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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 07:44 GMT
#1470
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?

if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.

anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 07:46 GMT
#1471
On March 04 2015 16:40 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 16:34 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote:
I honestly can't catch up with how the thread is speeding and interact at the same time I'm not going to try to take the shot I believe because of that. (I'm moderatly caught up)

Geript, RS are really town, kit is as well. Your mom looks ok I think right now, Hts looks better.

I'd shoot oneg or sand I think


-shrugs-

Oh, I missed the YM reference in that post.

But still, that post is 10.5 hours before the deadline. When he comes back to thread 3 hours before the deadline, he does nothing to try to keep YM from getting shot.

Generally if a townie things someone else is town, they at least provide some reasons or try to have a discussion with the people wanting to lynch said person. Or at least try to push someone they do think is mafia instead.


That's true. Well, no worries lol >< I always suspect Damdred until he turns on his brilliant town light...he's really easy to call town once he starts playing like a boss, and there are like...5 other scum if he's scum.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 07:57 GMT
#1472
okay, double-checked on time and context

2.5 hours, not seeing rayn in the thread at the time that damdred was there. damdred may be scum, but I don't think it's for that reason, keir
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 08:03 GMT
#1474
On March 04 2015 16:58 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?

if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.

anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game


Why do you think I'm not playing?

I wasn't in the game, but I read one of Sickluckers scum games and the difference I thought was I was less irritated at him. He seemed more coherent and less crazy assed "plays". Imperial as town SL soft and hard claimed cop I think it was and it was such a ridiculously bad play it really turned the thread upside down. In Carol he was constantly talking presents and doing weird shit with Holyflare.

He's been so agreeable this game. It's weird. No plays, no guys do this then we are in auto...or any crazy thoughts. Like every post makes sense on the first read.


I'll reread your filter, Tube, but from what I recall most of your game presence was trying to organize a shot...something which is more towny to me than scummy, but not if you're not contributing much else lol. With the personalities in this game, a shot at deadline is kinda inevitable, but having people actively talking about it and taking stances was pro-town so I was happy to encourage it.

Yeah that's kinda the vibe I'm getting. LS asked me if SL making sense is a scum tell, and I'm not sure that it is, but he really does make me want to stab things most times when he's town cause of all the crazy. Plus, I mean, not trying to shoot anyone doesn't feel like SL to me. He picked a player I consider to be clear town (geript) pushing a mostly undisputed shot (koshi) and championed that. Super safe play. Then had no one as a back-up.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 08:11 GMT
#1478
Lol I should have looked at your filter earlier.

Rsoul does not approve of killing Tube tomorrow <3 Do you have an opinion on sepu or damdred, while I've got you in-thead.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 08:16 GMT
#1481
On March 04 2015 17:10 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 16:57 rsoultin wrote:
okay, double-checked on time and context

2.5 hours, not seeing rayn in the thread at the time that damdred was there. damdred may be scum, but I don't think it's for that reason, keir

Oh, for some reason when you quoted that post, it changed the time stamp back to TL time instead of local time. So that post where he said "YM looks okay" or whatever was after the time I was looking at where he came back ot thread.

Stupid TL time stamps fucking with me.

Anyways, I do still think it's weird that his only thoughts on YM were "YM looks okay" then "YM didn't look bad, what was the malfunction" even without time context. Like he gave no reasons for why LM looked "okay" or anything, then was upset when rayn shot him. Except he didn't even really seem to care very much to question rayn about the shot or whatever. Just feels kind of forced.

Maybe I'm just reading too hard into it now since I started talking about it. I'll sleep on it and see what I'm feeling tomorrow.


Hm...in context YM was super active at the time of his post. I get what you're saying about his response after the flip, though...seems a bit strong for something he didn't seem to have a strong opinion about before the flip.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 08:30 GMT
#1488
i think toad recanted that later, if I recall. the robik is faking it thing

lol i'm feeling better about keir right now, but he's kind of in the same cat as mocsa for me. I know that I just like them cause they're interacting with me and I can follow their reasoning

sl, i'm not ignoring you...what was it about damdred and breshke that had you wanting to shoot them? (and lol...dude, carol was a clusterfuck and you didn't help ; I learned to listen to people's reads even if their reasoning didn't make sense, though, so you taught me something xP)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 08:38 GMT
#1491
On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?

if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.

anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game



No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads.

Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie.

I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point.


Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn.

Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 08:41 GMT
#1492
On March 04 2015 17:37 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote:
I honestly can't catch up with how the thread is speeding and interact at the same time I'm not going to try to take the shot I believe because of that. (I'm moderatly caught up)

Geript, RS are really town, kit is as well. Your mom looks ok I think right now, Hts looks better.

I'd shoot oneg or sand I think


This is his most useful post. Then he says that he likes SL which probably means he's mafia. (probably where I got the idea from). Then he starts complaining about the quick pace of the game and how he can't catch up.

Course, I think this is at least the third game I've read where he whines about that both as scum and town.


Anyone specifically you want me to look at? I've been just sending people about looking into filters like little minions without asking where anyone else is lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 08:50 GMT
#1497
Lol um...is that connected or two separate points on Damdred? Cause I don't think anyone was saying you should be shot so him not doing anything about calling you town doesn't mean anything, but as separate points I could kinda see it. What's wrong with him calling you town? (Kinda read that as him thinking you were scum cause you seemed townie, which I can kinda get)

Bresh isn't playing his mafia game. Meta. Tone. What have you, but he's not. I can take a look at his filter and see if I'm wrong, but not getting a scum vibe off him.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 09:04 GMT
#1502
sandroba was another I don't really have a read on yet

if you've got thoughts on keir, I'd like to hear them, tube. also lol...in a game of so many players, the difference between top and third town is kinda miniscule

bresh, I know you don't often get many scumreads day 1, but I personally don't mind townreads and reasons as much as other players seem to. can I get a spot check on where you're at right now?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 09:06 GMT
#1503
just the most important ones is perfectly fine

sl, you too, man. usually you're a little more all over the place, and there's so many players to dog right now
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 09:15 GMT
#1506
On March 04 2015 05:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 05:42 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:37 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kita how do you not know how Koshi plays as town against how he plays scum?


Don't recall a mafia koshi game that I participated in off the top of my head aside from game of thrones, which was too long ago to be memorable.


Sure I guess, but how can you not see the differences between Carol and now?

=/


To apply the meta correctly, his behavior this game would need to reflect his mafia behavior. Him playing differently than a previous town game doesn't suggest that he is mafia, which is why I asked.

Since you seem to be familiar, is there a mafia game or two I should be looking at to draw comparisons?

Also, based on your post you seem to suggest that you think koshi is mafia. You mentioned earlier that you were unhappy about his inactivity, but haven't mentioned him since. Is he your preferred shot target?


Okay, that makes sense to me.

Check out Horn of Africa. What was left of Golden Sun and Glory Seeker might also be good checks, though they're both really old.

I'd say that Koshi might be my preferred shot but meh. I can't say I'm hyper interested in today's shot specifically because one of the more passionate players (geript, rayn, robik) are probably going to shoot someone asap and I don't have the same kind of conviction they do atm.

(Though I read robik's post on shooting batsnacks and I might be inclined to agree with that. Batsnacks behaving like a ghost is more indicative of scum than town in my experiences.)


Okay so I liked the beginning of OWS' filter, and even the post that sepu pointed out just because of how it developed and he had a tone townread on HtS early. This post though is probably one of my favorites, purely on tone, cause I completely felt the way he did in the second-to-last paragraph and honesty like that usually makes me think town.

Plus he goes on to push for a bats shot a few times.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 09:25 GMT
#1513
On March 04 2015 18:13 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 18:04 rsoultin wrote:
sandroba was another I don't really have a read on yet

if you've got thoughts on keir, I'd like to hear them, tube. also lol...in a game of so many players, the difference between top and third town is kinda miniscule

bresh, I know you don't often get many scumreads day 1, but I personally don't mind townreads and reasons as much as other players seem to. can I get a spot check on where you're at right now?


haha yeah I thought I was being really funny when I said Geript is my third towniest person.

I've reread Keirathi like 3 times. I really really like his thought processes and questions of people. But I'm also realizing I need to reread again because I can't remember his reads. maybe it's because they're not listed, I'm assuming he's scumming Sepulchre and Batsnacks? Who is he interested in?


lol that's why I like keir. duh. bats, sepulchre and damdred are the ones I'm ehhhh about too.

So i'm just gonna make a reads list cause it's getting late and at any point of time I might just go to bed cause I'm tired.

Geript, Rayn, Tube, Toad, Slam...tch tch tch most sure of as town

also like Breshke, LS, Robik, Keir, Mocsta this game for reasons that are less solid

lots of ehs and mehs with several other players, but if I had a gun with unlimited bullets, ones I'd feel very comfortable shooting right now cause I think they're probably mafia are:

bats, sepu, damdred

additionally have some issues with
A.T. (his contributions just aren't contributions, and this late in the game I'd expect some), sandroba (forgettable), sicklucker (kinda like some of the points bresh brought up against him, plus my own feels)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 09:30 GMT
#1516
On March 04 2015 18:20 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:
On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?

if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.

anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game



No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads.

Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie.

I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point.


Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn.

Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town?



Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming.


Hmmm...I have a hard time seeing geript as scum. Last time our early game reads were this close we were both town. That said...I could just have terribad reads lol, wouldn't be the first time. I dunnae. Don't let me forget this about geript if he still bugs you later, okay?

Like, I can't really read you well, but I know that inactivity/low activity isn't alignment indicative for you, so you're not topping my scum list now that you're playing a bit more.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 09:36 GMT
#1519
lol I think FF may be town but he's in the doghouse with me

bad FF for calling me scum, bad FF

he really has been very fluid with his reads this game, though, and it may just be bias talking here, but scum don't usually scumread strong towns. i'm not the most adamant/vocal this game but i'm definitely not your classic low-hanging fruit lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 09:39 GMT
#1520
On March 04 2015 18:33 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul is the only reason you like mocsta because he actually talked things out with you?

If LS is town then mocsta's read on bats makes little sense. He thinks bats is not mafia for sitting on the sidelines when the shot was between a town (your mom) and LS. Even if LS is mafia i don't see how he comes to the conclusion that bats is not mafia.


yeah that's literally the only reason ^^; I don't know mocsta from adam but he went looking through filters for me and what he came up with mirrored some of my reads
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 09:59 GMT
#1523
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 11:38 GMT
#1527
On March 04 2015 20:04 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 18:59 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.

Its pretty simple.

I got the vibe that he is holding back.
At the same time, when he posts, its quite relaxed.

THATS THE CONNUNDRUM.

Most people that try to post relaxed (as mafia) come across as try-hard. Not Batsnacks.

I get: intentionally not contributing/withholding, but relaxed.

==> Potential samurai enemy or useless town.

I'm giving him benefit of the doubt, and scratching useless town.



Why am I still up? @.@

Uh...I dunnae. How hard is it to look relaxed in like...5 posts? Granted I'm not good at it, but I don't think it's enough to clear him at all, you know?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 16:30 GMT
#1592
lol pride?

RAYN GERIPT MEANIES YOU NO WANT MY INPUT?! <- is how I'd do it

apparently mocsta throws sulky fits

-rolls around the thread-

i'd give input here but honestly I don't know how useful that whole convo was...except maybe about robik. also, damdy looks better to me after some of his posts, so I guess we can keep him around a little longer xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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