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On February 01 2015 05:04 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 04:48 Chezitwo wrote:
How so? The answers were clear and right here.
Can you point me to where I voted for Marv? You did not answer!!
Alright, back at you now. You're still ignoring the point that I came up with the conclusion and not you. Which is why I am not impressed. Also not impressed with all this activity going on, you're clearly in thread, Chez and you aren't really doing a whole lot.
On January 31 2015 20:23 Chezitwo wrote:marvellosity: Do you think Fecalfeast is a distro?
On January 31 2015 20:34 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 20:26 marvellosity wrote:On January 31 2015 20:23 Chezitwo wrote:marvellosity: Do you think Fecalfeast is a distro? maybe. he's always shit and useless. Looking at his other programs... It makes me sad. ##Unvote
Also my mistake on the thing with Marv, you ASKED him about Fecalfeast, but the gist of it stands - you just posted his filter. [/QUOTE]
I can only show you the fishing rod and the place where the fish are. I cannot eat your fish. Such is the way of the Chezitwo.
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Hello, I seem to have missed 30 pages. I don't have much time today either, at least not for another 8 hours or so. If I can't catch up, I will sheep marv or HF.
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On February 01 2015 18:30 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 18:30 Chezitwo wrote:
Hello, I seem to have missed 30 pages. I don't have much time today either, at least not for another 8 hours or so. If I can't catch up, I will sheep marv or HF. Hi Chezitwo. Do you mind reading and commenting on the case I posted two posts above your post?
Does a faulty device try to become favored, or would it settle to be average?
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On February 01 2015 18:49 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 18:47 Palmar wrote:
is holyflare really this mad that Damdred is smarter than him? First sicklucker, then Chezinu, then Palmar.... next thing you know, maybe Robik will come back. I will look at the Holyflare/Damdred interactions later. Palmar, who do you want to lynch?
Unfortunately I will be gone for some time, but I will return!
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On February 01 2015 18:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 18:43 Chezitwo wrote:On February 01 2015 18:30 Trfel wrote:On February 01 2015 18:30 Chezitwo wrote:
Hello, I seem to have missed 30 pages. I don't have much time today either, at least not for another 8 hours or so. If I can't catch up, I will sheep marv or HF. Hi Chezitwo. Do you mind reading and commenting on the case I posted two posts above your post? Does a faulty device try to become favored, or would it settle to be average? Chez the Chez. A faulty device may try to become favored if his programming is protected by a firewall that can only be... Lol I don't speak geek well enough for this. Statistically speaking he can go on being townread practically indefinitely as a claimed blue except under unusual circumstances, and as such, it's not a bad move for scum at all. Plus look at the specific role he claimed. Especially as godfather, but even as general scum, he can be overlooked without being required to do anything. This leads me to want to treat him as a general VT. And as a general VT, robik deserves death cause, as FF said...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Robik for lynch
Would a faulty device in league with other faulty devices present itself as a favored distro, then sit back without trying to upgrade itself? I am not sure...
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Hello friends! I am back. What can chezitwo do for you?
I have 40 pages to catch up to. In the meantime I will sheep marv.
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On February 02 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: Chezitwo
oh..
I thought you were my friend.
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Marv votes me and no one follows? I do not understand. Maybe it needs help.
##Unvote
##Vote Chezitwo
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On February 02 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 03:35 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: Chezitwo oh.. I thought you were my friend. Chezzy, your insta!meta-quotes and vote on Palmar caught Marv's attention after having to explain FF's play to you, and I'm inclined to think it's weird how quick they came, too. How do you know Palmar and not FF?
I am good at using the search function when I know what I am looking for. With Palmar, I remembered. With FF, I had nothing to remember.
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On February 02 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:Okay, damdy. Switching to Eden. Still want your response, Chez. I was townreading you. You're making me sad 
Why does my self vote make you think I am not?
On February 02 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 03:42 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:35 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: Chezitwo oh.. I thought you were my friend. Chezzy, your insta!meta-quotes and vote on Palmar caught Marv's attention after having to explain FF's play to you, and I'm inclined to think it's weird how quick they came, too. How do you know Palmar and not FF? I am good at using the search function when I know what I am looking for. With Palmar, I remembered. With FF, I had nothing to remember. How long have you been playing on this site, Chez?
Since the dawn of time.
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On February 02 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 03:49 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:Okay, damdy. Switching to Eden. Still want your response, Chez. I was townreading you. You're making me sad Why does my self vote make you think I am not? On February 02 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:42 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:35 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: Chezitwo oh.. I thought you were my friend. Chezzy, your insta!meta-quotes and vote on Palmar caught Marv's attention after having to explain FF's play to you, and I'm inclined to think it's weird how quick they came, too. How do you know Palmar and not FF? I am good at using the search function when I know what I am looking for. With Palmar, I remembered. With FF, I had nothing to remember. How long have you been playing on this site, Chez? Since the dawn of time. Your self-vote doesn't seem like a mafia play, but it's not a good town play either if you're town, imo. Well, gonna have to let the vets sort out the veracity of your claims on Palmar and FF. I've actually liked your play so far, so this and the long absence were really the only questionmarks. Do you have the time to catch up some and give us updated reads/comments?
How can those who are veterans assert whether these claims are correct when they do not even know who I am, let alone grasp how I might view both these players?
I will be present until deadline. I'm not sure if catching up or trying to participate in current conversation is a better use of my time.
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On February 02 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote:
I really want people to read my case read Edens filter.
I keep going back and Trfel whats so good about the pressure does it go anywhere? Is there any true conclusion about SL from it? does SL reasoning make sense for how it was dropped and eden just moved on to me?
I read it and I read Eden's filter.
I don't feel like he has been trying to find the poorly functioning programs between the distro's. He has been throwing up firewalls in front of himself and others, but he does not scan for malware. I am willing to uninstall him.
On February 02 2015 04:00 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 03:56 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:49 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:Okay, damdy. Switching to Eden. Still want your response, Chez. I was townreading you. You're making me sad Why does my self vote make you think I am not? On February 02 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:42 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:35 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: Chezitwo oh.. I thought you were my friend. Chezzy, your insta!meta-quotes and vote on Palmar caught Marv's attention after having to explain FF's play to you, and I'm inclined to think it's weird how quick they came, too. How do you know Palmar and not FF? I am good at using the search function when I know what I am looking for. With Palmar, I remembered. With FF, I had nothing to remember. How long have you been playing on this site, Chez? Since the dawn of time. Your self-vote doesn't seem like a mafia play, but it's not a good town play either if you're town, imo. Well, gonna have to let the vets sort out the veracity of your claims on Palmar and FF. I've actually liked your play so far, so this and the long absence were really the only questionmarks. Do you have the time to catch up some and give us updated reads/comments? How can those who are veterans assert whether these claims are correct when they do not even know who I am, let alone grasp how I might view both these players? I will be present until deadline. I'm not sure if catching up or trying to participate in current conversation is a better use of my time. I don't think you are among the top lynch candidates at the moment. I would prefer if you spend maybe an hour or so catching up, and then discuss closer to the deadline?
What do you think of me?
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On February 02 2015 04:07 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 04:04 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote:
I really want people to read my case read Edens filter.
I keep going back and Trfel whats so good about the pressure does it go anywhere? Is there any true conclusion about SL from it? does SL reasoning make sense for how it was dropped and eden just moved on to me? I read it and I read Eden's filter. I don't feel like he has been trying to find the poorly functioning programs between the distro's. He has been throwing up firewalls in front of himself and others, but he does not scan for malware. I am willing to uninstall him. On February 02 2015 04:00 Trfel wrote:On February 02 2015 03:56 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:49 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:Okay, damdy. Switching to Eden. Still want your response, Chez. I was townreading you. You're making me sad Why does my self vote make you think I am not? On February 02 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:42 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:35 Chezitwo wrote:
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oh..
I thought you were my friend. Chezzy, your insta!meta-quotes and vote on Palmar caught Marv's attention after having to explain FF's play to you, and I'm inclined to think it's weird how quick they came, too. How do you know Palmar and not FF? I am good at using the search function when I know what I am looking for. With Palmar, I remembered. With FF, I had nothing to remember. How long have you been playing on this site, Chez? Since the dawn of time. Your self-vote doesn't seem like a mafia play, but it's not a good town play either if you're town, imo. Well, gonna have to let the vets sort out the veracity of your claims on Palmar and FF. I've actually liked your play so far, so this and the long absence were really the only questionmarks. Do you have the time to catch up some and give us updated reads/comments? How can those who are veterans assert whether these claims are correct when they do not even know who I am, let alone grasp how I might view both these players? I will be present until deadline. I'm not sure if catching up or trying to participate in current conversation is a better use of my time. I don't think you are among the top lynch candidates at the moment. I would prefer if you spend maybe an hour or so catching up, and then discuss closer to the deadline? What do you think of me? Your playstyle makes it difficult. But I get the feeling that you are reading the game and putting some effort. Mostly, I feel that an extra day to read you would make the read far, far, far more accurate.
I find it weird that marv disagrees, yet his idea does not gain any traction. I am a potentially easy mislynch that no one will blame anyone for, yet no one pushes it through. If I weren't me I'd suspect me being mafia for it. Since I have unique information that this isn't the case, there are a few options;
1. Mafia is afraid of pushing me because I'm a wildcard.
2. The current leading wagons are also town.
3. Mafia has no thread presence/all current players discussing are town.
I'm not sure what to think.
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On February 02 2015 04:13 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 04:12 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 04:07 Trfel wrote:On February 02 2015 04:04 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote:
I really want people to read my case read Edens filter.
I keep going back and Trfel whats so good about the pressure does it go anywhere? Is there any true conclusion about SL from it? does SL reasoning make sense for how it was dropped and eden just moved on to me? I read it and I read Eden's filter. I don't feel like he has been trying to find the poorly functioning programs between the distro's. He has been throwing up firewalls in front of himself and others, but he does not scan for malware. I am willing to uninstall him. On February 02 2015 04:00 Trfel wrote:On February 02 2015 03:56 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:49 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:Okay, damdy. Switching to Eden. Still want your response, Chez. I was townreading you. You're making me sad Why does my self vote make you think I am not? On February 02 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:42 Chezitwo wrote:
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I am good at using the search function when I know what I am looking for. With Palmar, I remembered. With FF, I had nothing to remember. How long have you been playing on this site, Chez? Since the dawn of time. Your self-vote doesn't seem like a mafia play, but it's not a good town play either if you're town, imo. Well, gonna have to let the vets sort out the veracity of your claims on Palmar and FF. I've actually liked your play so far, so this and the long absence were really the only questionmarks. Do you have the time to catch up some and give us updated reads/comments? How can those who are veterans assert whether these claims are correct when they do not even know who I am, let alone grasp how I might view both these players? I will be present until deadline. I'm not sure if catching up or trying to participate in current conversation is a better use of my time. I don't think you are among the top lynch candidates at the moment. I would prefer if you spend maybe an hour or so catching up, and then discuss closer to the deadline? What do you think of me? Your playstyle makes it difficult. But I get the feeling that you are reading the game and putting some effort. Mostly, I feel that an extra day to read you would make the read far, far, far more accurate. I find it weird that marv disagrees, yet his idea does not gain any traction. I am a potentially easy mislynch that no one will blame anyone for, yet no one pushes it through. If I weren't me I'd suspect me being mafia for it. Since I have unique information that this isn't the case, there are a few options; 1. Mafia is afraid of pushing me because I'm a wildcard. 2. The current leading wagons are also town. 3. Mafia has no thread presence/all current players discussing are town. I'm not sure what to think. Another thing to consider is that marv voting on you is rather new to the thread and i'm trying to push eden through since then.
The idea has been softly pushed already though by Fecalfeast and HTS who have both voiced suspicions. There seemed to be willingness to start the wagon.
Also I'm a terrible Chezinu. I'm breaking character until the lynch I guess.
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Here's what I'm working with:
1. Marv is town because marv has rolled scum 3 games in a row or something and he's never going to try as hard as he has here.
2. Marv suspects me and marv is a smart player.
3. Marv's towngame is one of the if not the most respected game of people currently active.
4. Multiple people (FF, HTS) have already indicated a suspicion of me.
5. Marv votes me, it's unlikely that given the character I'm playing there'll be a good defense. No one would be blamed of a mislynch on me.
6. No one joins.
Why?
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On February 02 2015 04:21 Damdred wrote:
If we go down this line of t hought there are two distinct possibilities.
Mafia is not active in the thread when it was going on as you indicated earlier or mafia want to keep you around for a mislynch later as they think you can't clear yourself through play. If we assume you are town and marv is town anyway
You forgot the option where mafia don't care because all wagons are town. That's the one that worries me a little.
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On February 02 2015 04:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 04:12 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 04:07 Trfel wrote:On February 02 2015 04:04 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote:
I really want people to read my case read Edens filter.
I keep going back and Trfel whats so good about the pressure does it go anywhere? Is there any true conclusion about SL from it? does SL reasoning make sense for how it was dropped and eden just moved on to me? I read it and I read Eden's filter. I don't feel like he has been trying to find the poorly functioning programs between the distro's. He has been throwing up firewalls in front of himself and others, but he does not scan for malware. I am willing to uninstall him. On February 02 2015 04:00 Trfel wrote:On February 02 2015 03:56 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:49 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:Okay, damdy. Switching to Eden. Still want your response, Chez. I was townreading you. You're making me sad Why does my self vote make you think I am not? On February 02 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:42 Chezitwo wrote:
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I am good at using the search function when I know what I am looking for. With Palmar, I remembered. With FF, I had nothing to remember. How long have you been playing on this site, Chez? Since the dawn of time. Your self-vote doesn't seem like a mafia play, but it's not a good town play either if you're town, imo. Well, gonna have to let the vets sort out the veracity of your claims on Palmar and FF. I've actually liked your play so far, so this and the long absence were really the only questionmarks. Do you have the time to catch up some and give us updated reads/comments? How can those who are veterans assert whether these claims are correct when they do not even know who I am, let alone grasp how I might view both these players? I will be present until deadline. I'm not sure if catching up or trying to participate in current conversation is a better use of my time. I don't think you are among the top lynch candidates at the moment. I would prefer if you spend maybe an hour or so catching up, and then discuss closer to the deadline? What do you think of me? Your playstyle makes it difficult. But I get the feeling that you are reading the game and putting some effort. Mostly, I feel that an extra day to read you would make the read far, far, far more accurate. I find it weird that marv disagrees, yet his idea does not gain any traction. I am a potentially easy mislynch that no one will blame anyone for, yet no one pushes it through. If I weren't me I'd suspect me being mafia for it. Since I have unique information that this isn't the case, there are a few options; 1. Mafia is afraid of pushing me because I'm a wildcard. 2. The current leading wagons are also town. 3. Mafia has no thread presence/all current players discussing are town. I'm not sure what to think. I'd disregard #1, if only because I don't think anyone knows who you are? So the real question is if all the wagons are town, who is scum? Or is scum just not here right now?
The wildcard means they might not want to take the risk. There's also this thing called the Chezinu rule that states the first person to call Chezinu mafia that hasn't played with him before is always mafia.
These people have posted since Marv voted on me but before I came back: rsoultin, Trfel, HolyFlare, Damdred, Palmar. LS also ninja voted in the meantime.
I already townread Trfel and LS before. Damdred seems clearly town from how he's aggressively pushing things. rsoultin seems kinda town as well, leaving HF and Palmar open.
I guess it's definitely possible everyone that's been there is town. It'd help a lot in exonerating a town Palmar if Eden flipped scum.
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On February 02 2015 04:25 Trfel wrote:
I still feel like the mafia thread presence is low. I can't explain it. But that's what I think.
Unless of course it's Holyflare or a serious marvellosity....... but please please please let that not be true.
The chances that Marv is scum this game are extremely low.
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On February 02 2015 04:30 Trfel wrote:
Damdred is town because he claimed blue. Not sure if you saw that. I am confidently townreading marvellosity, though there is still a very small chance he is scum (and unless something happens to make me doubt him, I think that chance is so small I am willing to forfeit the game in that case).
Didn't see it. Named VT?
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On February 02 2015 04:30 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 04:26 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 04:23 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 04:12 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 04:07 Trfel wrote:On February 02 2015 04:04 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote:
I really want people to read my case read Edens filter.
I keep going back and Trfel whats so good about the pressure does it go anywhere? Is there any true conclusion about SL from it? does SL reasoning make sense for how it was dropped and eden just moved on to me? I read it and I read Eden's filter. I don't feel like he has been trying to find the poorly functioning programs between the distro's. He has been throwing up firewalls in front of himself and others, but he does not scan for malware. I am willing to uninstall him. On February 02 2015 04:00 Trfel wrote:On February 02 2015 03:56 Chezitwo wrote:On February 02 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 03:49 Chezitwo wrote:
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Why does my self vote make you think I am not?
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Since the dawn of time. Your self-vote doesn't seem like a mafia play, but it's not a good town play either if you're town, imo. Well, gonna have to let the vets sort out the veracity of your claims on Palmar and FF. I've actually liked your play so far, so this and the long absence were really the only questionmarks. Do you have the time to catch up some and give us updated reads/comments? How can those who are veterans assert whether these claims are correct when they do not even know who I am, let alone grasp how I might view both these players? I will be present until deadline. I'm not sure if catching up or trying to participate in current conversation is a better use of my time. I don't think you are among the top lynch candidates at the moment. I would prefer if you spend maybe an hour or so catching up, and then discuss closer to the deadline? What do you think of me? Your playstyle makes it difficult. But I get the feeling that you are reading the game and putting some effort. Mostly, I feel that an extra day to read you would make the read far, far, far more accurate. I find it weird that marv disagrees, yet his idea does not gain any traction. I am a potentially easy mislynch that no one will blame anyone for, yet no one pushes it through. If I weren't me I'd suspect me being mafia for it. Since I have unique information that this isn't the case, there are a few options; 1. Mafia is afraid of pushing me because I'm a wildcard. 2. The current leading wagons are also town. 3. Mafia has no thread presence/all current players discussing are town. I'm not sure what to think. I'd disregard #1, if only because I don't think anyone knows who you are? So the real question is if all the wagons are town, who is scum? Or is scum just not here right now? The wildcard means they might not want to take the risk. There's also this thing called the Chezinu rule that states the first person to call Chezinu mafia that hasn't played with him before is always mafia. These people have posted since Marv voted on me but before I came back: rsoultin, Trfel, HolyFlare, Damdred, Palmar. LS also ninja voted in the meantime. I already townread Trfel and LS before. Damdred seems clearly town from how he's aggressively pushing things. rsoultin seems kinda town as well, leaving HF and Palmar open. I guess it's definitely possible everyone that's been there is town. It'd help a lot in exonerating a town Palmar if Eden flipped scum. Hm. I'm inclined to think marv is town, too, just by how he's been interacting with me. (Both when he suspected me and just now.) HF's response to the suspicion was basically "hey, I was thinking that, too" yet I don't recall seeing anything further from him. That's probably the most suspicious reaction in-thread imo. Palmar I can't read. Trolling. I'd be happy to lynch him just so I don't have to think about him anymore, but the Eden case is decent and lines up with what I've been feeling about Eden all game.
I think scum Palmar would've plopped his vote on a townie if Eden were scum. He doesn't seem to give a shit, so mind as well promote a mafia agenda whilst not giving a shit.
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