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On February 09 2015 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
You're so fucking arrogant. You brought up hts saying that i don't forget scum reads and push them. I only pushed onegu at deadline and rsoul was literally just afk. I thought onegu was super scummy and then people jumped on onegu and he said some sincere sounding vt claim so i yelled to switch to a whim damdred.
Rsoul became secondary in my mind to people present it's not rocket science. I then said she's actually transformed into a lesser read compared to koshi/you/palmar(whoishotyehfuckingright).
I didn't "forget all about her" i pushed a read i thought was very mafia
Yeah, but me shooting Palmar makes sense?!
You did push Onegu, you did push damdred, you mentioned that Breshke had to be scum at eod. All townies. You never ever mentioned rsoultin even in passing.
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On February 09 2015 00:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm pretty sure many people scum read rsoul but didn't mention her at all at deadline not just me.
Yes, but the difference is how sure you were that she is scum earlier.
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On February 08 2015 14:59 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 14:55 Holyflare wrote:No you don't need to yolo. The case you shouldn't like if you read any of the points i just raised. You literally just say it's my town meta from void WHEN JAT IS PUSHING THAT IT ISN'T. Does that make sense at all to you. Jat was in that game and is spreading misinformation to make it look like I'm mafia. You weren't even in that game and can see its similar to this. Why can't he? To be fair I shadowed you in that game but he played but it seems odd about JAT indeed. Okay I siding with you I trusting meta over JAT's case now it's the only I can think of now. ##Unvote:
##Vote: justanothertownie
This guy is just constantly going with what is the current thread sentiment. Wtf.
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On February 09 2015 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
I am actually the low hanging fruit. You don't put onegu/rsoul in secondary poe over koshi who is a main scum read after never mentioning him.
I don't buy it
I can scumread him without mentioning him. There were other people talkning about Koshi (Eden?).
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On February 09 2015 00:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On February 09 2015 00:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm pretty sure many people scum read rsoul but didn't mention her at all at deadline not just me. Yes, but the difference is how sure you were that she is scum earlier. Was i sure about onegu? Was i sure about damdred? If your answer to any of these is yes then you fall flat
No.
No.
Not as sure as about rsoultin.
And there is no way you are low hanging fruit in any game ever.
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On February 08 2015 16:07 Holyflare wrote:
Nah i wouldn't really do that... Although I'm almost never in that position because i just argue for people to lynch who i want. Jat seems much like a flaccid penis in d1 and n1, he's there but not really doing much and when push came to shove and it wad deadline he just didn't have the balls to push his read over anything else.
When marv said he was lynching damd jat didn't particularly protest though, all he did was pick out 1 point that marv said and said he didn't like it and then didn't achieve much else. Much like hts lynch in void.
I told marv multiple times that I thought damdred was a bad lynch and I DID push for my read over anything else which is what you were scumreading me for earlier (JAT did not switch to Onegu wah wah). You are just constantly contradicting yourself.
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On February 08 2015 15:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 15:34 rsoultin wrote:
HF, litmus test? Reread jat's stuff leading up to EoD?
Btw, LS, using that crtl+f trick, bats hardly mentions jat at all until today except when asked about him. Course, I haven't done that with all the other players, so in that sense it may not be significant, but his HF is scum over jat think looks stranger because of how he hasn't seemed to read jat before now. Uhh can't really be bothered i just know he has his random poe out of nowhere and when i start to yell and marv yells about how onegu is a great shot for mafia jat just throws useless questions at it and ignores switching. Marv even calls him mafia at that point for how stubborn he was based on barely anything at all. I'm much more confident a town jat would follow us despite what he says.
Which he immediately retracted but nice try. Why would I follow you as town but not as scum? I followed you around all the time in heavyweight.
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On February 09 2015 00:17 Holyflare wrote:
No contradiction there whatsoever?
Yes. First you push me for not joining your Onegu train and pushing my scumread instead now you are suddenly scumreading me for not pushing my scumread. Does not compute.
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On February 08 2015 20:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 01:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Like you can say I didn't push really hard against an Onegu lynch even though I was more sure on SL which is true to a degree and the reason for this is that I did not have a townread on Onegu but to say I did put damdred in danger by not voting Onegu is simply untrue. This is the post I am talking about. Specifically the bolded but the whole of it in its entirety "I didn't push hard against an onegu lynch" - that's right, he was (tacitly) supporting/pushing the lynch. jat's stance was *never* that he was *against* the Onegu lynch. I think this might be some sort of slip, given how else he talks about Onegu in the rest of his filter from the end of d1 onwards. I don't think a townie should be arguing "I didn't push against the lynch of a guy i was suspicious of to lynch this guy i was more suspicious of"
On February 08 2015 20:48 marvellosity wrote:
read what i'm saying again.
jat is saying he didn't push AGAINST an onegu lynch to lynch sl in that quote.
all his previous posts suggest he was reading Onegu as scummy, and that maybe he should have pushed FOR an Onegu lynch.
Read this in context marv ffs. even HF told you that this is a bad point.
On February 08 2015 20:50 Holyflare wrote:
I also don't really get the point you are making in that post. He agrees he didn't push onegu? Isn't it a response to rsoul saying he didn't push onegu to save damd?
Rsoultin called me scum for not pushing Onegu when my townlean damdred was on the block. I rebutted that saying damdred was never really in danger of getting lynched and the only thing she could accuse me of is that I did not push hard for a SL lynch over Onegu when I had a stronger scumread on SL which I obviously didn't BECAUSE I was suspicious of Onegu. I don't see your problem here.
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On February 09 2015 00:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 00:19 justanothertownie wrote:On February 09 2015 00:17 Holyflare wrote:
No contradiction there whatsoever? Yes. First you push me for not joining your Onegu train and pushing my scumread instead now you are suddenly scumreading me for not pushing my scumread. Does not compute. That's not true. I scum read you for not joining onegu and not really convincing anyone to stick to sl other than saying vote sl.
Which is a contradiction in itself.
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On February 09 2015 00:19 Holyflare wrote:
Like if anyone believes what i said was a lie why aren't they voting me and instead are voting you? Are you mad or are you just being super scummy on purpose?
Are you seriously making this argument? Well, have a look at yesterday when everyone was voting you and calling my case good. No idea why anyone would unvote you after that tbh. people just tend to believe you regardless of how scummy you are I guess.
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Like what has HF done today apart from OMGUSing me? Nothing. "I am so confused, I don't know who is mafia" but JAT definitely is because he is attacking me. Yeah, right.
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Marv, I refuse to let you mislynch me to "confirm" my reads. I would expect this logic from a Sicklucker level player but not from you. If Breshke does not shoot mafia tonight we are in LYLO because you are too lazy to figure this game out today.
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There is also the problem that I am way less certain about mafia #2 now. Rsoultin is so damn tenacious with the crap she is spouting it really feels genuine somehow. And then there is LS who is just going with whatever is popular at the moment. Game is hard.
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On February 09 2015 00:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 00:35 justanothertownie wrote:
There is also the problem that I am way less certain about mafia #2 now. Rsoultin is so damn tenacious with the crap she is spouting it really feels genuine somehow. And then there is LS who is just going with whatever is popular at the moment. Game is hard. Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Like what has HF done today apart from OMGUSing me? Nothing. "I am so confused, I don't know who is mafia" but JAT definitely is because he is attacking me. Yeah, right. Sure I haven't done anything today, no. I'm still not mafia.
What a convincing argument.
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So HF, if you assume for a minute that I am not mafia. Who is?
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On February 09 2015 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Look i don't care if it's impressive or not and you asked me a world where you weren't mafia and i can't really see one
Which on it's own makes you pretty much mafia since I am town.
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On February 09 2015 00:56 Holyflare wrote:
If I'm mafia I'm pushing whatever the fuck i can, shooting eden or marv or breshke depending on my mafia team roles and controlling the game. I'm lost, don't really have a direction and busy so it is what it is.
Maybe you would do that. Or maybe you would just do what you are doing. You are capable of both.
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Also, as long as you are getting me mislynched you don't need to put in any additional effort.
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