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On March 07 2015 04:28 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 04:19 Tubesock wrote:
There is risk in cop checking town as mafia. Mafia needs a "confirmed" town so they have an excuse to night kill them instead of any town leading mafia. The risk is that that "check" flips ninja and then it was a 1vs1.
You fucking started talking about how we should kill a ninja first. You hunt ninja. WHY?
Look at the non obvious towns. Kurumi, Sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Batsnacks, me (who Rayne thought was ninja along with Obi), Oats, Onegu, Sepulchre, Slam, and Obi. I bet you thought about the odds of each of those players to flip ninja. Mafia QT probably decided Onegu was a safe bet, plus they could WIFOM how stupid it would be to fake a cellmate. More importantly, they need to protect against a 1 v 1. Getting a cell containing Sandroba was unlucky on mafia's part.
Mafia needs to reduce the odds of a claim flipping ninja. The claim also has to be believable.
Yet, you refuse to believe that there is a chance that none of the top towns are mafia, that all of them are bad or lurky. And also that if one of the top towns IS mafia then they are too stupid to know they have to plan to have an excuse they lived past night 2. Point 1. Complete fail. Confirmed townies are #3 on the list of people to kill. Always #3. Below Roles and people who are able to read the game well and push lynches. Like this is insane. Point 2. I've already explained this. Ninjas on D1 are worse for town than mafia are. It's counter intuitive, but if you remove a Ninja on D1, then you remove 3 KP that is very likely to hit town from the game. That's far more than you get from hitting mafia on D1. Point 3. That's a big list of people who are quite likely to be mafia. GJ if you're town because you're a retard if you believe this shit. Point 4. WAT? Point 5. I think that there are "top town" who could be mafia. Like Robik only started posting after I bugged him. He's also a good enough player to be "salty" after not getting his shot. He's also done reasonably little and isn't following any sort of common sense read that I've seen him use in video mafia. I just don't fucking care to talk about them today because there's literally no point in that right now. I can't lynch Robik today. Kita could be mafia. I really haven't bothered looking at his filter since D1.
10 suspects in a game with 8 nontowns is big? So, everyone should have only 8 suspects with full confidence in 100% accuracy? And funny that's not a town looking for mafia list. thats a mafia looking for ninja list.
Outside of the claim people think Sandroba is mafia. Both nk'd towns died scumming Sandroba. But you're fighting and not considering that those people were correct.
And if you die along with one of those I would suspect the remainder of being mafia. But they are not showing any indications that they will be saved somehow. You however are "towny" enough to have been given a gun by presumably the town spirit. You are already preemptively providing excuses for how you live. Robik and Kita are not even thinking about that.
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On March 07 2015 04:42 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 04:39 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2015 04:28 geript wrote:On March 07 2015 04:19 Tubesock wrote:
There is risk in cop checking town as mafia. Mafia needs a "confirmed" town so they have an excuse to night kill them instead of any town leading mafia. The risk is that that "check" flips ninja and then it was a 1vs1.
You fucking started talking about how we should kill a ninja first. You hunt ninja. WHY?
Look at the non obvious towns. Kurumi, Sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Batsnacks, me (who Rayne thought was ninja along with Obi), Oats, Onegu, Sepulchre, Slam, and Obi. I bet you thought about the odds of each of those players to flip ninja. Mafia QT probably decided Onegu was a safe bet, plus they could WIFOM how stupid it would be to fake a cellmate. More importantly, they need to protect against a 1 v 1. Getting a cell containing Sandroba was unlucky on mafia's part.
Mafia needs to reduce the odds of a claim flipping ninja. The claim also has to be believable.
Yet, you refuse to believe that there is a chance that none of the top towns are mafia, that all of them are bad or lurky. And also that if one of the top towns IS mafia then they are too stupid to know they have to plan to have an excuse they lived past night 2. Point 1. Complete fail. Confirmed townies are #3 on the list of people to kill. Always #3. Below Roles and people who are able to read the game well and push lynches. Like this is insane. Point 2. I've already explained this. Ninjas on D1 are worse for town than mafia are. It's counter intuitive, but if you remove a Ninja on D1, then you remove 3 KP that is very likely to hit town from the game. That's far more than you get from hitting mafia on D1. Point 3. That's a big list of people who are quite likely to be mafia. GJ if you're town because you're a retard if you believe this shit. Point 4. WAT? Point 5. I think that there are "top town" who could be mafia. Like Robik only started posting after I bugged him. He's also a good enough player to be "salty" after not getting his shot. He's also done reasonably little and isn't following any sort of common sense read that I've seen him use in video mafia. I just don't fucking care to talk about them today because there's literally no point in that right now. I can't lynch Robik today. Kita could be mafia. I really haven't bothered looking at his filter since D1. 10 suspects in a game with 8 nontowns is big? So, everyone should have only 8 suspects with full confidence in 100% accuracy? And funny that's not a town looking for mafia list. thats a mafia looking for ninja list. Outside of the claim people think Sandroba is mafia. Both nk'd towns died scumming Sandroba. But you're fighting and not considering that those people were correct. And if you die along with one of those I would suspect the remainder of being mafia. But they are not showing any indications that they will be saved somehow. You however are "towny" enough to have been given a gun by presumably the town spirit. You are already preemptively providing excuses for how you live. Robik and Kita are not even thinking about that. ![[image loading]](http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7e/7e05cfb0d554c683769a319b95183ccc84f74d226488b8f3de7bd00b240d2bc1.jpg)
hahaha that's awesome. I like my ride. I'll get some fuzzy dice for the mirror.
You're still not pushing to kill me. I'm clearly being a huge distraction and am trying my best to kill a uncc'd cop power guy who is clearly town. I have to be mafia. There is like no other possible explanation. 100%.
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On March 07 2015 04:47 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 04:45 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2015 04:42 geript wrote:On March 07 2015 04:39 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2015 04:28 geript wrote:On March 07 2015 04:19 Tubesock wrote:
There is risk in cop checking town as mafia. Mafia needs a "confirmed" town so they have an excuse to night kill them instead of any town leading mafia. The risk is that that "check" flips ninja and then it was a 1vs1.
You fucking started talking about how we should kill a ninja first. You hunt ninja. WHY?
Look at the non obvious towns. Kurumi, Sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Batsnacks, me (who Rayne thought was ninja along with Obi), Oats, Onegu, Sepulchre, Slam, and Obi. I bet you thought about the odds of each of those players to flip ninja. Mafia QT probably decided Onegu was a safe bet, plus they could WIFOM how stupid it would be to fake a cellmate. More importantly, they need to protect against a 1 v 1. Getting a cell containing Sandroba was unlucky on mafia's part.
Mafia needs to reduce the odds of a claim flipping ninja. The claim also has to be believable.
Yet, you refuse to believe that there is a chance that none of the top towns are mafia, that all of them are bad or lurky. And also that if one of the top towns IS mafia then they are too stupid to know they have to plan to have an excuse they lived past night 2. Point 1. Complete fail. Confirmed townies are #3 on the list of people to kill. Always #3. Below Roles and people who are able to read the game well and push lynches. Like this is insane. Point 2. I've already explained this. Ninjas on D1 are worse for town than mafia are. It's counter intuitive, but if you remove a Ninja on D1, then you remove 3 KP that is very likely to hit town from the game. That's far more than you get from hitting mafia on D1. Point 3. That's a big list of people who are quite likely to be mafia. GJ if you're town because you're a retard if you believe this shit. Point 4. WAT? Point 5. I think that there are "top town" who could be mafia. Like Robik only started posting after I bugged him. He's also a good enough player to be "salty" after not getting his shot. He's also done reasonably little and isn't following any sort of common sense read that I've seen him use in video mafia. I just don't fucking care to talk about them today because there's literally no point in that right now. I can't lynch Robik today. Kita could be mafia. I really haven't bothered looking at his filter since D1. 10 suspects in a game with 8 nontowns is big? So, everyone should have only 8 suspects with full confidence in 100% accuracy? And funny that's not a town looking for mafia list. thats a mafia looking for ninja list. Outside of the claim people think Sandroba is mafia. Both nk'd towns died scumming Sandroba. But you're fighting and not considering that those people were correct. And if you die along with one of those I would suspect the remainder of being mafia. But they are not showing any indications that they will be saved somehow. You however are "towny" enough to have been given a gun by presumably the town spirit. You are already preemptively providing excuses for how you live. Robik and Kita are not even thinking about that. hahaha that's awesome. I like my ride. I'll get some fuzzy dice for the mirror. You're still not pushing to kill me. I'm clearly being a huge distraction and am trying my best to kill a uncc'd cop power guy who is clearly town. I have to be mafia. There is like no other possible explanation. 100%. I'm not pushing to kill you because I don't think you're mafia. Hence the short bus.
So Sicklucker is 100% mafia. 100%. that's 100%.
there are 3 types of people in this world. Those you can count and those you can't.
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On March 07 2015 06:03 sicklucker wrote:
Well kurimis mafia. I think hes the most obvious mafia in the game atm. He even might have scum slipped
You're wrong. 1000%. You have put in 0 effort to read him. you have no idea what he is saying. If you did, you can't possibly think he's mafia.
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On March 07 2015 06:10 sicklucker wrote:
I dont want to understand what hes saying if his logic is to kill the green check and not the person claiming the green check
He explains it in ways. I was tempted to follow suit. I tried something else instead.
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On March 07 2015 06:10 sicklucker wrote:
I dont want to understand what hes saying if his logic is to kill the green check and not the person claiming the green check
Also, if you understood what he's really saying, then you'd understand what he's really doing and what that really means.
In any case, he's not getting lynched anytime soon.
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On March 07 2015 06:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I really don't know who to vote.
This is a problem.
Maybe if you posted some questions some of your town reads would comment and help you reach a conclusion.
Maybe break it down to a decision tree.
Check is real?
No, then vote Sandroba.
Yes, then who is more mafia Tube or SL? Vote more mafia. Or even less protown.
What's the struggle?
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On March 07 2015 06:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Fuck my life. The mechanics, I just don't even.
I'm switching. If sicklucker is town, I seriously am going to hate you all.
Better not me, I think Sicklucker will flip town.
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On March 07 2015 06:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Fuck my life. The mechanics, I just don't even.
I'm switching. If sicklucker is town, I seriously am going to hate you all.
I tried to explain to you that the mechanics don't matter. Mechanics can be abused and are definitely WIFOM.
Would it be better to have a situation that is true regardless of the mechanics or one that relies on some being X and not Y?
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On March 07 2015 06:41 sicklucker wrote:
Ok im positive Sandroba is mafia now considering how close this vote is. The bad news is I think im going to lose
Sorry bud, you're dying. There are two mafia on the Sandroba wagon that can switch to kill you.
Let me guess the reason:
Oh well I thought more and thought of course that is a true claim! It has to be! Mechanics!
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Also, for clarity I think HtS is town. I'm thinking of 2 others.
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On March 07 2015 06:46 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 06:28 Half the Sky wrote:On March 07 2015 06:27 kitaman27 wrote:
lol I've gone back and forth in my head so many times -_-
Voting SL.
I'm not trying to be cynical here, but did you flip a coin or are you going off the copcheck? You know what's funny? I did flip a coin earlier in the day and it told me to vote sandroba. I'm going against fate here XD I'm actually ignoring the cop check here. I think the cop check is legit, but a town spirit can give a role to any faction and I think sandroba probably claims the check as any faction. I know he didn't follow through, but sandroba claiming to shoot at the start of day one is a high risk policy as scum. sandroba is the type of player willing to make high risk players though which is why I'm back and forth so much. SL got really worked up after the cop check. I'm wondering if he felt that he would lose straight up against tube which is why he went strong against sandro. The whole "I didn't know about roles in this game so I'm town" thing still bothers me. As town your posts are genuine, but as mafia you can lose track of what you've said earlier. meh at least the deadline is interesting this cycle
This post is why Kithaman27 is Chairman of C.O.R.P.O.R.A.T.I.O.N.
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On March 07 2015 06:47 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 06:45 Tubesock wrote:
Also, for clarity I think HtS is town. I'm thinking of 2 others.
for clarity it probably makes most sense for you to actually name them
Mocsta and Oatsmaster.
Course it's possible Fecalfeast will do some weird assed yolo leap. But I've already said what I think of Fecal.
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I was hoping that Onegu was the ninja. And if I was right on Fecal he could have shuriken'd him and then both of them out of the game. It would also prove Sandroba is a liar, and we could glare at Geript.
But I'm wrong on the ninja's. That would have been so rad.
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Half the Sky.
Do you really believe that Sandroba wouldn't fakeclaim to save himself?
Isn't only having 2 claimed "roles" instead of 5 or 4 or whatever just as likely that there are 0?
Is your assessment of the odds that Sicklucker and Sandroba being mafia are equal and that the claim is the tiebreaker?
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On March 07 2015 07:03 sicklucker wrote:
Its acualy insane how easy this game is from my pov. Now that hts switched to her obvious mafia side everyone voting the other guy is kind of a town read like heres who I think mafia is.
The pretty likelys
Hts - For sure like that late switch mafia sees they need the number. Im also getting a tone read from her. Shes mad/frusterated at me. She has no reason to be. She gets really annoyed when shes under presure as scum Ive seen it firsthand.
Slam - His mind was made up before he made a post. He never considered other worlds other then the cop is real because he said so
Sepulchre - I ignored him because I thought he was confirmed ninja. Dont remember anything hes said and he also blindly followed the cop. Did not even participate left his vote early and peaced.
Oatsmaster - Holding his vote to the last possible second and keepin his options open. I dont like it since this is basically a deul between a town and mafia
Kurumi - Going by meta on what ive been told hes mafia when he trolls. There was also that weird thing where he singled out a certain player as the mafia spirit "mafia knows who there spirit is town does not" The fact hes wasting his vote in the most absurd manner confuses me. If onegus mafia that means soramis mafia so why not just vote sorami? why waste your vote in a 8-9 vote count currently?
onegus - Hes just mafia. Was like im green checked? cool vote sicklucker bye
The Might have tricked mes
Breskes - He goes out of his way to disagree with everything I say but Ive had some sick tells If I were to wage rid say town
Kita - My first read on him was mafia because someone said "I forgot kitas even in this game so hes confirmed mafia"
Like I dont think ive played with kita im not sure how he plays. Im not sure
Geript - Complete loon as town. But I dont see him getting angry at things he should be angry at.
Bats - ??????????
you're actually really wrong. You mean Obi instead of Oats, Oats has voted for some time. I don't really believe any of the rest of the reasonings either.
You can't be more wrong on Kurumi.
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On March 07 2015 07:06 sicklucker wrote:Tube if your town fight for me and see this through. And if your mafia to quote robik + Show Spoiler +GG Quitting mafia for awile
I'm trying. You're town.
Mafia will be here shortly to rile things up I'm sure.
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On March 07 2015 07:09 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 07:07 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2015 07:03 sicklucker wrote:
Its acualy insane how easy this game is from my pov. Now that hts switched to her obvious mafia side everyone voting the other guy is kind of a town read like heres who I think mafia is.
The pretty likelys
Hts - For sure like that late switch mafia sees they need the number. Im also getting a tone read from her. Shes mad/frusterated at me. She has no reason to be. She gets really annoyed when shes under presure as scum Ive seen it firsthand.
Slam - His mind was made up before he made a post. He never considered other worlds other then the cop is real because he said so
Sepulchre - I ignored him because I thought he was confirmed ninja. Dont remember anything hes said and he also blindly followed the cop. Did not even participate left his vote early and peaced.
Oatsmaster - Holding his vote to the last possible second and keepin his options open. I dont like it since this is basically a deul between a town and mafia
Kurumi - Going by meta on what ive been told hes mafia when he trolls. There was also that weird thing where he singled out a certain player as the mafia spirit "mafia knows who there spirit is town does not" The fact hes wasting his vote in the most absurd manner confuses me. If onegus mafia that means soramis mafia so why not just vote sorami? why waste your vote in a 8-9 vote count currently?
onegus - Hes just mafia. Was like im green checked? cool vote sicklucker bye
The Might have tricked mes
Breskes - He goes out of his way to disagree with everything I say but Ive had some sick tells If I were to wage rid say town
Kita - My first read on him was mafia because someone said "I forgot kitas even in this game so hes confirmed mafia"
Like I dont think ive played with kita im not sure how he plays. Im not sure
Geript - Complete loon as town. But I dont see him getting angry at things he should be angry at.
Bats - ?????????? you're actually really wrong. You mean Obi instead of Oats, Oats has voted for some time. I don't really believe any of the rest of the reasonings either. You can't be more wrong on Kurumi. I really don't understand this you think he is town yet you don't believe any of his reasoning's? Can you explain this a bit more?
It's POE. I also believe that if he were mafia he would have attacked me instead of Sandroba. It's possible like Kithaman27 said that he thought he'd lose to me, and go against the thread and everyone in it to fight a claim.
If he decided to go against the thread that would have meant that he didn't underestimate my towniness.
I'd be willing to bet that not a single one of you would have predicted I could project this towny. In his shoes I bet most all of you would have underestimated and attacked me. Why solo against the thread when you could try to bury me with the help of Geript?
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On March 07 2015 07:11 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2015 06:14 Tubesock wrote:On March 07 2015 06:10 sicklucker wrote:
I dont want to understand what hes saying if his logic is to kill the green check and not the person claiming the green check Also, if you understood what he's really saying, then you'd understand what he's really doing and what that really means. Do you feel that it is beneficial not to interpret what "he's really saying" for the rest of us?
Actually yes. You should also be able to see in my filter that I have already answered this question.
Why I don't explain it is actually answered in Geripts filter.
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