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On March 04 2015 18:22 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 18:20 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?
if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.
anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads. Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie. I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point. Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn. Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town? Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming. I kinda relate to the not enough gut churning, but you don't have 1 person you don't like?
Oops I missed this. You mean Geript is mafia. Other reasonings?
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On March 04 2015 18:24 Onegu wrote:Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. + Show Spoiler +Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming.
Messed up the format in my last post. I read the bolded as you scumming Geript. Is there more to this? I fully expect mafia!geript to fool me. Like, I can't see a world where I would think he's mafia from his posting. I'll only believe it when he's still alive D3 or something. How do you read Geript?
I could get behind a bats or brkshe lynch. Kita isn't exactly giving me gooey feelings either.
Bats is the only person I am really willing to lynch. Sicklucker too I suppose. But why Breshke? I'm having trouble because I think we are mind melded. I do agree that Breshke hasn't really done anything. You have something new to add?
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On March 04 2015 20:04 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 18:59 rsoultin wrote:Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town  specially Day 1. He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me. Its pretty simple. I got the vibe that he is holding back. At the same time, when he posts, its quite relaxed. THATS THE CONNUNDRUM. Most people that try to post relaxed (as mafia) come across as try-hard. Not Batsnacks. I get: intentionally not contributing/withholding, but relaxed. ==> Potential samurai enemy or useless town. I'm giving him benefit of the doubt, and scratching useless town.
I'm stuck on him pushing for a shot at the last minute. Basically, egging on one of the more zealous towns (Hi Rayne!/Robik!). Then he doesn't, like gah it just makes me mad.
When you read it, what were your impressions?
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I'd protect Rayne if I could 10/10 times and would do it again.
On March 05 2015 03:38 geript wrote:@Kita. Regarding Tube. I had to go back and look at my summary of the Newbie game and his filter. On length it's about what I expect. He's under similar pressure in that game too IIRC. There are a few things that I note that are quite different. First, in the newbie game while his filter isn't great he has some real gems of insight here and there. Things that really show how he's thinking about the game. Not just the "If everyone's scumreading Shining" post but more like: Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 11:17 Tubesock wrote:
Even if you read Rsoultin's legacy concerning Silverarte it's like she doesn't want to insult her by calling her mafia since they are friends. There isn't a single towny word in Rsoultin's paragraph about Silver.
Like it's a really interesting thought. But I'm not really seeing anything like that this game. That's pretty remarkable to me. This was after Rsoultin died N2, so of course I had more opinions than I do during N1 (after a shortened day...)Second, in the newbie game he's reasonably opinionated. Like he makes points on people and interacts a bunch. Like almost all of his posts are to someone. I'm going to try and be specific about this but his posts are to the person in relation to the conversation they are having in the thread at that time. Like there's an intended back and forth. Where as this game it's far more of posting at people. Like he's interested in saying something but not in actually conversing or having that back and forth. I've conversed with you and Rsoultin. More extensively with Rsoultin though. That newbie game was really slow and here a lot of people are talking, and I didn't feel I had anything to add. See my responses to your questions for instance. Third, I remember one of the heuristics used in Boardwalk revolved around who made plans and why. In Boardwalk, there were numerous plans based around picking numbers and what should be drafted where, etc. But I specifically remember someone talking about how mafia were more likely to propose a plan and just let it die. As I recall, I think it ended up getting a mafia lynched; I think it was part of why Gonzaw suspected Artanis. Either way, what I find interesting about his Votecount thing is that he doesn't really push it. He both likes and understands my "people cleared to shoot" list. But unlike, Rayn or me that game there was no constant revision in order to generate a better plan. There wasn't really any pushing for finding the best plan. It's more of a "I'm doing something plan but I don't really care about it." I don't think anyone can say with a straight face that no matter how much effort I put in for my plan that you, Rayne, Robik, AND Sicklucker would have followed it. Even Sandroba said he was going to shoot but it was early enough to be a possible reaction bait type comment. So, what would have been the point? Plus, several people were like the quote you posted below say "Tube, I'd rather hear your reads. ...you hiding behind that list." Fourth, This post: Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:On March 04 2015 03:51 your mom wrote:On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:On March 04 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Tube, I'd rather hear your reads. Your idea wasn't terrible, but the longer you hide behind that list, the more townie points you're losing. Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit. Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan). Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him. Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him. rayns arguments are that i scumread people off a few posts before looking at the entire game, and keep scumreading them for those posts (which is supposed to make the whole "fabricated") now point me to the part you find convincing please. rayn called me mafia on the get go so he couldnt have thought that i was mafia cause stubborn, since it was shortly after game start and before i went to bed. he called me mafia after i woke up today for reasons. but the first time he calls me mafia, do you see a reason for it? I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet. Geript is doing stuff and interacting a lot. He grilled Epiphany (still even but more politely). He doesn't appear to be afraid to say anything and is pushing an agenda. There's some things he's done that seemed scummy (pushing for chaos with plan rejection and not pushing an alternative, pushing the ninja stuff) but that stuff is either outweighed by or explained by his other actions. It's definitely possible he's scum, but we can't shoot him today. No way. What I find interesting about this post is that finding reasons to call me mafia but doesn't push them. What's more important is he's both buddied me pretty hard at points and both before and after this calls me obvious town. Like that's really, really weird.
You've done a lot of towny looking things. I think you'd be a bad shot D1 a bad lynch D2 if you survive the night. If you do survive say night 2 then I will relook at the scummy things you've done and weight them over your towny stuff. Why is it weird that I waffle on a guy who in a previous game said he had a 90% mafia win rate? Right now you're too useful to town to kill.
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Hey! But I'm here...you have no response to my response?
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Toad, as you null me, do you have anything you want me to clear up?
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On March 05 2015 06:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yo has anyone considered the possibility of tubesock being a ninja?
I think it's entirely possible.
I wish.
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On March 05 2015 06:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Ain't got much time these days
Update me real quick what has happened
Geript got in another shitfest with Rayne because Rayne doesn't believe him. Rayn actually said legit things, while Geript was more fuck you motherfucker youre dumb.
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On March 05 2015 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tubesock i am going to be honest with you.
You just wasted your first shot. You need to decide whether to shoot sandroba or Damdred here. One of those is the other ninja, and geript is going to shoot you anyways tonight. Tough life, too little time. Use it wisely.
I would never have shot Rsoultn. Like, she was pretty much my only ally who has any credit or standing. Last night we really worked together, shooting her drops my life expectancy don't you think?
The others who think I'm town are Breshke and Slam. Not exactly ones who are going to be able to go toe to toe with you or Geript.
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On March 05 2015 06:26 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2015 06:23 Alakaslam wrote:On March 05 2015 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 05 2015 06:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Ain't got much time these days
Update me real quick what has happened MAFFFYAAAAA Nvm then, lynch me out sooner or later? also would you prefer to be shot? Sure use a shuriuken I don't care really. If you decide to leave me in activity should pick back up Friday.
I really hope you stay. You're literally my favorite person on this website. Having you in this game is a bonus game just trying to figure out the game AND figuring you out. You're like this fantastic puzzle. I love it.
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On March 05 2015 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 06:26 Tubesock wrote:
I would never have shot Rsoultn. Like, she was pretty much my only ally who has any credit or standing. Last night we really worked together, shooting her drops my life expectancy don't you think?
what does this have anything to do with her being a ninja or not? Like if you think she is the other ninja do you leave here alive so you can never win the game or what?
That didn't occur to me, I don't see how anyone thinks she was a ninja because she said something about 1 shot vs 2 shot shurikens and some vet said she's ninja. I don't understand how that's solid enough reasoning to think she's a ninja. I'd rather live longer and gain more information.
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On March 05 2015 06:38 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 06:23 Tubesock wrote:On March 05 2015 06:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Ain't got much time these days
Update me real quick what has happened Geript got in another shitfest with Rayne because Rayne doesn't believe him. Rayn actually said legit things, while Geript was more fuck you motherfucker youre dumb. Anything else interesting?
Where are you this game? Why are you so aloof?
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In case in the off chance I do die...
I think waiting on lynching Geript till D3 isn't a bad idea. He certainly seems obvious town. But again, he's supposed to have a 90% mafia winrate. So, yeah in no world will he actually look that scummy.
1. He started and egged on that fight early D1 with Raynepelikoneet. That fight made me town Rayne because he was able to say this is a wasteful fight without backing down. Geript get going, all about a previous game. Bigtime waste.
2. Being ok with Slam RNGing the lynch and rejecting my plan were both chaos favored. He mentioned a mayor type election which I could have gotten behind for theoretical time lengthening he never pursued nor pushed it. Because he knew that someone was going to shoot at deadline. He just didn't want town in control for a possible mafia hit.
3. Read Rayn's comments just before N1 ends. (I do think that a town!Geript would not forsee or be prepared for a modkill koshi and then not be ready to shoot but argue that amongst yourselves.)
4. While he pushes people like with Koshi, 2 of his cases are on low hanging fruit. Like Epiphany could not have had a worse entrance. Almost no one was townreading me (Slam, Breshke, later Rsoultin and finally Rayne).
5. I responded to his case, and he was around but he avoided me. I guess that's not that weird, but it makes me think of how mafiaHolyflare treated me in Carol. He would say something and then I'd respond and he'd vanish to come back to later fight with Sicklucker that game.
6. I'm probably missing it, but Geripts sole read is based on Raynepelikoneets willingness to town him. If he doesn't then Geript goes apeshit. Rayne who I thought has a reputation for being angry wasn't losing his cool at all. Geript never provided any facts against Rayne. Just F YOU! MFER!!! blah blah.
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Sicklucker, why are you towning me? You know I'm probably voting you right?
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On March 05 2015 08:47 sicklucker wrote:
Then your a moron. Im towning you because you tried to organize that garbage. Its enough to keep you over two guys who have not done anything that rayn called scum.
Also he literraly just slipped and spewed us both town....
Toad scummed Sandroba also.
I'm not sure what to think about that claim. Geript did say that he theorized that one of the spirits can insta read Sandroba and would grant him powers.
Course, I'm suspicious of Geript and am fully aware that he would set up a play to have mafiamate Sandroba fakeclaim. Get's "confirmed" town for being "townread" by that spirit. WIFOM WIFOM but this shit is what makes my Tinfoil Hat Theories FUN!
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On March 05 2015 08:55 sicklucker wrote:
The claim is literraly a scum or a ninja slip "if he thinks im a ninja and wants to get me lynched which this check would do"
Why are there not 15 votes on him?
Now way. Geript is going to sweep in and be all "I TOLD YOU GUYS!!!! Here:
On March 03 2015 09:04 geript wrote:
Also. I'm pretty sure I have a foolproof way to read Sandroba. It's actually quite interesting.
On March 04 2015 04:37 geript wrote:
Ok so basically it boils down to 1 simple thing. Syllogism is in this game. There's literally no one in the world that has ever or will ever read Sandroba as well as Syllogism. So if we leave Sandro alive N1 and he doesn't receive a power, then we auto lynch him. If he does receive a power, we evaluate both his use of it and what power was given. Like it's complete win/win.
and finish with "Bow to your Geript town master!"
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Yes bad reasonings and probably crackheaded but I fully believe this shit. It's such an easy world to see.
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On March 05 2015 09:02 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so I didnt know spirits can buy roles for people. (THATS HOW YOU KNOW IM TOWN)
Also we dont know Syllogism is even the town spirit so thats all speculation.
I still think its fake and too convenient he gets a green check with a guy hes in a cell with.
Which is another weird thing for Geript to say what he did about the magic Syllo read. Like we can't verify it.
What's the most likely play?
1) Syllo IS town Spirit AND reads Sandroba AND gives him a power?
2) Sandroba sees what Geript said and goes "hmmm, I can cover for being kinda lurky, "check" another lurky player (didn't really even have to be in the cell but even luckier in cell) and turn this into a 2 person duel?
3) Geript doesn't have to be mafia in this but he sure helped this play.
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##Vote: Sandroba
by the way.
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On March 05 2015 09:12 geript wrote:
Kiat Im surround by stupid poeplo an d mafia. Sav eme!!111
Then stop being an ass and try talking to people without saying how stupid they are.
Tell me how my scenario is LESS likely than what you set up intentionally or unintentionally.
Obviously this would heavily implicate you, but it's not at all impossible that you did it as town unknowingly. But then I think you've done other mafia things too so it adds to SCUMMY SCUM SCUMMY MAFIA.
I'm pretty stupid as you can see, so you'll have to explain it in small words and short sentences.
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