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actually I take back what I said about robik... there's one post that almost proves that he's town at this point
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On March 04 2015 08:47 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote:
@Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba
I want you to post your thoughts on the following people:
Obiwanshinobi
Batsnacks
Sepulchre
Onegu
Oatsmaster
Toad you can chime in on this too. I want to bounce ideas off of people and these are the people I'm the least sure of right now.
all pretty much in the same boat for being under the radar. I wouldn't be able to distinguish between any of them readwise atm. Would make for good vig shots in general if we have any.
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On March 04 2015 09:02 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 09:00 Toadesstern wrote:On March 04 2015 08:47 geript wrote:On March 04 2015 08:41 geript wrote:
@Damdred, Rayn, Kita and Sandroba
I want you to post your thoughts on the following people:
Obiwanshinobi
Batsnacks
Sepulchre
Onegu
Oatsmaster
Toad you can chime in on this too. I want to bounce ideas off of people and these are the people I'm the least sure of right now. all pretty much in the same boat for being under the radar. I wouldn't be able to distinguish between any of them readwise atm. Would make for good vig shots in general if we have any. You don't think sep is town?
nope, I in fact said I wouldn't mind shooting him a couple hours before the deadline.
He is emotional and seems convinced about what he's saying all right but he's a smurf so I'd expect him to be able to look that way.
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oh wait, I think I mistook him for someone else. let me check
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On March 04 2015 09:09 sandroba wrote:
Sorry man I'd disagree on that one. That big wall of reads he made does not look like stream of consciousness at all and is the sole reason I'm pursuing this.
you are right, I did indeed mix up names there...
+ Show Spoiler [sicklucker] +On March 04 2015 05:32 Toadesstern wrote:sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now. Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like: Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:
Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.
It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.
1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.
2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.
3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.
4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).
1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus 2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p 3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah. 4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him? On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.
I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you. Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour. You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up. Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post. Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help. I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid. I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way. Confirmed town or mafia smurf! what's that even telling us Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything. It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo.
gimme some time to look at that guy in that case 
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On March 04 2015 09:17 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:On March 04 2015 09:09 sandroba wrote:
Sorry man I'd disagree on that one. That big wall of reads he made does not look like stream of consciousness at all and is the sole reason I'm pursuing this. you are right, I did indeed mix up names there... + Show Spoiler [sicklucker] +On March 04 2015 05:32 Toadesstern wrote:sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now. Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like: Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:
Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.
It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.
1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.
2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.
3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.
4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).
1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus 2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p 3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah. 4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him? On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.
I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you. Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour. You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up. Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post. Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help. I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid. I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way. Confirmed town or mafia smurf! what's that even telling us Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything. It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo. gimme some time to look at that guy in that case You quoted the post I was responding to rsoultin so I don't know if you got it right. To be clear I think sepuclchre is town and LS is scum.
yeah wanted to quote myself, the post above that...
so
Sandro: Toad you don't think sep is town?
Toad: No I think he's mafia
Toad: wait no... I think I mixed up names... yep it's this sicklucker dude I considered to be mafia
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On March 04 2015 09:23 rsoultin wrote:
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except he does these list posts as town so y'all didn't actually find anything? someone asked him for his updated reads and he gave them in the form of a list
whatever, keep being dumb robik lol
give this guy a medal please, You made me look at his filter and he answered a question that reads "yo, gimme updates on all of your reads you had so far". If he's not downright ignoring that question that's bound to end in some kind of list one way or the other, even if he leaves out half of his reads because he considers them unimportant.
The fact that he did not focus on the changes he consideres important and gave a list of fucking everything is the only thing bad about that post imo.
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yeah Breshke needs some lynching coming for him.
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On March 04 2015 17:18 sicklucker wrote:
who was it that was so sure robik was faking it?
That was me. I still think he faked it, just that he did it for some convoluted town plan. There's just simply one post that shows that it has no mafia motivation to it.
Other than that however, there's just no way someone's that stupid. On top of that he even lied about it being copy&pasted because had he copy&pasted it, that mistake would not have happened... so yes, I'm fairly sure that was a fake and he knows how to type in allcaps to look all dramatic. There's all kinds of bad things you can say about robik but if there's one positive thing you can say about him it's that he knows how to do that.
You later on said that we should lynch me because of my stance on it being fake. Can you explain why? Usually it tends to be mafias that just eat any kind of claim and go with it (unless they know it to be fake like a fake-RB when mafia has no RB), ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A TRUE ONE AS YOU SEEM TO BE ARGUING, because they know it's correct while townies tend to be the one sceptical more often then not.
What would the reason for mafia!anyone be if they know that town!Koshi is indeed not mafia and thus get in the thread to tell people you don't believe him despite knowing that he's town? Furthermore, what would be the reason for mafia!anyone be not just to do that but to go out of his way and call him a stupid townie? Not a mafia who's lying but some townie who did some weird shit for some weird reason and who knows why.
What would the reason for mafia!anyone be if they know that mafiabuddy!Koshi is indeed mafia and thus get in the thread to tell people you don't believe him? That's heat for you as well as your ally.
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kita looks a little better lately. Not to the point that he's omg-he-has-to-be-town so no VE's balls betting on that but he should not be on that list of rayn anymore.
Sandro has done more but I'm not sure I like what he's done... still pretty scummy for me but I'm willing to wait a little more until I'm more certain on it or until he gets shot. If he is indeed town, mafia will take care of him soon enough because he's scary as town while not being particularly scary as mafia. No need to be concerned about him either way right now imo (sry Sandroba  ). So still belongs on that list but not really a priority.
batsnacks belongs on that list.
Breshek... I'm not sure. I really think he's mafia but that'd make no sense with Sandroba being mafia so... meh
I agree with rayn that I don't think LightningStrike is particularly scummy, in fact he looks fairly townish. I have a tendency to think people who defend me are mafia and he did defend me or at least call me town early on alongside HTS but that's all I've got against him. And those two were in Hammertime as host/player so it's actually reasonable to make those statements from their pov imo.
Rayn and Robik are obviously town but won't do shit tomorrow because they're both emo. Let's just hope mafia shoots one of them
Out of the "vets" that I'm not entirely sure about: Kita / Sandro / Keirathi it's Kita > Keirathi > Sandro, from townish to mafiaesque.
Not sure if I can get a last second post in so take that from me for what it's worth. I obviously have more townreads but they're not worth talking about, unlike Rayn / Robik / Kita for reason being "get off them" for the first two, and my change of stance on the latter one.
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On March 05 2015 00:42 kitaman27 wrote:
Toad where are you at in regards to Tube?
have not really looked at him yet, just arrived back at my place
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On March 05 2015 00:42 kitaman27 wrote:
Toad where are you at in regards to Tube?
On March 03 2015 10:43 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 08:57 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 08:51 Alakaslam wrote:What if I rando shoot for the  of BH? I'm actually very okay with this. Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 10:00 geript wrote:
I'm not voting to shoot someone. Unless this ear infection turns into Ebola overnight, I will be shooting someone. It's a matter of figuring out who's the best shot. Does the progression from being ok with a random shooting to "I'm not voting to shoot someone....I will be shooting someone." bug anyone but me?
while obviously wrong, the guy is reading the thread enough to remember something like this. slightly townish for me, mafias don't actually read the thread
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I don't wanna talk with geript
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On March 05 2015 01:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kita, geript and Keirathi. Also toad. I am home in 1,5gh. Theen let's talk. fuck u guys contemplating a modkill. will make a decision in the morning. night.
I should take that into my repertoire as moves to pull to not get shot at night
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I have to admit, I have not read a single post in it's entirety Kurumi has done this game
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On March 05 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
..or rather "who knows why"?
I don't need an answer.
leave it at that. I don't want more modkills pretty please
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rayn, anything you disagree with or want to add? I honestly don't really care all that much about mafia reads right now and am trying to go by PoE seeing as that your mom thing totally did not work out yesterday and we just have a crapton of people that are just nulls for me. Feel like we should focus on those guys atm, so:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qCM4NLA.png)
left out the other green tone for obvious reasons right now.
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Sepulchre would make sense together with Sand as mafia
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