EPTI'm voting Palmar. (That and Robik I could genuinely see as scum this game, claim aside -_- and he's voting Damdred)
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I'm voting Palmar. (That and Robik I could genuinely see as scum this game, claim aside -_- and he's voting Damdred) | ||
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the hyper-focus on SL scumming Eden for his "anger" at Robik over yours and Damdred's, HF...you really think that's the scummiest thing in the thread? I mean, he's not a strong townread to me, either, but irrational from him is something that I kind of expect, and I can completely sympathize with the sentiment that he thought all your pictures (HF) were jokes, and not a strong push or read, as opposed to Eden's. | ||
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On February 01 2015 14:10 Holyflare wrote: No, it's not the only scummy thing in the thread. Everything he writes is backwards, his read about ls, his 100% town read on marv after JUST policy "pressuring" marv because he was super good mafia last game???? his different reads on me/damd/eden based on absolutely nothing, sure he answered but it didn't make any sense at all. His scum read on palmar which is ass backwards because he's saying palmar is mafia because he's not finding marvs tell when he doesn't have a marv tell which he'd know from imperial or whatever it was. His useless behaviour. He isn't paranoid in the slightest and literally has no back and forth with anything. He isn't indecisive. Next cycle if he isn't lynched I'll explain some more. The paranoia point, and not being indecisive, those I can see. As I said, I expect irrationality from him so most of the rest more or less falls under that umbrella. His reads generally are pretty mutable, though, from my experience with him, so when they're not... Eh, I'm too tired to do more of this tonight. Will post some thoughts in the morning. Good night, all. | ||
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I'm usually against lynching claims, but just staring at that OP... That blue role was the most likely one to be in one of the set-ups, completely useless as a blue role so it doesn't matter if he doesn't do anything and he can't be checked that way, and he has been completely useless. Like, that's actually the safest role for scum to claim and there's not a reason for town to do so. Yet scum can make it harder for blues to claim by throwing doubt on them if there are "too many" because of Robik's early claim. I really want to do this >< Can anyone give me a good reason why it would be bad to lynch Robik? | ||
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On February 01 2015 15:06 sicklucker wrote: No we dont. He will get confirmed as mafia at some point if hes not doing that as town. Like it makes little sense to do as town but it makes 0 sense to do that as mafia. Robik is like 95%+ town were not lynching him even if he afks 3 days in arow. We have max 2 blues right? So when they die or claim he cant win as mafia. Fake claiming here as mafia gives him like a 0% chance to win. Also how come no one comments on my awesome post? Cause I already didn't want to lynch you, and was just going to verify what HF was saying, anyway? HF responded by saying he wasn't sure anymore? And actually there is? I just explained how it could be a good play for mafia to claim named VT right from the beginning. 1. He gets townread until enough blues claim to cast doubt on his claim. 2. He can get away with doing jack shit for several days just as he's doing now 3. Gives him an excellent launching point (or his scumteam) to mislynch blues, by saying that other claimants are fake-claiming, especially if they're about to be lynched and claiming blue when that would be too many blue claims. 4. Named VT literally doesn't have to do a damn thing night action wise to prove he's actually blue. It's practically like claiming regular VT. Would anyone be townreading him at all if he hadn't claimed? | ||
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On February 01 2015 15:15 Trfel wrote: I guess I'll request this again. I feel useless, and I really don't like that feeling. Someone help me please? Trfel, dude, can this wait until Night Phase since we're still trying to settle on a lynch? It's not great timing for this question. | ||
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On February 01 2015 15:16 sicklucker wrote: Well I disagree but im not gonna fight you on it because this is all you need to know. We can confirm robik later as town or mafia when we figure out the setup so killing him now is bad Okay, you do realize that there can be 3 blues in the set-up? So only once we hit 4 (depending on the make-up of the claims/flips) would Robik even be called into question? I mean, I'm cool with a Palmar lynch today, don't get me wrong, and I don't mind waiting till Day 2, but I honestly think he should be treated like a regular VT rather than placed on a pedestal. I think it's hardly suicidal for scum when you need 4 claimed/flipped blues to even look at him. | ||
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On February 01 2015 15:26 sicklucker wrote: Even if its only a small chance we can verify him we have to keep him around. Having one extra lynch in this game is kind of a big deal. And your potentially throwing that away if you do this guys Okay, let me try to explain my thought process a little better. We've got 13 people yeah? Say we mislynch today. We've come up with shit for wagons (let's just be honest here, we have). Damdred is most likely the NK. Even if Robik is telling the truth he's just a fancified VT. 8v3 Okay, so how many more mislynches does scum need to win? Just two. There is the potential for two more blues to claim. Just basing it on blues, and ignoring the town mislynches that happen so frequently, there is a high probability here that Robik can scrape by as scum claiming named VT. I'm not saying lynch him blindly. I'm just saying the usual don't lynch him unless it's MYLO or something may not be the best play if the only reason he's being read as town is because he claimed named VT right off the bat for some god-awful reason (if he is actually town). | ||
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On February 01 2015 15:50 Damdred wrote: Like am I the only person who finds HF post in the least bit interesting? I know i'm biased cause tis about me though Moreso if he continues to argue a fallacy rather than the initial stating of it, tbh, Damdred. I often post what I remember before double-checking so -shrugs- which is why I get yelled at for not reading xP Dude, for srs, if you're not a prime lynch and you really are blue (which I'm inclined to believe right now because not a prime lynch), claiming? The pressure really wasn't that bad :/ | ||
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On February 01 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote: If the lynch is actually between me and robik town is doomed. I think Palmar should be included in that list, and I like chez. Don't lynch my chez  But I'm not sure why you're insisting so much on robik being a bad lynch? Generally, yeah, totally against lynching blue claims, but this situation isn't normal. | ||
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On February 01 2015 15:56 Eden1892 wrote: I could + Show Spoiler + threaten to until he does something productive you do something interesting I can actually say that without being a hypocrite right now -cracks whip- | ||
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On February 01 2015 15:57 Damdred wrote: No RS this is HF remember he just said a few pages ago he didn't forget anything this game and then just obviously misrepresented what happened/forgot/lied. It was a rage quit and now i'm trying to be useful for the next 36-40 hours or so before I get nkd more than likely Okay. He did say that. If you die N1 I promise to watch him for you and not blindly townread him. I don't think it's enough to get a D1 HF lynch, and probably wouldn't support it myself, but you're right in that he said he remembers everything and that was not what actually happened with you. | ||
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On February 01 2015 16:01 sicklucker wrote: No its just bad. Its actually terrible. Robik has ogi excuses too. HE DIDNT VOTE AS MAFIA IN ANOTHER GAME THAT JUST FINISHED. Like I would kill rsoultin now this is not real life Okay, as I said: I am fine with a Palmar lynch today but I do not think that Robik should get a free ride for claiming named VT with absolutely no pressure. Waiting until Day 2 is fine with me. Waiting much longer than that if his play remains the same I think is stupid. | ||
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In terms of policy lynches there are better ones, so I'm expecting something from his content or reads to support your scumread. | ||
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On February 01 2015 16:09 Eden1892 wrote: Anyway my short list is actually LightningStrike and FecalFeast, but somebody was townreading LS for reasons I don't remember cause I didn't read. Maybe I should look into that. I especially don't remember anything about FF. LS I at least went "Oh yeah, that guy's in the game" for. FF I was like "...wait who?" I'm reading LS town this game. So are several others, including Damdred and SL. | ||
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On February 01 2015 16:13 sicklucker wrote: A guy trying to imitate chezunu. I cant think of anyone id rather policy lynch not even ff. He also tried to put scum on ls day one. Hes the easiest mislynch ever and its a scum tell 101 I thought it was you he scummed? xP All I remember was him asking someone about LS' alignment. I'm sorry, but I have a soft spot for players like my brother, Slam the Man, and chez. Give me something scummy. I actually really like the points he was making with his posts this game. Like I could quote the ones that I liked, if you want me to, cause there were at least a few. | ||
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On January 31 2015 07:08 Chezitwo wrote: Do you think this post makes LS likely to be a linux user? That just doesn't look like scumming to me, SL. He's asking you your read on LS. | ||
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On February 01 2015 16:31 Holyflare wrote: hey that damdred guy totally criticised me and then fucked off fu damdy lol, glad he did. you like a fight too much there, hf, even when it's serving no purpose xP that said, I've done the same thing myself. so meh I think palmar's a fine lynch, and better than an sl lynch. ff...meh. i'm not rereading filters at 0130 in the morning @.@ what I get out of them will probably make no sense in the light of day | ||
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