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Because it is a scum tell, he tries his best as town to be as spastic as possible and answer everything. That's not here that's not in void that's not in Linux.
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Scum damdred had like a 25 page filter in imperial, scum marv had a 40 page filter in imperial.
Therefore if they are scum they should always have those size filters.
correct?
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On February 06 2015 00:58 Damdred wrote:
Scum damdred had like a 25 page filter in imperial, scum marv had a 40 page filter in imperial.
Therefore if they are scum they should always have those size filters.
correct?
This was to marv.
And the point is, IMperial is an aberration of a game that went on to reach way to many posts where nobody could keep up exactly with what was going on.
So I really don't think its a good example since everyone had to drop things just because of length
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On February 06 2015 01:04 Palmar wrote:
I retract retracting my scumread on Damdred.
He is now scum4lyfe in this game for being super hostile and annoying. It does not fit with the personality I had attributed to him. He basically chooses to make stand-offs instead of actually trying to talk people into doing shit.
I think Damdred is a nice guy, and on the verge of becoming a truly great TL mafia player (like one of the elite players). This just doesn't fit with anything. It's out of character, it's weird, and it's not productive, and he KNOWS it's not productive.
I cannot believe he's town here.
I'm really not trying to be standoffish at this point, I was actively being an asshole true. But I am interacting with marv and Eden now.
And the second to last paragraph sorta makes me happy i'm sorry i'm acting out of character just a few things really have bugged me this game.
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Anyway, I don't think imperial is a good game to judge someones meta on besides perhaps tone which there is a lot more example of. Maybe writing style to, but in a game that's so big its really easy to get lost, normally I can remember every page I read roughly and find what i'm looking for past day two in imperial I was lucky to remember things we talked about 10 pages ago there was so much information overload.
SL probably didn't answer everything in imperial I will agree with that, but that game made it impossible to answer everything. His other games that he rolled town in he specifically would comment on everything in the thread that he could at that time for the most point.
Eden, your second point is a bit weird not because its not true or that its not something that a scum player can be guilty of, but its weird because it could be attributed to a great many people in the thread who are just sheeping or doing jack all. Its more of a null point, JAT usually does make good comments and point out a few things that are interesting as town he made one about me in his filter about the read wasn't the weird part about me that was pretty good. And he seems decently paranoid at points when it comes to people town reading him.
I haven't checked who was active in the thread at the time that JAT was present besides JAT and SL and a few others, so I can't really verify that he was able to follow up and he hasn't really been back since. And finding mafia through POE isn't exactly the most horrible thing.
I just don't know if this makes him scum.
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On February 05 2015 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:35 Onegu wrote:
Oh and because it's marv that's posting, that means he is town. Also as I pointed out you tried to make marv look bad. The fact that he is posting does not mean marv is town. People who attack marv are also not more likely to be mafia. You should know this since you were going at him when he was really obviously town in heavyweight III. Also I am retracting this: Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv you are annoying just shut up like you promised :/ Marv, I am hereby allowing you to post again.
On February 05 2015 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:41 Damdred wrote:On February 04 2015 13:12 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 13:04 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:02 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I understand why people calling me scum on my meta alone but I been playing some LoL games with my clan that's all and honestly I only played with scum!Eden and I getting a strange feeling from him this game that he might be scum but he seems sarcastic and trolling a lot earlier but he seem to be more serious now that how he was in our last game so (shrugs) Also I defended you rsoultin because I know you pretty damn well and you know it  I know you defend me a lot so I'm less suspicious when you do it vice other people. Where are your reads now, LS? So far seems to be Eden possible scum but it just might be paranoia on my part and I did unvote him since I can't get a train going. Damdred Null leaning his actions early were pretty questionable to how he normally plays but he seemed to look better for now. Sicklucker might be town but the last time I gave him a free pass on Day 1 he was scum I will have to hold off on that for now. Marv and Palmar are town since they made a decent case on Damdred being scum and followed up on it. JAT is most likely town he doesn't seem to be like a dick like he was when he was scum in Void Mafia. HF null I only played with him as scum only seemed him as town for 1 game but I can't tell the difference for now. Bats null he made to little posts for me to read him correctly. Onegu might be possible town but I never played with him before but he got a couple good questions but his filter length is pretty small too. Breshke town he asking lots of questions about me like he did in Student V and trying to make a meta case on me being scum. This is the most horrible post in the entire thread. Firstly LS shows little understanding of what is going on in the thread, First he has a scum read on eden (who is really towny btw) for no reasons at all basically just trolling earlier when it was a play rather than trolling. Now he calls my actions into question that I did earlier but doesn't give any information about them at all, I questioned his scum read but my actions are questionable? This is just a mafia post if I've seen one I have absolutely no idea how damdred comes to this conclusion about this post with the reasoning he is giving here. Does LS strike you as a player who would give only one scumread on the universal townread of all strong players in the game? Especially the last line seems way overboard.
On February 05 2015 01:03 justanothertownie wrote:Found some time. Let's see how far I get. Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 10:33 Damdred wrote:On February 04 2015 10:31 Breshke wrote:On February 04 2015 10:23 Damdred wrote:
Breshke, (btw your name is in my phones auto correct now lol) Marv Eden and Palmar are all really towny.
Jays town probably to, rs isn't. Im honestly surprised by how little my name gets misspelled Why is JAT probably town? Mostly just tone read, he's more s town lean atm Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 10:34 Holyflare wrote:
Damdred is far far far too sure about his reads. JAT just fooled people as mafia last game and plays as mafia generally well yet he's probably town, I have literally just been trolling yet at the top of the page he's trying to convince me to kill rs after he flips, marv he said be wary of yet still lists him as town even though he knows he's a miller....
silly To be honest the read on me is not what is bothering me about damdred. I guess he should maybe be a little more paranoid about me in general (?) but he told me in the void postgame that he thinks he can read me by tone and I think my tone so far has been pretty different/more jovial than in void mafia for obvious reasons.
These are just some of the posts I've pulled out where he looks like hes doing things and dI like the posts even if they are about me.
Also you accuse him of not furthering his reads or pressuring people basically, but if you read his filter a good portion of it is questions to me for example on some reads or statements he disagrees with. He wants to lynch me and he is interacting with me, he is doing the JAT thing trying to figure things out towards me at least.
I think he looks ok, not super town but shouldnt' be lynched today.
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On February 06 2015 01:41 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 01:37 Damdred wrote:On February 05 2015 05:47 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2015 13:35 Onegu wrote:
Oh and because it's marv that's posting, that means he is town. Also as I pointed out you tried to make marv look bad. The fact that he is posting does not mean marv is town. People who attack marv are also not more likely to be mafia. You should know this since you were going at him when he was really obviously town in heavyweight III. Also I am retracting this: On February 05 2015 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Marv you are annoying just shut up like you promised :/ Marv, I am hereby allowing you to post again. On February 05 2015 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2015 13:41 Damdred wrote:On February 04 2015 13:12 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 13:04 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:02 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I understand why people calling me scum on my meta alone but I been playing some LoL games with my clan that's all and honestly I only played with scum!Eden and I getting a strange feeling from him this game that he might be scum but he seems sarcastic and trolling a lot earlier but he seem to be more serious now that how he was in our last game so (shrugs) Also I defended you rsoultin because I know you pretty damn well and you know it I know you defend me a lot so I'm less suspicious when you do it vice other people. Where are your reads now, LS? So far seems to be Eden possible scum but it just might be paranoia on my part and I did unvote him since I can't get a train going. Damdred Null leaning his actions early were pretty questionable to how he normally plays but he seemed to look better for now. Sicklucker might be town but the last time I gave him a free pass on Day 1 he was scum I will have to hold off on that for now. Marv and Palmar are town since they made a decent case on Damdred being scum and followed up on it. JAT is most likely town he doesn't seem to be like a dick like he was when he was scum in Void Mafia. HF null I only played with him as scum only seemed him as town for 1 game but I can't tell the difference for now. Bats null he made to little posts for me to read him correctly. Onegu might be possible town but I never played with him before but he got a couple good questions but his filter length is pretty small too. Breshke town he asking lots of questions about me like he did in Student V and trying to make a meta case on me being scum. This is the most horrible post in the entire thread. Firstly LS shows little understanding of what is going on in the thread, First he has a scum read on eden (who is really towny btw) for no reasons at all basically just trolling earlier when it was a play rather than trolling. Now he calls my actions into question that I did earlier but doesn't give any information about them at all, I questioned his scum read but my actions are questionable? This is just a mafia post if I've seen one I have absolutely no idea how damdred comes to this conclusion about this post with the reasoning he is giving here. Does LS strike you as a player who would give only one scumread on the universal townread of all strong players in the game? Especially the last line seems way overboard. On February 05 2015 01:03 justanothertownie wrote:Found some time. Let's see how far I get. On February 04 2015 10:33 Damdred wrote:On February 04 2015 10:31 Breshke wrote:On February 04 2015 10:23 Damdred wrote:
Breshke, (btw your name is in my phones auto correct now lol) Marv Eden and Palmar are all really towny.
Jays town probably to, rs isn't. Im honestly surprised by how little my name gets misspelled Why is JAT probably town? Mostly just tone read, he's more s town lean atm On February 04 2015 10:34 Holyflare wrote:
Damdred is far far far too sure about his reads. JAT just fooled people as mafia last game and plays as mafia generally well yet he's probably town, I have literally just been trolling yet at the top of the page he's trying to convince me to kill rs after he flips, marv he said be wary of yet still lists him as town even though he knows he's a miller....
silly To be honest the read on me is not what is bothering me about damdred. I guess he should maybe be a little more paranoid about me in general (?) but he told me in the void postgame that he thinks he can read me by tone and I think my tone so far has been pretty different/more jovial than in void mafia for obvious reasons. These are just some of the posts I've pulled out where he looks like hes doing things and dI like the posts even if they are about me. Also you accuse him of not furthering his reads or pressuring people basically, but if you read his filter a good portion of it is questions to me for example on some reads or statements he disagrees with. He wants to lynch me and he is interacting with me, he is doing the JAT thing trying to figure things out towards me at least. I think he looks ok, not super town but shouldnt' be lynched today. The marv thing is fluff, I don't see where the tone thing is going. He does stay on point about you being too sure of your reads, so I guess I went too far in saying he did nothing, but if that's all he managed in the time he had, I'm still not convinced he put much effort into it.
That just seems so....ambiguous to me, convincing someone you put effort in is just a meh way to find scum in that vein of thought. Sure if scum marv did absolutely nothing I think you could make a good policy/lynch argument for him. But JAT as mafia tries just as much as town jat so its hard for me to take the argument meh.
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I could see a breshke vote as well.
I'd be happy with bresh or sl.
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O_o bresh said the case on sl was good. And then moved onto jat with SL....I already said that once but its really icky
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Yeah its a realy horrible reason to town read me on XD. I totally hard defended 2-3 townies in imperial for cred.
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On February 06 2015 02:03 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
and yeah, mafia get way over-invested in defending townies all the time, it's a very natural thing to do Yeah, but when they're the alternate candidate? Because you and Palmar were very clearly going to lynch Damdred if not JAT
This is a better point but a bit wifom.
Anyway, the main meh thing about bresh is the way he voted
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Also eden why did you have such a hard on for jat following thread sentiment to you but youd on't see anything wrong with breshke filter when he sheeped onto jat with one of his scum reads because that's what was being talked about?
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I made a case on SL Ls what are you talking about? ITs still a good case to
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Eden point me out a few good things in breshkes filter
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On February 06 2015 02:21 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 02:20 Damdred wrote:
Eden point me out a few good things in breshkes filter There was one point where he was discussing LightningStrike and it seemed like his read on LS was pretty natural and evolving. That's all I really remember though.
What about his weird soft defense of me when I was under the most pressure?
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HF I love you and i'm sorry I was an ass to you
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case in student mafia V I belive it was rsoultin got busy as town and had to afk his vote till eod in mylo.
Its a fairly bad reason
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That's like 50 pages ago when I got ridiculed for saying that eden
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I'm up for an SL lynch since he seems to care and says he doesn't.
or give bats his lynch
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SL doesn't really care who dies as he claims rsoultin doesn't but he clearly cares about dying wee should kill him
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