EPTOn February 07 2015 05:03 batsnacks wrote:
The town is an old roof
The ridgepole sags to its breaking point
Who is this town's ridgepole?
The town is an old roof
The ridgepole sags to its breaking point
Who is this town's ridgepole?
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On February 07 2015 05:06 LightningStrike wrote: Eden what is your PoE if one of the 3 are town? Idk yet. Honestly I figure I got time to iron out the list. Koshi/Hf/rso is just where I'm at now. Koshi is a lock to flip red IMO so I got at least 72 hrs before I need to know the next one | ||
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On February 07 2015 06:29 marvellosity wrote: auto-lynching rsoultin for saying "only reason to read town is because of his claim" what a bitch. not reading the thread much? No. We kill Koshi first. He should have died d1 if I hadn't been a dumbass at EOD. If you set aside your tendency to see red whenever someone isn't calling you 100% town then I know you'll see that for how shaky rsoultin's filter is, Koshi's is worse. At least she can point to some pushes on sicklucker at different points. Koshi can't point to anything. And I say this with her still firmly in my POE lynch pool, don't get me wrong. But Koshi has to go first. We don't have the luxury of chasing lynches that aren't the highest-% play. | ||
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On February 07 2015 05:45 rsoultin wrote: marv, what really pisses me off is you (and hf earlier) on your high horse talking about how long my filter is and saying it has nothing in it when it's obvious you either haven't read it or are just misrepresenting it i'm not on when you guys are. I work all day and have limited access to the net. something most everyone here knows, actually, because this is nothing new. it's ridiculously demoralizing to return to 20 more pages every time I come back when I'm already behind. but i'm still doing what I can at night when i'm here i'll get caught up this weekend, assuming bresh doesn't shoot me, but do me a favor and actually read what i'm posting This just reads really sincerely to me. It reminds me of how I felt during Imperial. I kinda feel shitty that I've contributed to the thread being so ridiculously long, because I know exactly what she's talking about here. It is really demoralizing to return to 20 more pages to play catchup. I end up skipping entire sections as town and feeling like a buster for doing it. And the thing that makes me think this is a townie sentiment is that this doesn't occur when I'm mafia. If new pages go up and I'm not staying on top of shit, I straight up just cruise control and don't care about them until I have to. It's the specific descriptor as demoralizing that's making me think this is a townie post, because as mafia I know I couldn't plausibly fake being demoralized, and rsoul's shown signs of it in her other posts too (wanting vig to shoot her to move the game along, not being in the right place to argue with people about whether she's pushed things). The other big hangup I'm having right now with rsoul being mafia (and yeah I know, I just said she's in my POE lynch pool looooooooool) is that it seems to center on her not pushing things or making cases. rsoul points to some things in her filter that indicate pushes, marv says they aren't strong enough / invested enough / etc. The thing is that rsoul really seems to believe that she made these pushes. I tend to side with marv in that I feel like she hasn't done a lot of strong questioning or pushing her reads, but at the same time, that isn't exclusive to her being town. She totally could think she pushed hard enough and marv just disagrees. That happens sometimes, and given her IRL workload, I'm kinda leaning toward that being the case. Maybe I'm just being a massive sucker and she's playing me hard with an appeal to emotion, maybe I'm overinterpreting her post and she is just mafia making excuses, but this all read really sincere to me, and I'm a little worried that no one else seemed to show any pause when they read this. | ||
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Imma be totally honest with you guys, I'm hoping Breshke is vig and gets a shot off on Koshi and takes the n1 for us lol. I'll admit I don't have this game nearly as figured out as I hoped. This is the Real Zen right here lol Koshi definitely has to go. I don't really know what to make of JAT or Holyflare. I keep going back and forth on these two and I don't really get any serious resolution at the end of the day with either one. marv keeps giving me the heebie-jeebies at times with some of his posts, but I'm really not sure what kind of world we'd have to be in where scum!marv is contributing more and working harder to figure out the game than almost everyone else in the thread, so I'm ignoring that strange vibes and keeping him in my town pile. My brain says rsoultin has to be in any POE lynch pool, my heart says her posts seem really sincere and genuine and she's town. It sucks but every single time I've been in this spot this game so far, where my brain says X and my heart says Not-X, my heart's been right. I just wonder if it's right again. Breshke town. Can be town hero if he shoots mafia!Koshi tonight. LS can wait until next post. (DON'T FORGET TO READ NEXT POSTS IF YOU ARE READING THIS AFTER I GOT N1'D!) Palmar I've basically been tying to marv. If marv is town then just sheep marv on Palmar and hope for the best. If marv flips scum then lynch Palmar unless he bleeds town through every pore on his skin. batsnacks seems okay enough, but the lack of real pushes since EOD bothers me. Seems like he could easily enough just play to his meta, tunnel somebody until they flip town and then fish around for a new target as mafia. I get why he's being meta-read town but it's not something that's especially difficult to replicate. I feel like a fair bit of his comments during the night have been pointed enough that it looks like he's going somewhere (the example that comes to mind was his comment "or so he's claiming" in regards to me POEing rsoul mafia), but then it never materializes. Have we been too quick to just hand him a townread for replicating an easily-replicated meta? His filter isn't actually all that impressive if you replace "batsnacks" with "Anon Player X." In conclusion kill Koshi, trust marv, hope some of the scummy vets step up, please if you're gonna lynch someone like rsoul be careful to ensure you're being charitable in parsing suboptimal play due to busyness/demoralization/etc. vs suboptimal play due to rolling scum. | ||
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On February 07 2015 07:06 marvellosity wrote: Eden: have you checked out how she behaved when she was under strong suspicion or whatever in the game she got lynched as town? i think that's a task that should be done She didn't have a chance to, she returned to the thread 5 minutes before getting lynched b/c she was afk with work all day. She got a bum rap that game | ||
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What does everyone think about LightningStrike right now? I've said he's town a few times and given a reason, but to my knowledge no one commented on it, which is a bit weird to me. Is LS town or mafia and why? | ||
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On February 07 2015 07:15 Eden1892 wrote: She didn't have a chance to, she returned to the thread 5 minutes before getting lynched b/c she was afk with work all day. She got a bum rap that game Addendum because I'm illiterate and missed the "under strong suspicion" bit (which did happen before she got railroaded). I'm not sure there's much to be taken from the moments where she was under strong suspicion, because essentially she was being scumread by association with Breshke (who was himself unflipped - and town) rather than for things she directly did. She fought fairly hard I think. I feel like she fought harder in that game than here, but between the higher activity level here and her undoubtedly being busier due to handling military separations paperwork, there are too many lurking variables to get anything meaningful out of it. HF posted her filter from that game, if you think it'd be worthwhile to look it over I'd recommend it. | ||
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On February 07 2015 07:18 batsnacks wrote: Eden do you take stimulants? Liquid cocaine with a needle why | ||
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On February 07 2015 07:21 marvellosity wrote: i think 1 and probably 2 mafia are playing really well this game or at least well enough to make it very difficult for me. If 2 mafia are playing really well this game then one of rso or Koshi is town, FWIW (trans: rso is town) | ||
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This guy has one read he pushes the whole game, it's Breshke as mafia. Breshke claims vig which makes 0 sense for mafia to do when he did it, IMO. Too risky play for mafia if there's a real vig. He moves onto SL at EOD based on a secondary suspicion into which he didn't invest a lot of time, SL flips town. And we're giving this guy a town pass because that's his town game? It seems way too easy to replicate... | ||
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11 pg/cycle vs ~7 I'll spitball and say this thread would make it to 300 pages by the end of four cycles since I'm getting nk'd and the spam will sharply decline. 11 / 300 vs 7 / 128 0.0367 vs 0.0547 = 2/3 as active in this game as the other one. Now factor in IRL circumstance difference and...? Inconclusive but I think it's plausible (with likely/unlikely being inconclusive) that the difference in activity is due to IRL circumstances. | ||
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On February 07 2015 07:32 marvellosity wrote: you'd think it would be easy to replicate, but he never does. so... yeah sigh I always find myself asking "Is this the game?" in these situations | ||
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On February 07 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote: tbh 2/3 would seem to be the average difference between someone's town and mafia game if i had to take a stab well I know that's false, at least for me god that post count boom was awesome to invoke and sad to be capable of invoking the point being, without actually seeing any of rso's mafia game specifically, idk whether an average estimate is especially handy | ||
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On February 07 2015 07:40 Holyflare wrote: look you're looking at page numbers and i'm looking at content and there's multiple bits of content thrown out everywhere in her town game and like no real content here and now she's just complaining when all someone asked her to do was asked who she's pushed today?? don't buy it at all but, but that post felt so town.  it is like I said, I don't think I can logically argue her innocence very convincingly. at least I'm starting to feel better about HF being town. maybe it's jat/koshi/bats lol | ||
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if there are no mafia between JAT and HF then I'm gonna shit bricks | ||
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