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On February 05 2015 06:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so the people I could maybe be convinced to lynch are:
1 Breshke
3 rsoultin
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
12 Holyflare
I don't actually want to lynch HF that much but I have seen nothing from him that he couldn't do as scum so fuck him.
Breshke/Onegu/bats are more POE because they haven't been as towny as the rest of the game but there were still moments from all 3 of them that made me think they could be town. Would need a good case on those to lynch them.
SL and Damdred look the worst to me and would be my prefered lynch targets right now.
But yeah this list. I don't like it at all.
Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason.
He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them?
When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated.
And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this.
We should lynch him
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On February 05 2015 15:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 15:40 Eden1892 wrote:On February 05 2015 06:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so the people I could maybe be convinced to lynch are:
1 Breshke
3 rsoultin
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
12 Holyflare
I don't actually want to lynch HF that much but I have seen nothing from him that he couldn't do as scum so fuck him.
Breshke/Onegu/bats are more POE because they haven't been as towny as the rest of the game but there were still moments from all 3 of them that made me think they could be town. Would need a good case on those to lynch them.
SL and Damdred look the worst to me and would be my prefered lynch targets right now. But yeah this list. I don't like it at all. Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason. He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them? When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated. And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this.We should lynch him none of this makes him potential mafia other than the bolded
Eh I think there's some decent stuff in the other things too. His reads are boring, I feel like the cool town players (which I consider JAT to be) have more interesting reads than what he gave.
But hey if the bold will get you to vote him I'm a-ok with you thinking the rest is shit 
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wait what did I do there...?
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On February 05 2015 16:33 Breshke wrote:Eden can elaborate on this? Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 12:59 Eden1892 wrote:
RETRACTION: I read batsnacks' filter and he's just inactive town imo
Meh not really it's gut/tone/etc.
I don't really care much about batsnacks rn, tbh. I want to get JAT lynched or make him bleed town before EOD. I promise to think about bats during n1 though, ok?
In the meantime will you kill JAT?
iPALMAR!
Vote JAT
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Another reason we should vote JAT is that he was my 10th vote which is a lucky number in binary
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On February 05 2015 19:12 Palmar wrote:
So where we at marv, solved the game yet?
I scratched your JAT last game with Toad. Scratch mine this game plz
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On February 05 2015 20:34 marvellosity wrote:
seems i probably won't decide who i want to lynch until much closer to deadline :/
Kill JAT
Or at least comment on:
On February 05 2015 15:40 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 06:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so the people I could maybe be convinced to lynch are:
1 Breshke
3 rsoultin
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
12 Holyflare
I don't actually want to lynch HF that much but I have seen nothing from him that he couldn't do as scum so fuck him.
Breshke/Onegu/bats are more POE because they haven't been as towny as the rest of the game but there were still moments from all 3 of them that made me think they could be town. Would need a good case on those to lynch them.
SL and Damdred look the worst to me and would be my prefered lynch targets right now. But yeah this list. I don't like it at all. Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason. He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them? When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated. And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this. We should lynch him
On February 05 2015 16:02 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 15:48 Holyflare wrote:On February 05 2015 15:40 Eden1892 wrote:On February 05 2015 06:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so the people I could maybe be convinced to lynch are:
1 Breshke
3 rsoultin
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
12 Holyflare
I don't actually want to lynch HF that much but I have seen nothing from him that he couldn't do as scum so fuck him.
Breshke/Onegu/bats are more POE because they haven't been as towny as the rest of the game but there were still moments from all 3 of them that made me think they could be town. Would need a good case on those to lynch them.
SL and Damdred look the worst to me and would be my prefered lynch targets right now. But yeah this list. I don't like it at all. Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason. He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them? When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated. And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this.We should lynch him none of this makes him potential mafia other than the bolded Eh I think there's some decent stuff in the other things too. His reads are boring, I feel like the cool town players (which I consider JAT to be) have more interesting reads than what he gave. But hey if the bold will get you to vote him I'm a-ok with you thinking the rest is shit
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Why are the people who are still voting Damdred voting Damdred?
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I will save the incessant bugging until EOD because I know people don't respond to incessant bugging before then, just don't want this lost in the shuffle. I really think this has some legs though.
Haha inertia, at least it's acknowledged  Admittedly question is more for Palmar (who I understand decided not to read the thread, but still expect to make his vote count) and Holyflare (who said he didn't view Damdred as the most suspicious player anymore). I hope some not annoying prodding will get the job done at EOD then. I really want this lynch
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On February 05 2015 22:51 Damdred wrote:
SL should be the lynch today.
[1] Firstly since sL came back to the thread he was only active before people started talking about really switching to JAT which thread sentiment started to favour, and he only re appeared once people noticed this pattern once again.
2 Besides that he made it extremely clear that I should be the one to die since the lynch was trying to be pushed on him and its obvious mafia is pushing the wagon. But soon as people started saying the case on him was good he started to push the JAT angle and he voted Jat instead of killng the person who the wagon was being pushed off of.
3 He is still selectively quoting and interacting with people.
This guy is mafia. Also people who say the SL case is good and then vote with him give me the heebie jeebies
breaking your post into 1-2-3 for convenient responding.
[1] is fair and I'm gonna keep watching it throughout the day. This is a pretty good strike against him.
[2] I'm not as sure about. I know what you're citing, but the whole "mafia are trying to push this wagon, look at who they're pushing it off of" bit came off to me like town!sicklucker. No offense to SL but it was the exact kind of excessively self-important thought process I expect from him as town. I forget who said it, I think rsoultin, that as town SL tends to post some odd theories about the mafia's gameplan that revolve around him being targeted, this fits the bill to me.
[3] I dunno again. Not saying it didn't happen, just that I didn't notice it. What do you feel he's ignoring lately that makes you think he's been selective in his interactions with people?
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On February 05 2015 22:57 marvellosity wrote:
no it isn't
in Imperial he didn't answer 95% of questions/stuff directed at him
Literally the example I had in mind for [3]. A+
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On February 05 2015 22:59 marvellosity wrote:
there's just something off about his stuff on LS and sicklucker a bit.
Dodge the entire issue for a day and vote JAT
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On February 05 2015 23:00 Damdred wrote:
Yea fuck it just lynch me i'm not going to try when people ignore half of what I said even when they say oh its a good case. This shit is just stupid.
bruh what
I'm gonna get JAT lynched what even is
Lol
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On February 05 2015 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
Playing with Palmar in general is becoming a chore, his try to non-try ratio of games has reached the point where on balance it's probably not enjoyable anymore
it also feels like jat dodged Damdred's big case on sl a bit, he made a couple of short posts after it saying he was off and going to bed, but I dunno, I always read up to my last post, and I would have commented on it...
of course i have absolutely nothing to prove this and he could genuinely just not have read it, it's just an annoying thing.
I miss Palmar from Melee Mini and from the tryhard stretches of Imperial 
This post made me go back and read and I have a whackjob theory that goes in spoiler tags so you have no one to blame but yourself if you read it and feel like it's a waste of time.
+ Show Spoiler +bats and JAT are partners. On February 05 2015 08:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 08:50 batsnacks wrote:On February 05 2015 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:On February 05 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:On February 05 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:On February 05 2015 08:37 batsnacks wrote:On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense. This is referring to SL? Yes. On February 05 2015 08:30 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense. yes, this is also true. This is only half true for SL then. Yeah he usually tries to figure out the game or acts like it is already solved as town but... he also makes shit up left and right and posts irrelevant nonsense as town. Generally not without a purpose. He says dumb shit as town but you can see some line of thought. As scum he just posts random bullshit. So... you're sort of the authority on town SL nonsense vs mafia SL nonsense having been his scum mate last game. Which is it this game? I am quite obviously leaning towards mafia SL nonsense. I really don't like this bolded question, it doesn't really have a direction and the answer is pretty obvious from JAT's other posting. batsnacks has no meaningful followthrough either, he literally just says "SL stopped posting once his voters unvoted him" and that's it. It kinda looks like a question you'd ask as mafia to look busy and to have some kind of interaction with a teammate.
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On February 05 2015 23:04 Damdred wrote:
JAT has a much lower chance to flip scum than SL does. You have hard defended SL for pages and haven't even responded to any part of my case or my response to your original reasons why hes scum when instead you directed the thread towards a different vein which is total bullshit.
Now Breshke and SL are voting together when bresh said my case was good and I was town. You don't even blink when SL changes from Lets kill Damdred since mafia is trying to push off me onto him and all of a sudden hes super happy lynching JAT.
Who by the way is always super try hard as mafia tone is super different from his mafia game.
I don't really follow the point of where this is going.
I'm following my instinct today because I thought myself into one corner, out of it into another, out of that one and into a pocket of non-Euclidean space and realized that the more I thought about the game the more I could convince myself of anything. It's what happened to me when I did try to play well in World Heavyweight 3 and I'm not letting that performance happen again. So it's back to basics. SL's play has issues, but at the end of the day I really thought I had something with this:
On February 05 2015 08:38 Eden1892 wrote:Haha I just read sicklucker's filter after rsoultin mentioned him and came across this post Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 21:32 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2015 21:22 sicklucker wrote:
so jat both dandred and ls had totally made up town reads on you. Did you yell at them in the obs qt? You were the only scumbuddy I ever had to yell at (goes to show how "good" your play was). And I didn't even once tell you to townread me. From now on I will ignore your bullshit though. I won't let you feign activity by answering anything like this again. This sounds hella fraudulent to me I also think SL is probably town, both for the thing marv pointed out and his general demeanor. He's a lot more light and clearly having more fun, like he doesn't feel the need to prove himself this game. It fits with his self-declared preference for playing mafia, I think if he were mafia he would be more uptight than he has been because he'd be trying hard to win. And he also kept trying to do stuff d1 even after declaring that he would skip out on the day.
And decided to dig in further and ride with it.
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On February 05 2015 23:09 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 23:04 Damdred wrote:
Then lynch me marv, and see how much I care I've been kinda wanting to change my mind on you, but now I feel like I have to policy lynch you for being a dick.
>votes for Damdred's target
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EPT
