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On February 07 2015 09:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 09:15 marvellosity wrote:On February 07 2015 09:13 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 09:10 marvellosity wrote:
like you don't randomly bluehunt when there's a claimed vigilante with 2 shots.
it's so wtf not without rbing the vig, anyway. but then, if bresh is mafia, why shoot koshi? it doesn't make sense from any direction yeah like i said i'm not pushing on breshke or anything i'm just randomly musing in the thread when there's no resolution to my thoughts because it makes zero sense. I beat you to it and now you're saying the same thing rofl Medic dodge/maybe have a vig on their side too that hit a save/maybe they have framer and think there's a cop
oh yeah. this is all kinda plausible. especially as Palmar is a medic dodge shot really.
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oh yeah, like I mean obviously I don't want any of this to go anywhere
literally everything i'm saying is a massive segue and i'm not expecting it to have any effect on who we're lynching or whatever.
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On February 07 2015 09:25 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
You're saying we'd be mylo if he shut up but breshke was super suspicious day 1 and a likely lynch
Makes no sense for town to claim at night with rbers tbh It made a ton of sense if you remember his rationale when he claimed. He said he didn't see himself ever shooting, so he was basically a named VT, so he claimed. The idea to shoot was developed well after he claimed, default assumption was don't shoot because of extra day (WHICH WAS MAFIA KOSHI'S IDEA TOO LOL)
then we both said it was a terrible play to shoot but he should shoot anyway
i should be conf town to you for that alone :p
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On February 07 2015 09:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
You're saying we'd be mylo if he shut up but breshke was super suspicious day 1 and a likely lynch
Makes no sense for town to claim at night with rbers tbh Do mafia shoot mafia? This is a legit question; do you have an instance where scum has made that play, because it seems entirely counterintuitive to me when mafia can just shoot two towns?
Vivax has done it, yes
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maybe I should just sheep LS
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On February 07 2015 09:28 rsoultin wrote:
You did mention a Vivax play but I had no clue what y'all were talking about, lol. You guys keep forgetting not all of us have played that long.
well, he shot his scumbuddy. what else do you want me to say :p
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if my memory serves, it was in TL Mafia LX
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On February 07 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 09:31 Holyflare wrote:you really are a glutton for punishment aren't you  i'm pretty sure i'm a closet sub/borderline masochist?
better to be an out in the open sub, trust me
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On February 07 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:
I'm waffling on bats. He seems to have been super reluctant (except for saying jat is a justified lynch near EoD) to vote/push/pressure jat all game. I also see jat defending bats a lot. Which makes me think that if jat is scum, bats may either be his partner, or just pocketed town. Some of bats' later posting makes me think the latter, because all of his "this is also a good lynch" stuff from EoD checks out. His read on you, bresh, not so much though I think that may just be me on he not seeing you as terribly scummy Day 1.
Bats, can you tell me why breshke being "passive" caused you to switch to him from SL? I know that you mentioned that SL responded well to your vote on him, but what was the tipping point?
Brilliant! if Jat is mafia, bats is town or mafia.
That's added to my understanding of this game tremendously.
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On February 07 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 12:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_- ...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot Okay, but even assuming they have no RB...which a 2-shot vig without an RB is kinda lolworthy...why no kill either? There's a possibility that JAT is town i guess and they thought if i wasn't going to no shoot i would shoot him. Also it could be so we would do this type of speculation. Honestly i came close to not shooting but marv some post from marv made me not want to be a punk about it
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On February 07 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2015 13:01 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote:On February 07 2015 12:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_- ...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot Okay, but even assuming they have no RB...which a 2-shot vig without an RB is kinda lolworthy...why no kill either? There's a possibility that JAT is town i guess and they thought if i wasn't going to no shoot i would shoot him. Also it could be so we would do this type of speculation. Honestly i came close to not shooting but marv some post from marv made me not want to be a punk about it Yeah, I guess it's pointless to speculate, especially if that's my only reason for hesitating on JAT. Really do want to hear why bats is pushing HF though. Because this donkey town gave him the keys to be perpetually townread by making decisive pushes on people even if they don't make sense I know the real reason Palmar was shot now. Show nested quote +On January 06 2015 19:48 Palmar wrote:
Tbh, looking at ritoky's post, I could 100% lynch superbia because the guy doing his own thing is almost always mafia. This guy would have buried batsnacks tomorrow. 100%. #TrustInPalmar
batsnacks always, ALWAYS, *always* does his own thing as town.
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I'm going to vote jat.
Reasons: because.
##Vote: jat
need to check into that koshi stuff still but i cba till some point later
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##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare
let's make it interesting
NB: all this does is reflect my vast uncertainty. Will probably make an informed decision when I get round to reading Koshi meta and deciding about rsoultin.
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I kinda agree with jat, i don't think a jat/bats team makes that much sense to me. dunno, we got over a day, so a lot of time to muse on it
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jat's not the sort of player to repeatedly hard-clear his team-mate
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On February 08 2015 00:16 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 00:14 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 00:12 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 00:05 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 00:01 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2015 22:48 justanothertownie wrote:On February 07 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote:
^ Like, I have no good reason to believe jat is town, and he should be the lynch, but I keep coming back to that and going meh. I have a reason to not lynch jat. But let's lynch him anyways. Seems legit. On February 07 2015 12:47 Eden1892 wrote:On February 07 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so forgive me for going back into WIFOM land, but I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around a scum koshi and a scum jat pushing hard for breshke not to shoot...but no rb and no kill. That just makes no sense to me -_- ...if they have no rb then they would very obviously want us not to shoot. Lol It would be stranger if they were mafia and pushing for Breshke to shoot with no rb. As it is this makes perfect sense. They don't want us shooting so they argue for us not to shoot because that's the only way we don't shoot If I was mafia with Koshi and we had no rb then we would kill Breshke. What kind of nonsense is this?
Interesting how you take my post that actually says I have no good reason to believe you're town and then construe it as I have a good reason not to lynch you. You think it's any more likely for a Koshi/HF team to leave Bresh alive than you and Koshi? It makes no sense for any player in this game to do that! "I keep coming back to that" good reason to townread me. Yes, it is more likely for a Koshi/HF team to do this since it was pretty likely that Breshke would shoot me or Koshi. And yes, it doesn't make much sense for anyone to do this but the only possible explanation I see is that they were gambling on Breshke shooting me. Give me a good reason to townread you, then. What have you really done all game? I mean, seriously? Cause this NK speculation stuff makes 0 sense for anyone as mafia. I can use that lovely WIFOM to try to clear myself, too. Like, why in the world as mafia would I keep insisting Breshke shoot either me or my scum partner, if we're not going to RB or kill him? This is nonsense. No mafia team is going to sit around with their thumb up their ass and go 'well, hehe, there's a 50/50 chance breshke shoots town so let's roll the dice and hope he kills jat'. Such a dumb argument. I love how you just keep attacking me for nonsense but completely ignore the huge case on HF. You've already responded to my thoughts on your huge "case". Nice try. All you're even saying is that I was his scumread and he didn't push me at EoD when there were what? Three, four other wagons? That case is so flimsy it's hilarious. Good job making it look huge with all the quotes, though. 
this is the worst post in the thread by far
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On February 08 2015 01:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 01:07 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 01:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:On February 08 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 00:33 justanothertownie wrote:This is literally the next post in my filter. No way you don't see this when you post those quotes. On February 06 2015 07:57 justanothertownie wrote:
SL is here but doesn't care in the slightest about who gets lynched as long as it isn't him. You can also have a look at damdreds case on him. Sure, I saw that, but I also see Marv (I believe) making the exact same argument for Damdred about pushing SL then not caring where the lynch goes. You don't even mention Onegu again. That says why you voted SL, but not why you had such better reasons to.
And that case Damdred made on him was made the night before. I should know; it's why I went through SL's town games and chose to push SL myself. What is the bolded even supposed to say? Ridiculous. So what if marv made that argument about damdred? I didn't think damdred was scum and I also said that multiple times. And wtf does it matter when damdred made his case? So here's what I just don't get. And maybe I'm just dumb or something, but where in all that rigamarole were you so much more certain that SL was scum than Onegu, when it's clear you thought Damdred was town and voting Onegu would keep Damdred from being lynched? If I have a townread up for lynch I'm going to try to make sure he doesn't die, especially when I have no reason to townread the other two wagons. In fact, that is almost always my play on Day 1 because I rarely have a strong scumread, and even when I do people usually don't listen to me. I told my townreads on the damdred wagon that I don't think he is a good lynch. I pushed his counterwagon SL and voted him. What is your fucking point? I think you see my point just fine given your answer. What in marv/palmar/hf's posting ever gave you the impression that you telling them the lynch was "bad" was enough to get them off Damdred?
what is this question? ?? is he not supposed to say when he thinks a lynch is bad because other people sound certain? wtf?
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