hellish hour into game. Not enjoyable but this will be my first d1 lynch XD

Lynch Sl and batsnacks going forward.

On February 04 2015 09:45 Damdred wrote:
Cause he's a Miller and marv can't be lazy but he sounds happy

On February 04 2015 09:46 Damdred wrote:
Marv sounds happy so he's town. Bit don't let him be terrible confirmed town when I die and make him do things

On February 04 2015 09:49 Damdred wrote:
I'm just stopping posting while I'm at work because trying to do to many things

On February 04 2015 10:13 sicklucker wrote:
Is there another game going on that I can register and roll mafia? Im really pissed that people dont think I played well when I played so well that I didnt have to do anything passed day2. It was like "you didnt do anything jat carried" Yes I didnt do anything because I was already winning the game 10/10 times and jat had to "carry me" because everyone thought he was scum.

Its like the person who had to try less played better imo. Ill never talk about this again but jats msg pissed me off

On February 04 2015 10:21 Breshke wrote:
I'm in a weird spot I think eden marv and palmar are all town but still feel hesitant to join the damdred wagon.

On February 04 2015 10:25 Breshke wrote:


Why do i think they are town or why am i ehsitant to join the damdred wagon?

On February 04 2015 10:37 Damdred wrote:
This is stupid beyond anything. Rs is mafia.

I can't believe you think this is my Scum game hf...

On February 04 2015 10:38 Holyflare wrote:


is it not my mafia game?

On February 04 2015 11:30 Eden1892 wrote:
OK, I verified, it's the worst read of all time.

You can unbuckle your seatbelts now.

On February 04 2015 11:34 Eden1892 wrote:
vote rso

Damdred is probably town IMO

On February 04 2015 11:49 Damdred wrote:
No hf every post for a bit is damdred is basically confirmed mafia. So I have no room to talk to you without getting angry since I have lieraly been wagons before I had 10 posts in the game

On February 04 2015 11:55 Eden1892 wrote:

But I don't think Damdred is mafia :/

On February 04 2015 11:57 Eden1892 wrote:

HF why in your own words was Damdred already mafia at this point? (should be 12:37 AM your time)

On February 04 2015 11:59 Damdred wrote:
See hf look at what you said right there x dies after damdred you are already predisposed to kill me no matter what its really discouraging and demptivating. But it is what it is idk what I'm even avoiding at this point

On February 04 2015 12:04 rsoultin wrote:


Okay, so your only reason for avoiding HF's questions was because you don't like HF? I can believe this after last game.

On February 04 2015 12:09 Eden1892 wrote:

I bolded all the stuff that happened after you called him mafia and I'm ignoring it because it doesn't answer the question of why you called him mafia when you did

I also don't see the problem with his questions. The only ones that come to mind were questioning my thought process, which if he's town and doesn't get it, makes sense. I think if he's mafia he's less likely to do that with marv and Palmar chillin in the thread townreading me

On February 04 2015 12:10 Holyflare wrote:


no that's not true and I really don't care if you like it or not

On February 04 2015 12:16 Eden1892 wrote:

6:37 PM my time

Keep up with your own thought process Sherlock

On February 04 2015 12:18 Eden1892 wrote:

I already reposted it twice...



And none of that changes you quoting several parts of a questioning session after your vote as a reason for your vote

Marv is a claimed miller I think tone wise he's town just based on his postings obviously, so that in itself totally negates most of the sentence I was taking crap for earlier that I under explained. Miller is obviously easy for mafia to fake claim so IF Marv slips into lazy mode just lynch him, if he's productive I had a good read.

On February 04 2015 12:22 Eden1892 wrote:
Bruh that's still not saying marv is mafia. How tf are you guys reading it that way

Literally it's still "don't let marv be lazy confirmed town"

On February 04 2015 09:42 Damdred wrote:
Palomar is the trendiest town.

Eden town

Marv is town but don't let him skate by on his miller claim.

On February 04 2015 12:01 Eden1892 wrote:

Like this is literally your only actual post explaining why Damdred is mafia, and it's actually not a good one because:

- "Probably town" is an ok read to give someone who's been relatively active and attentive d1 even if they play a good mafiasided game
- Unless he thinks you're definitely mafia he's going to try to dissuade you from lynching him
- His comments on marv made sense when he clarified them (saying don't let marv be lazy) and you ignored the clarification and didn't expound

On February 04 2015 12:34 Eden1892 wrote:

idk if marv ever gets lazy as town these days ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
but marv totally got lazy in World Heavyweight III so... it's happened

in any case you certainly can skate by as town... by being lazy because you're confirmed

I just don't see what about that is mafia, it might be incorrect and silly but it's not suspicious to me. What does mafia Damdred have to gain from saying that?

And no they weren't lol I addressed your post where you gave a reason and it's in my filter

On February 04 2015 12:38 Eden1892 wrote:

so is JAT mafia or what? unless you think he is then I really don't see the difference between an early "probably town" read vs a "null" or whatever you wanted him to say (unless you wanted him to say mafia in which case, see question)

Cause he got mad? Avoiding interaction isn't per se suspicious, and I think you know this. Context is king. If he got mad at you for piling onto him - and whether you like it or not your reasons up to the reads post weren't actually all that coherent - then I would totally expect him to shut down, whether he's town or mafia. It doesn't mean anything

Already discussed the marv thing further in a recent post

On February 04 2015 10:38 Holyflare wrote:
mafia is probably entirely within

damd/rs/ls/onegu

On February 04 2015 13:48 Onegu wrote:



But you can sheep Marvs read on me when he is back, marv always knows when I am scum and when I am town.

On February 04 2015 14:13 Eden1892 wrote:

Son you have got to be kidding me

On February 04 2015 14:01 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW I am VT if anyone cares I wanted Cop again >.<

On February 04 2015 08:13 Onegu wrote:
Why can I never roll blue in normals? It's always either scum or VT...

On February 04 2015 13:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Like the time I saw you trolling before this game you were Mafia (Linux) and you trolled earlier about being a Miller and stuff but that Miller stuff was confusing.

On February 05 2015 01:49 justanothertownie wrote:
~10 pages to go still. Will be back in a few hours.

On February 05 2015 06:22 marvellosity wrote:
I really, really don't like Damdred's super-certain read on LS

I have no idea how you can hard-read LS as mafia for the posts that LS did.

LS always plays pretty weird. It's such an over-read?

On February 05 2015 06:56 Eden1892 wrote:
IKTFB

I still want to lynch Holyflare but he's confirmed town so I can't :/

JAT too but no one will probably want to lynch him either :/ :/

On February 04 2015 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
yes exactly we're going damred > rs since damd was kind enough to point out his partner

On February 05 2015 07:03 marvellosity wrote:


timestamps bro

On February 05 2015 07:01 Holyflare wrote:


man i was so on point like an hour into this game

rs has just been really really reactive and not digging enough from what i've seen in her town game so i'm happy with these 2 being mafia for now

On February 05 2015 07:31 Eden1892 wrote:

I read through 2 pgs of her filter and she's proactively questioning sicklucker and Damdred. Admittedly most of her stuff to this point is reactive but there's some digging there

on p4 there's some proactive comments, the one thing I note in particular is that she made the exact point Breshke did about LS immediately before he made it. further on p4 she's questioning Onegu, there's some more digging on p5 too

She had a reactive start but I think she's fine as of now. Go back and read her filter again for me HF, I think you're coasting a bit on your initial impression

On February 05 2015 07:31 Eden1892 wrote:

I read through 2 pgs of her filter and she's proactively questioning sicklucker and Damdred. Admittedly most of her stuff to this point is reactive but there's some digging there

on p4 there's some proactive comments, the one thing I note in particular is that she made the exact point Breshke did about LS immediately before he made it. further on p4 she's questioning Onegu, there's some more digging on p5 too

She had a reactive start but I think she's fine as of now. Go back and read her filter again for me HF, I think you're coasting a bit on your initial impression

On February 05 2015 07:38 Damdred wrote:


Yes, yes it does. People have a conditioned response to how they view things. In this case people are looking at me as scum so everything I say is tinted for the thread which is fine but it is the truth.

Im to sure of my read? Palmar was to sure of his read on me but nobody jumped on him for that obviously, who cares if i'm right or wrong about LS obviously I believe/believed it at the time and he is angrier to me than he normally is. And he is playing marginally different as is RS, and mind you LS was caught in a lie about Rsoultin that he normally wouldn't make because he is so hung up on meta reads and people sticking to that specific meta but ok.

On February 05 2015 08:14 batsnacks wrote:
I'm around if anyone wants to chit chat.

On February 05 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:


What was so towny about his filter? What is wrong with my case exactly?

On February 04 2015 11:47 Damdred wrote:
I am avoiding hf because his heads up his ass atm and its not enjoyable talking to him much

On February 05 2015 09:27 Eden1892 wrote:

Shit like this is really pissing me off. Why are you just sniping at him from the sidelines? He posts a case that sounds pretty townie and you're content just to dump on him instead of engage it or rethink your position or even just read it, argue why it doesn't matter and move on. You don't seem like you give a shit tbh.

On February 05 2015 09:38 Eden1892 wrote:

That's not an answer. There are three mafia in this game. He can think someone is sure mafia (or not; I got the sense he was backing off of it a little bit? Damdred what do you think about LS and what changed if so?) and still make a case against someone else. His case makes zero mention of LS either way, so why is that relevant?

On February 05 2015 10:01 Eden1892 wrote:
So why the fuck are you being lazy when your scumreads are making themselves more clearly townie by the day? If you're aware you're being lazy and you're in the thread, why aren't you doing something to be productive??

Why am I not supposed to be lynching you right now? You're supposed to be one of the best players here and you're basically outright telling me you don't care.

On February 05 2015 10:06 Onegu wrote:
Hey HF am I still scum and why.

You can't use this reason.

On February 05 2015 10:07 Eden1892 wrote:
And shit you said Damdred got more townie. So even if rsoultin didn't, it's bullshit that you're telling me you still have a scumread and so you're content with being lazy.

On February 05 2015 11:31 rsoultin wrote:
So now no one wants to interact with me? Brilliant. Gonna stop clogging up the thread then.

On February 05 2015 12:38 LightningStrike wrote:

Tell that to Damdred and sicklucker because they still have me #1/#2 spot for Day 1 lynch.

On February 05 2015 12:40 LightningStrike wrote:

Damdred made the case on me and sicklucker been sheeping it still. Damdred is more likely town than mafia because he at least is trying to solve the game but I wish he got my alignment correct :|

On February 04 2015 14:11 Holyflare wrote:
ls pretty towny bro leave him alone

This explanation for ignoring HF's questioning also rings true to me given last game where HF just browbeat Damdred for hours ><

On February 05 2015 13:05 Eden1892 wrote:
HOW DID MY FILTER GET TO 12 PG THS IS BAD NO WONDER I CANT FIGURE SHIT OUT

On February 05 2015 13:59 Eden1892 wrote:
sl are you kidding me why are rso and damdred mafia

On February 05 2015 14:38 Eden1892 wrote:

i was gonna tell you to stop catching up before you got to that part

i'm lost this game man. my gut says to lynch jat and hf and maybe palmar but i have no great cases for any of them

On February 05 2015 15:05 sicklucker wrote:


I Already covered this since the void ive become a policy lynch believer. I said it multiple times in that game

On February 05 2015 15:10 rsoultin wrote:


Yes, you can tell the truth as scum. But if you haven't actually pursued any policy lynches during a game while you were town, I don't see how you expect me to take it on faith that a change you decided to make while playing scum would actually be seen through in your town game.

So what is it then? Do you try harder as scum or town?

On February 05 2015 15:12 rsoultin wrote:


go sit in the corner, troll. i'm talking to sl right now

On February 05 2015 14:20 sicklucker wrote:
I dont have enough to go on yet we an kill his partner and I wont be the nk. I dont really even want to lynch him yet beause he has not given much and keeping him around ill read him better then someone like rstoulin or Ls.

Plus im pretty sure dandreds sum too.

Like holy crap I just read 10 pages all about me. Mafia is def pushing a lynch on me. look at who there trying to get it off of.

On February 05 2015 15:25 Eden1892 wrote:
This is what I was talking about, I should've quoted it in the same post.



"Won't let you feign activity"? Someone read that and tell me it doesn't sound fraudulent as hell

On February 05 2015 15:40 Eden1892 wrote:

But yeah this list. I don't like it at all.

Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason.

He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them?

When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated.

And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this.

We should lynch him

On February 05 2015 16:02 Eden1892 wrote:

Eh I think there's some decent stuff in the other things too. His reads are boring, I feel like the cool town players (which I consider JAT to be) have more interesting reads than what he gave.

But hey if the bold will get you to vote him I'm a-ok with you thinking the rest is shit

On February 06 2015 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
Jat may or may not be town. But you guys are pussies. I slimmed out of back to back day1 lynches like jat just did. Its not very hard to do. We will keep going ring around the rossie on everyone untill we lynch some lurker

On February 06 2015 02:31 Eden1892 wrote:

Why are you still on Damdred

On February 06 2015 02:30 Holyflare wrote:


That's what you said you wanted unless you're telling me you lied about your policy talk day 1

On February 06 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:
HF I love you and i'm sorry I was an ass to you

On February 06 2015 02:37 sicklucker wrote:


the keyword being "if we dont find scum" I think we have

On February 06 2015 02:45 batsnacks wrote:


I'd vote you if that makes you feel better.

Breshke though... Really...

On February 06 2015 02:53 batsnacks wrote:


Should I vote rs too?

On February 06 2015 02:56 Holyflare wrote:


I dunno I'll give her filter a read again at some point but i read bresh's filter and it seems pretty open and honest to me, the ls read and rethinking that he is probably town and sl read over time and stuff

On February 06 2015 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
i cba to read it though

On February 06 2015 04:22 Koshi wrote:

Very detailed.

On February 06 2015 04:06 sicklucker wrote:


Heres a good reason why she might be mafia. She doesint care that her votes on me. She might not even be back. Her top town read that she claims she will sheep got the vote off me.

Ive never seen her afk a vote

On February 06 2015 06:02 sicklucker wrote:
Why do you want to kill me when I obviously dont care. Like im about to vote eden because I know hes never going to die and go to bed

On February 06 2015 06:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Holyflare for the last time get the fuck off of Damdred

Jesus

How am I the only one calling this guy out for voting Damdred despite him not scumreading Damdred for like 16 hours now

On February 06 2015 06:12 Eden1892 wrote:

Cuz JAT is lead wagon and he's probably town and your scrub-tier vote is on an outlier you don't even believe in

Don't make the vote count analysis mad

On February 06 2015 06:14 sicklucker wrote:


Then I got out of it into confirmed town status and won us the game...?

On February 06 2015 04:17 Onegu wrote:
But now that marv has told me to step it up I have to listen to him...

On February 06 2015 06:41 Damdred wrote:
Marv tell me to sheep and I will.

On February 06 2015 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
That's one fucked up votecount.

On February 06 2015 07:34 Holyflare wrote:
bresh seems to have the anti case for every mafia read that people have though

On February 06 2015 07:35 Onegu wrote:
First thing that caught my attention was how he didn't remember me as scum as in ## all I did was replace in then tunnel him with a terrible case that marv slammed me. And then in Neat & Tidy he had me as town going into mylo before I stupidly shot him.

Second I do expect more from him, people shouldn't expect much from me. His interactions with Damdred seem to be not reading and not clear as Damdred explains himself and Koshi still asks him repete questions.

Then brerkhe or however his name is spelled gets a quick two votes on him and Koshi quickly goes to pressure him with very little. Notice a pattern he only sheeps his reads once people get pressure.

Then again pressure off of Brekshe and onto JAT, Koshi flips his read on to the current popular choice.

Once more I get pressure And off JAT and onto me. Koshi hasn't had a orginal read this entire game. Hasn't made a orginal push this entire game.

Sheep my sheep

On February 06 2015 07:40 marvellosity wrote:
Going to vote Damdred

1. stuff at the start of the game
2. over-certainty on LS
3. bitchfit at me and Eden
4. super-convinced case on sl ----> sheep on to Onegu/Breshke or whatever it was.

The excuse was "i learnt that sometimes you have to sheep"

but clearly the cases/pushes around in the thread aren't strong, fleshed out cases which are sheepable. it's totally the wrong time to sheep

- disappeared for an hour

##unvote
##vote: damdred

On February 06 2015 07:43 Koshi wrote:

WHAT?

So he thinks I am scum because I don't remind a game in which he was scum and tunneling me LIKE HE IS DOING THIS GAME?????????

On February 06 2015 07:46 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, it's just me and you bro

On February 06 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote:
Palmar no offense but you haven't even read the game, I have tried to move the game and really interacted. I got mad and dickish because people spent two pages basically associative reading my ass into the ground. People took shots at me all game.

But it is what it is. If I'm lynched maybe o caught mafia somewhere.

I think its SL and bresh idk about the third. Never lynch jat, Marv, palmar, Eden or batsnacks.

On February 06 2015 07:52 Koshi wrote:
So this happens when I don't try hard. Kinda hilarious.

On February 06 2015 07:53 Onegu wrote:



I r here. Why wEird? I was takeing a bath earlier and read but didn't want to type much and drop my ipad

On February 06 2015 07:54 Koshi wrote:

Cuz I don't want to die to some random guy voting me. I will change to Onegu if I can.

On February 06 2015 07:55 Onegu wrote:
I'm VT lol.

On February 06 2015 08:01 Damdred wrote:
I was really town thanks for the game and the shitty lynch and not actually reading

On February 06 2015 08:23 marvellosity wrote:

yeah me neither

On February 06 2015 08:25 Breshke wrote:
I always thought damdred was town, yeah im a pussy and not confident in my reads but even at the start of the game i said i didnt feel good voting on him.

I also gave reasons as to why i thought SL and Onegu were town.

Why am i mafia for having townreads

On February 06 2015 07:50 justanothertownie wrote:

The bolded is a good point.

On February 06 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Let's just kill SL.

On February 06 2015 07:59 justanothertownie wrote:

Sl is a much better lynch

On February 06 2015 08:26 Breshke wrote:


Because I havn't had any.



So having against the grain townreads makes me mafia?

On February 06 2015 08:31 sicklucker wrote:
Like i dont actually know why I was mod killed? Anyone know?