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justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 00:10 GMT

#4678

On February 09 2015 09:09 marvellosity wrote:
i'm not going to argue with you though, i'm just not

You better not because you would lose this argument.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 00:11 GMT

#4682

On February 09 2015 09:10 marvellosity wrote:
it really isn't

people can read HF's filter for themselves

Yes, the can. Good night.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 06:25 GMT

#4779

On February 09 2015 14:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Oh wait lol

Breshke shoot JAT always. He's the best pick for mafia right now + we might learn something about bats (depending on the flip) + we might learn something about the mafia (depending on flip) + if he's somehow town then we at least know that much instead of spending forever speculating about it + between marv and JAT I trust marv to bleed town more

This is the stupidest reason to shoot me ever. You don't trust me to bleed town? I have never been mislynched in my entire mafia carreer. You also don't shoot for information in this situation. We need to hit scum to gain a mislynch and I am not scum.
LS is basically scum in any world even if I was scum so shoot the fuck out of him. There is no way that I am scum with bats or marv like you are saying. No way. And even if LS WAS town - who do you trust more to successfully fight a mislynch? Me or him? Who do you trust more to figure the game out tomorrow? When I see the nightkills + a possible check I will be able to solve this game.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 06:28 GMT

#4780

If LS is town you WILL mislynch him. Don't kid yourself. Especially if you shoot me and it is something crazy like bats + rsoultin or marv. Then we will have lost the game.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 06:32 GMT

#4781

I don't even know what made you townread him suddenly. He just posted some filters and asked people to look at them without giving any reason for his read like he did all game. He just says I am scum because ut is popular again. Suddenly HFs case on me is good when he didn't even really have one and when LS was the first one to say that MY case on HF was good. How convenient.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 06:52 GMT

#4783

On February 09 2015 15:41 Breshke wrote:
JAT it would help me read you more if you could try find a scum outside of LS

I am pretty clueless. That's why I need to see the nightactions. Probably rsoultin? It could also be bats and he is just swagging on me because of our last game but I don't think this is very likely. It could also be marv but my gut said he is town all game. On the other hand we just let him live because of his 100% read on which he is never wrong. And he was wrong. You absolutely cannot shoot me here. You don't even learn anything if I flipped scum. And this won't happen because I am town and we will be in LYLO. Good luck finding both scum in that case.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 08:49 GMT

#4787

On February 09 2015 16:14 Eden1892 wrote:

Show nested quote +

Assume me or Breshke dies since that happens 9 times out of 10. Add in scum LS from Breshke's shot.

You have yourself, rsoultin, marv, batsnacks and the other of me or Breshke alive. Where do you go from there?

Sorry, was sitting in a train and my phone died.

So, if I assume your scenario I would do the following:

I would want to hear bats check and see how much sense that makes. Then I would try to figure marv out. If marv is town I am confident that we will be able to townread each other - we have been in similar situations before. Marvs miller claim and general attitude are points in his favor. On the other hand HF seemed to think he could be scum and raised some decent points. There is also the "koshi is a shocking lynch" statement when it looked like Koshi could possibly be lynched. Marv has been concerningly wrong this game.
But this this why you dont shoot me OR marv tonight. We will figure the other one out and if one of us is scum it will be very hard to lynch one without the other. If you shoot me and marv is scum I know that you will never lynch him. I just know it.

Rsoultin is "probably mafia" because she is too right if that makes sense. Remember when literally everyone said my case was awesome (because it was)? She did not only say "meh not that good" but she immediately ridiculed the case for being awful. Why? Because she knew it was wrong. If marv is town same story - everyone thought he was scum because he claimed scum. Only rsoultin still thought he was town. This could be a legit case of too much information.

There is just no way that I am mafia this game. I would not shoot fucking Palmar after drawing supposedly town marvs ire by calling him possible scum. I would not go balls out after HF. Do you really think I as scum would think town HF would be the easiest mislynch there? No way. And even if I get him lynched it massively implicates me. It is a losing play in any case. I don't go after HF in general as scum. I buddy up to him.
Compare this game to void mafia and tell me it looks the same. I dare you. I was absolutely not invested in that game which made me obvious scum and I am extremely invested here. If I had rolled scum 2 times in a row after that piece of shit game I would not put in this much effort.
You just don't shoot me here. You need to hit scum and I am town. I was even green checked ffs. You don't shoot someone who will be able to bleed town if he is. You shoot someone who is more likely mafia anyways and even if he wasn't would forever be a question mark and a likely mislynch. You shoot LS.

I need to start working now. See you later.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:16 GMT

#4861

On February 10 2015 01:01 Eden1892 wrote:

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On February 10 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay guys I'm back and now I bring the case on why JAT is confirmed Mafia. Now lets start with my first piece of evidence his case on HF on page 15 of his filter:

On February 07 2015 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so first of all HF is one of the best if not the best scum player on this site. You won't catch him for being inactive uninteresting or any of this shit and he will bus teammates who are playing badly. He will say towny stuff from time to time and he is also perfectly able to "mindmeld" with you at times. You need to look for the agenda he is pushing.

This is why he is mafia:

This is the start of his rsoultin scumread day1. From now on she is basically his #1 scumread.

On February 05 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
I mean if i'm honest I'm probably more sure about rs than damdy

On February 05 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
yeh rsoul is green when I just gave the best case against her ever

On February 05 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
rs is like the biggest mafia and hardly anyone is mentioning her and goes off making cases on other people instead

On February 05 2015 10:10 Holyflare wrote:

On February 05 2015 10:07 Eden1892 wrote:
And shit you said Damdred got more townie. So even if rsoultin didn't, it's bullshit that you're telling me you still have a scumread and so you're content with being lazy.

it is what it is, rsoul has literally posted nothing all game and it hasn't really changed i don't care what your gut tells you or not

On February 06 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:

On February 06 2015 02:45 batsnacks wrote:

On February 06 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm at a crossroads between just not giving a crap about the game and giving a modicum of care towards the game with an emphasis on the former and it's somewhat annoying to me.

Nobody even mentioned me other than eden and i haven't even done anything this game really which is super boring and probably means mafia is the weaker players.

I'd vote you if that makes you feel better.

Breshke though... Really...

I'm more inclined to vote rs tbh

But when the deadline comes nearer and people are not all about lynching rsoultin he completely forgets about the read. He isn't decided on who to lynch and has MULTIPLE different targets suddenly that he keeps pushing really hard:

On February 06 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
let's kill oneguuuuuuuuuu

if i'm wrong you can flame me for wasting your time

On February 06 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
abandon wagon ABANDON WAGON

SHEEP TO DAMDRED OR I LYNCH YOU TOMORROW

On February 06 2015 07:57 Holyflare wrote:
god this breshke is actually 100% mafia or something

Notice how ALL of those are town and he can jump between them as much as he wants if he is mafia. No mention of rsoulting ever during all of this.
So what has rsoultin done to make him forget about her? The answer is absolutely nothing. She disappeared like he will say himself later.

Ok, so mislynch accomplished. Back to scumreading rsoultin immediately:

On February 06 2015 08:24 Holyflare wrote:
it's funny how rsoul just appeared at deadline to vote onegu and then completely disappeared again so probably 100% breshke/jat/rsoul

So, I point this out and this is his reaction:

On February 07 2015 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
How have I treated rs? I've thought she was mafia all game and at deadline onegu was way more convincing mafia but then he wasn't mafia so i went back to talking about rs being mafia?

Then where was this read during eod? He literally went after 3 other people and said nothing about her.
If you want to know how town HF handles his scumreads eod look at void mafia. He scumread HTS and pushed her hard even though noone else really was up for it besides Kelsier. He didn't give a fuck about other targets - he pushed HIS scumread.
Now he claimes he scumread rsoulting all game and then he does nothing about getting her lynched? There is no way town HF does this.
He is INSISTING that he never dropped his rsoultin reads though:

On February 07 2015 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
No it's not he said my read progression is damning because I drop it when I haven't

And then the real gem comes:

On February 07 2015 02:00 Holyflare wrote:
I'm also going to preemptively defend myself from a jat onslaught by saying i wasn't invested in this game at all until deadline so my rs read isn't very concrete compared to reads i was making in real time then. Seeing as I was mostly trolling, apart from the nagging what if on damdred.

Not only can you easily see the guilty conscience - he knows I am town and that I caught him and will push him - but SUDDENLY HIS READ WASN'T VERY CONCRETE?
Read the posts I quoted earlier again and decide for yourself if you want to believe this and keep in mind that he "scumread rsoultin all game" and "never dropped the read".

This guy is mafia. I will show more reasons but this rsoultin read evolution is damning enough on it's own and I don't want the post to get too big.

On February 07 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:

On February 06 2015 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
pretty sure a town jat would have switched to onegu when I was pushing for it

Then we have this reasoning for scumreading me which makes no sense in the first place since I had more reasons to scumread SL than Onegu but even if we ignore this - why would I as scum make myself look bad by not following town marv and HF around (which I have done as scum before) if all lynch targets are town anyways and I could just switch as often as I want?

On February 06 2015 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
yeh mafia is undeniably palmar or jat because they are just the type of people to qq in their scum qt/pms about modkilling

I already commented on this post. It is just another awful reason to push me.

On February 06 2015 13:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm still 100% lynching jat though he's done a void all over again where he avoids all the wagons and reasoning while still agreeing with it. He did the exact same thing in heavyweight too.

Flat out lying when I clearly WAS on one of the wagons and was also pushing it. Saying I avoided wagons in heavyweight is also a straight lie.

Then his defense against me:

On February 07 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
It's absolutely not irrelevant because do you see him talking about rsoul at deadline? Absolutely not so if he is town then why does his read make sense to him when he did the same thing?

This is absolutely irrelevant. I was not the one pushing rsoulting as my top scumread.

On February 07 2015 01:32 Holyflare wrote:

On February 07 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
his rsoul read came subsequently, pretty obviously, and yours didn't

so.

Rsoul has been in his poe list and someone he could have lynched the entire game and he barely ever commented on her

Like it doesn't matter anyway because his read is totally irrelevant if you read the deadline and if it's his only proper read this game when it should be pretty damn easy to poe the majority of mafia then he doesn't have much hope

Another lie. He said this when I had just poe'ed the mafia team a few posts before this. Still going on about how I read rsoultin which has nothing to do with my argument against him.

On February 07 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
which is a pain because my effort level is low and i know jat is just going to whine and make it difficult to lynch him

He knows I am town and won't let myself be mislynched without putting up a fight.

Now if you looked in Void Mafia he was just as aggressive towards HF at Pages 1,2, and 3 of his filter on these same type of behavior towards a different player named Half the Sky before turned his attention to his scum read Marv in that game. Also note his behavior after HF backed off of JAT , JAT started to like him in Void Mafia at page 4.
From Void Mafia:

On January 21 2015 04:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

On January 20 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote:

On January 20 2015 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
I'm pretty confident on one mafia, but you're gonna have to wait for those pearls of wisdom until tomorrow.

P.S. I thought HF was leaning town already due to how he backed off his Wile push.

^
I liked that too but he would've made himself look pretty awful had he kept pushing.

Now if you look at his behavior regarding the votes on him or prssure on him he just attacked everyone including me and HF in this game. He did similar behavior throughout Void Mafia as scum and here is a convenient quote that JAT also in this game when someone mention him as scum in void Mafia when Koshi was town:

On January 23 2015 08:03 Wile E. Coyote wrote:

On January 23 2015 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Tomorrow I sheep HF. Just got to check he isnt as crazy as I was in the previous game. Maybe lynch Wile and then HTS. But hts will have to go soon.

no comment

and now here's some similar type of quotes from this game:

On February 09 2015 03:12 justanothertownie wrote:

On February 09 2015 03:09 Holyflare wrote:
I still think it's jat :p

No comment.

On February 09 2015 02:54 justanothertownie wrote:

On February 09 2015 02:52 batsnacks wrote:

On February 09 2015 02:52 marvellosity wrote:
HF is 100% mafia, don't tell I didn't tell you so Eden.

DO NOT SAY I DID NOT TELL YOU SO.

jat is mafia too?

That's the part where it gets ridiculous.

Notice how he got angry on people wanting to lynch him throughout this game and in void he displayed the same behavior. When I played with him in Metal Mini he didn't seem to get mad as easily as this game and was activly solve the game there too.

i haven't even read this shit beyond "JAT confirmed mafia" but LS has finally done the one thing i needed him to do all fucking game

which is to stop saying "read XYZ filter"
actually read it himself
and come to a conclusion that doesn't completely fly in the face of this game's events

i'll read it before EOD to see if it's bullshit but if this is legit then LS is town and this game got easier

It is not legit. He literally quotes random posts and says I am mafia. The only thing he says is that I am aggressive which is true but not scum indicative because I am probably even more aggressive as town than as scum. Compare my filter in void and this one yourself. There is no way you come to the conclusion that it looks similar. Or more similar than this game is to any of my town games.

On February 10 2015 01:02 marvellosity wrote:
of course LS's case is legit, it's a hard bus

Dude, you are wrong and the fact that you are so sure about it is extremely worrying.

On February 10 2015 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
it's like being barked at by a dog, and i can tell him he doesn't get dinner for an hour because he only gets dinner after i've had dinner and it's the same every day, but the dog will continue to bark

best just leave the animal to it

I remember a very similar post in the shadow game where you were mafia and comparing town austin to your cat.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:20 GMT

#4868

On February 09 2015 17:57 Eden1892 wrote:
That point about LS forever being a question mark is pretty good.

Frankly though I'm not sure I can leave it up to you and marv to figure each other out. There's a nonnegligible chance - actually a pretty decent chance in my book - that you're both mafia. That combination worries the fuck out of me because you're both hella good and I suspect I wouldn't be around to figure you out.

There is no world in which marv and me are mafia. Absolutely impossible. If marv and me were mafia I would not have townread him the way I did early in the game.

On February 09 2015 18:47 marvellosity wrote:
jat is fingering rsoultin as mafia when rsoultin just looks very, very townie.

If you can't rebut my argument then shut up about it. I am trying to figure out the game giving actual reasons for my thoughts and you just say: "this guy is scum for entertaining the idea that rsoultin might be scum." Get the fuck out.

On February 09 2015 19:55 Breshke wrote:

Show nested quote +

I agree so from your PoV JAT is like confirmed mafia

Only if bats is mafia?

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:20 GMT

#4871

On February 10 2015 01:18 marvellosity wrote:
I can't wait until I morph into your scumread though

You are on a good way with your current behaviour.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:23 GMT

#4876

On February 10 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:

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excellent.

so predictable

Yes, if you confidently call me scum without giving any reasons for it and without even trying to figure me out and this is like your 3rd or 4th really strong read that is wrong this game then I start having trouble believing you are town.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:23 GMT

#4878

On February 10 2015 01:22 marvellosity wrote:
can't wait till Breshke makes the wrong shot, mafia vigi hit their shot and town lose tonight

it's gonna be baller

You think I am scum AND there is a mafia vigi? How on earth does that make sense?

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:25 GMT

#4880

On February 10 2015 01:23 marvellosity wrote:

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i know babe, i know you have to call me mafia here

it's ok, keep it up

I don't have to call you anything because I am town. But you are not working with me. You are not trying to solve the game. You have gone into this day with LS/JAT mafia 100% and are not reevaluating this in the slightest.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:26 GMT

#4883

On February 10 2015 01:24 marvellosity wrote:

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why not?

Mafia vigi + roles that fuck with the cop? Really? I am a greencheck remember?

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:27 GMT

#4888

On February 10 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:

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that's because you're mafia

mr. "HF/rsoultin 100% so obvious on d2"

Yes, I was wrong. So were you. At least I am trying to solve the game now. The fact that you are attacking me for my attack on HF is not only hypocritical but also completely nonsensical.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:27 GMT

#4890

On February 10 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:

Show nested quote +

goon+vigi+gf vs cop+vigi+miller

yes

Sure. You would have to know right?

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:30 GMT

#4897

On February 10 2015 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
i'm not, but you were absolutely certain on d2

and now you are trying to paint it as scummy that i am certain now

if you are town and you were certain

then it isn't scummy for me to be certain now, WITH THE ADDITION of an extra flip

gg

The difference between my certainity and yours is that mine was earlier in the game and not in what is LYLO if Breshke does not shoot mafia today. And also that I had really good reasons to think what I think. I haven't seen your case on me/LS but maybe you can show it to me?!

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:31 GMT

#4901

On February 10 2015 01:30 marvellosity wrote:

Show nested quote +

ah sorry, so i'm certain with more information

my bad

Show me that information. Do it.

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:32 GMT

#4905

On February 10 2015 01:31 marvellosity wrote:

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i know hf's alignment

Great. How does that make you 100 % sure it is me+LS?

justanothertownie

16320 Posts

February 09 2015 16:32 GMT

#4907

On February 10 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay bats fakeclaimed cop and now claims medic. What the hell is going on other than JAT is Mafia?

Just shoot this guy. I am tired of his bullshit.

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