LS is the hardest read in the game for me, and I thought I had him dead to rights because some of the things in his posts conflicted he was making 0 sense as the thread went along and he got caught in a lie. I think this makes him a really good shot as mafia, is he 100% mafia idk.

Damdred

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February 04 2015 22:56 GMT

#1111

Then why should I be certain on any read? Then I would be scum read for leaving my options open!

Hes a hard read but I generally read him right.

Damdred

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February 04 2015 23:35 GMT

#1132

Lost what I wrote on sl zzzz, i'll write it again but no quotes

Damdred

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February 04 2015 23:53 GMT

#1144

The first and most important thing I think when it comes to SL is activity, by and large its not a huge reason why hes mafia but it does show up in his activity and how the day is going if he is mafia. For example if you look at Void or at Linux mafia you can see a huge wave of activity when he is up for discussion or when he is on the chopping block and when he starts getting less pressure applied to him he will slink back into the shadows and afk. As town, he generally posts a fair bit even when hes not the topic of conversation and throws out reads as he goes along.

There is a clear somewhat illogical thought process that you can see across his thought patterns as town. Be it crazy plans or ways to confirm that he is town or that someone else in the game is confirmed town he flows with crazy theories no matter what. However in his scum games hes only concerned about himself being confirmed town. You can somewhat see it coming to that by trying to get town read by doing nothing at points.

Hes not really pushing his scum read he is sheeping and giving untrue thoughts as a way to justify his stance at present time. This can be seen with how he characterizes my push on Eden with the questions early on ie when he said I called Edens post terrible. Which had never happened and he went on to say that he would unvote me if It wasn't for the horrible made up read on JAT which was a town tone read at that stage of the game.

Also if you look at his mafia games he has a way to ignore certain things that go on in the game, ie questions in void and Linux at points and statements at others. Here he does the same thing like with th ejat town read or my questioning edens post by selectively showing which posts to talk about.

He is also not scum hunting, as I mentioned before he has a way of making associative reads early on between people ie crazy filters that have some semblance of thought progression. Here we really don't see that, we see a little bit of Damdred is bussing Rsoultin I believe at points but that is a bit odd because just earlier he was playing with the idea of unvoting if not for another read.

Also the lie that batsnacks caught SL in was that he doesn't try hard as mafia. He tries really hard when hes on the block as I said earlier but when discussion is off of him he is a background player rather than in the front which is where hes at now since i'm on the block and he has nothing really to discuss since a mislynch is going through.

tldr
SL is playing towards his scum meta rather than his town meta
He is selectively replying to posts or selecting parts of posts to make others look bad
He is working in the background instead of being in the action not really scum hunting
Is basically afking his vote

SL is a great shot for scum

Damdred

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February 04 2015 23:58 GMT

#1149

On February 05 2015 08:57 marvellosity wrote:
it's kinda compelling

The spirit of damdred compels you

Damdred

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February 05 2015 00:08 GMT

#1153

On February 05 2015 09:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Why the hell is this game so frustrating.

I think Damdred's post was pretty town but I felt like when I read SL earlier he was town. Now people want to kill SL and I still don't really see it either!

Can we just kill JAT and then I'll get nightkilled to throw people off and not have to think about this anymore?

What was so towny about his filter? What is wrong with my case exactly?

Damdred

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February 05 2015 00:17 GMT

#1161

On February 05 2015 09:12 Eden1892 wrote:

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I'd have to go through it in detail to argue what's wrong with the case. Idk if I should right now though, I don't think I'm doing a very good job analyzing things. I gave a brief description of why I thought SL was town before, maybe it'd be better if you rebutted that instead of me trying to rebut yours?

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I actually don't think this is a good way to read SL at all honestly, if you look at Void mafia or even Linux before he got pinged out and under heavy pressure he was acting pretty free and light. And if he arguably likes playing mafia more than town wouldn't his tone be happier using this logic as rolling mafia? Also he really hasn't been doing much until he gets called out.

This isn't true he says usually pretty own as town that game is solved but this is sorta a meh point in defense and SL is probably the cockiest person in the game no offense to him of course. I remember once he said we were going to lose the game if we lynched him etc., anyway I don't think its a good defense at all.

Damdred

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February 05 2015 00:17 GMT

#1162

If you are town you owe me a huge ms paint apology after this hf.

Damdred

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February 05 2015 00:23 GMT

#1168

On February 05 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
rs is like the biggest mafia and hardly anyone is mentioning her and goes off making cases on other people instead

I thought iws 100% confirmed mafia to you <.<.Nobody would listen to me when I started making points on rs just kept calling me mafia and you don't even respond to what I post.

Damdred

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February 05 2015 00:26 GMT

#1170

sounds good

Damdred

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February 05 2015 00:27 GMT

#1171

I actually put forward a case instead of blindly howling into the air that someone is mafia even though I responded to all of your questions soon as I got a minute. But that's beside the point I suppose.

Anyway, read the case read sls filter post responses vote for him

Damdred

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February 05 2015 00:33 GMT

#1174

Actually I really don't care if he snipes at me at present if he wants to ignore everything I post its fine.

The more important thing is to talk about what I posted in the case and in responses. Lets get on track here and talk about this

Damdred

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February 05 2015 00:42 GMT

#1178

I say people are sure mafia all the time and change stances, i'm not sure what I think about LS. I think theres a shot that hes mafia because of the lie and trying to force a town read onto rsoultin for false reasons, but he could possibly do it as town.

Damdred

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February 05 2015 01:00 GMT

#1192

I should of saved that case to later in the day so it doesn't get lost to all the bickering in the thread...

Damdred

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February 05 2015 01:02 GMT

#1194

You aren't supposed to be lynching HF because I made a great case on SL that you are going to sheep

Damdred

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