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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 17:48 GMT
#816
On March 04 2015 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 02:32 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 04 2015 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2015 02:16 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 04 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Same question to you Toad.
If you thought i am mafia, and HtS is mafia, is there a world where mafia!rayn is not pushing a lynch on a townie?


I don't think he has to be that certain on either of the reads for you to put it as drastically as you did. I have reads that don't match up all the time and I'll still discuss them, mostly stating something along the lines of "so that's what I think, but here's the thing: Those two being mafia together makes no sense whatsoever so I'm wrong on one of those two but no idea which one yet" afterwards
(and people lynch me because that's apparently waffling)

You just did the same thing when i talked about Breshke/Koshi. You literally did the thing i am implying your mom as town SHOULD have done.

The thing here is he is not saying "if i am wrong on one of those". He is stating he is sure HtS is mafia, he is sure i am mafia, because that's the only fucking two things he is talking about in the whole game. If he wasn't sure he would be considering alternatives, but he isn't.

Therefore he is sure, and if he is sure, he should consider Koshi town for the reasons i have outlined. It really is that simple.

that's because I'm smarter than him

Don't get me wrong, I could get behind a your mom shot I just don't like people exagerating their reads and saying they're 100% certain on something. That's a lie, in 99% of the cases. Most times it's something townish because people want to look confident to get people on their side rather than being wishy-washy but I don't like it nontheless.

Look at it from my point of view, my last game I played was a game that HTS and I were both about confirmed town 24 hours in (72 hours), Palmar stopped playing and spammed away "lynch Toad, I am 100% certain he is mafia" and nothing else. In the end people gave in, mostly out of annoyance as well as an unfortunate timeschedule on my part because Dungeons&Dragons on the day the lynch happened so people were annoyed about me not posting. And I flipped town obviously.

And that's what I'm saying here. I don't think the chances are anywhere close to being 100% for it to be that way even if it sounds cool to say so. And as I'm saying that towards you the same could be said for him, he could be overselling his confidence while leaking out his true uncertainty about it when he's not paying attention. Still makes him look bad, just not 100% bad.

Yeah and look at the second last game i played. I was fucking lynched for making cases on all mafia and the serial killer on D2 and noone bothered to read my post. They just said "you need to prove your innocence if you are town".

Can you at least go read my conversation with your mom starting somewhere around p3 in my filter and ACTUALLY READ IT? It is really fucking damning.

While i know i do present myself as overconfident often jsut because i think i am the best player in the game always and i have the most chances of lynching mafia, this is a case where i am 100% confident for a REASON and i am not "over-pushing" anything.

There is no fucking way your mom is town with the stuff he has put up in this game.

I'm not even sure I know what his case is he did on you. I think you're referring to that post when he quoted me and took a jab at you for not explaining all your reads except for one?

Just asking to be sure before going into more detail.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 17:59 GMT
#828
On March 04 2015 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 02:48 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 04 2015 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2015 02:32 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 04 2015 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2015 02:16 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 04 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Same question to you Toad.
If you thought i am mafia, and HtS is mafia, is there a world where mafia!rayn is not pushing a lynch on a townie?


I don't think he has to be that certain on either of the reads for you to put it as drastically as you did. I have reads that don't match up all the time and I'll still discuss them, mostly stating something along the lines of "so that's what I think, but here's the thing: Those two being mafia together makes no sense whatsoever so I'm wrong on one of those two but no idea which one yet" afterwards
(and people lynch me because that's apparently waffling)

You just did the same thing when i talked about Breshke/Koshi. You literally did the thing i am implying your mom as town SHOULD have done.

The thing here is he is not saying "if i am wrong on one of those". He is stating he is sure HtS is mafia, he is sure i am mafia, because that's the only fucking two things he is talking about in the whole game. If he wasn't sure he would be considering alternatives, but he isn't.

Therefore he is sure, and if he is sure, he should consider Koshi town for the reasons i have outlined. It really is that simple.

that's because I'm smarter than him

Don't get me wrong, I could get behind a your mom shot I just don't like people exagerating their reads and saying they're 100% certain on something. That's a lie, in 99% of the cases. Most times it's something townish because people want to look confident to get people on their side rather than being wishy-washy but I don't like it nontheless.

Look at it from my point of view, my last game I played was a game that HTS and I were both about confirmed town 24 hours in (72 hours), Palmar stopped playing and spammed away "lynch Toad, I am 100% certain he is mafia" and nothing else. In the end people gave in, mostly out of annoyance as well as an unfortunate timeschedule on my part because Dungeons&Dragons on the day the lynch happened so people were annoyed about me not posting. And I flipped town obviously.

And that's what I'm saying here. I don't think the chances are anywhere close to being 100% for it to be that way even if it sounds cool to say so. And as I'm saying that towards you the same could be said for him, he could be overselling his confidence while leaking out his true uncertainty about it when he's not paying attention. Still makes him look bad, just not 100% bad.

Yeah and look at the second last game i played. I was fucking lynched for making cases on all mafia and the serial killer on D2 and noone bothered to read my post. They just said "you need to prove your innocence if you are town".

Can you at least go read my conversation with your mom starting somewhere around p3 in my filter and ACTUALLY READ IT? It is really fucking damning.

While i know i do present myself as overconfident often jsut because i think i am the best player in the game always and i have the most chances of lynching mafia, this is a case where i am 100% confident for a REASON and i am not "over-pushing" anything.

There is no fucking way your mom is town with the stuff he has put up in this game.

I'm not even sure I know what his case is he did on you. I think you're referring to that post when he quoted me and took a jab at you for not explaining all your reads except for one?

Just asking to be sure before going into more detail.

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 18:18 your mom wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:
##Shoot: Half the Sky

agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like:
On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well.

All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts.

That being said, can we please change it to just
##vote: XYZ

I don't want someone to shoot someone because our "vote" and the official shooting phrase are the same thing except for a ':' ...


im quite jealous that you attribute hts being called out to rayn, cause he was the fourth in a series of three in which i think i was the first to point out the scummy posting. rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular.

yeah figured. So point by point:

I fully agree with the fact that that's stupid and makes him look bad. You calling someone mafia without backing it up and limiting your time on the things you consider to be most important and thus only explain that is not a mafia trait at all. In fact it shows that you're focussing on what you think is important, while (probably) leaving some things out in the open unexplained for other people to at least see what you're at.

I fully agree with the fact that making it sound like you're unwilling to commit is a stretch.

I did not mind his read on HTS. Yes she was asked to deliver a read but I agree with it looking weird. The correct thing would have been to have some balls and answer that she's not sure from HTS pov imo.

I'm not certain on what to make of that whole "he should be thinking about how his reads relate to each other" yet
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 18:11 GMT
#837
On March 04 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 18:18 your mom wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:
##Shoot: Half the Sky

agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like:
On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well.

All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts.

That being said, can we please change it to just
##vote: XYZ

I don't want someone to shoot someone because our "vote" and the official shooting phrase are the same thing except for a ':' ...


im quite jealous that you attribute hts being called out to rayn, cause he was the fourth in a series of three in which i think i was the first to point out the scummy posting. rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular.


rayn, talk to me about this post and how it fits in your narrative, pls

that's a really good post from rsoultin btw. First time I read it I too thought that it's more him taking a jab at rayn in spite because I mentioned rayn rather than him. So as a result I didn't read too much into it, which seems to be what rsoultin is implying here.

Rayn even calls it a case on him, considering it to be way more serious. The points raised by your mom in the latter part of that post are crap indeed.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 18:17 GMT
#847
On March 04 2015 03:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2015 18:18 your mom wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:
##Shoot: Half the Sky

agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like:
On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well.

All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts.

That being said, can we please change it to just
##vote: XYZ

I don't want someone to shoot someone because our "vote" and the official shooting phrase are the same thing except for a ':' ...


im quite jealous that you attribute hts being called out to rayn, cause he was the fourth in a series of three in which i think i was the first to point out the scummy posting. rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular.


rayn, talk to me about this post and how it fits in your narrative, pls

I don't understand what you are asking?
That is the basis of my scumread on your mom.


I guess for me, and maybe this is just cause I'm looking at things too simply, if you're scum pushing a town (shot/lynch/whatever) that has some traction, why go out of your way to claim responsibility for it?

His stubbornness and reads are bad, but if I'm scum I'll just let others take the heat on the push I started. Maybe that's what makes me bad at scum though lol -flicks geript-


it is a common thing to accuse people for not having any reads. Thus making sure you have at least 1 read that's "yours" is an important thing for mafia to do. He can totally do that as mafia and get back at it the next day saying exactly what you just did, assuming we shoot HTS and she flips town.

No problem whatsoever to do that as mafia.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 18:22 GMT
#858
On March 04 2015 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 03:18 geript wrote:
I get what rso is saying. He's like trying to take credit for HtS. Which is weird if HtS is town and mom is scum.

NO HE IS SETTING HIMSELF UP FOR BLAMING ME NEXT.
rofl.

are you guys fucking blind?

yeah that too. That's what I meant with making sure you have 1 read that's "yours" as mafia. One that you push and actually explain why you think that way. If he's mafia he's making sure the thread knows that he has one of those reads while setting you up for being the actual bad guy because unlike him, you just sheeped instead of properly explaining.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 18:26 GMT
#871
On March 04 2015 03:23 Tubesock wrote:
I'm ##unvoting Koshi due to his appearance. Probably going to sheep Rayn about Your Mom. More in a minute.

Day 1 Shoot Vote Count

Half The Sky (1): Raynpelikoneet, Toadesstern, your mom
Koshi (4): Siclucker, Geript, LightningStrike, Tubesock, Breshke
Geript (1): AT.Epiphany
Mocsta (1): Batsnacks
Breshke (2): Mocsta, Toadesstern
Your Mom (3): Raynpelikoneet, Obiwanshinobi, Half The Sky

Nominate a Vigilante:Geript


Not voted : Everyone else

As it currently stands, Koshi is slated to be Shot.

Countdown:


A loose device count: (If someone says they PM'd the host I'll Underline)

Armed:
Damdred, Fecalfeast, Rsoultin,Tubesock,Toadesstern
Guard: Sandroba, Keirathi, AT.Epiphany, Tubesock, Kitaman27, Toadesstern
Destroy: Mocsta



fixed a little
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 18:28 GMT
#872
On March 04 2015 03:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I more inclined to shoot Your Mom and see if Koshi will Shape up later like I said I like Rayns thing on Your Mom and willing to sheep it.
##Unvote
##Shoot: Your Mom

for the love of god please don't use that command to vote someone. That's awfully close to actually shooting someone... just write vote as well isntead of shoot, everyone knows what you're talking about.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 19:06 GMT
#934
On March 04 2015 04:03 geript wrote:
I'd replace tube/ff/Koshi with slam/breschke/ +1. Probaly Kita. This doesn't remind of the game where I was mafia with him. Not really seeing agenda driven play.

why slam?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 19:55 GMT
#999
On March 04 2015 04:50 your mom wrote:
the shot should be placed at the real day deadline, or traded for a lynch. anything else is scum favoured on day 1. i for myself wont be shooting anyone, and if i get shot i demand the shooter to be lynched for playing pro-scum.

I kind of agree with that. I'm not going to shoot when deadline hits either. I'm a PoE guy and I need more time to make that work...

At the same time, yes mafia benefits from shooting early but I'm not sure if they'd really risk doing that themselves. That's so much heat they'd get. So yes I'd agree. Don't shoot the second you can, best case for mafia would be if a townie misshots into another townie because we only had 24 hours to look at stuff while they didn't even have to pull the trigger.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 19:56 GMT
#1000
On March 04 2015 04:55 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:50 your mom wrote:
the shot should be placed at the real day deadline, or traded for a lynch. anything else is scum favoured on day 1. i for myself wont be shooting anyone, and if i get shot i demand the shooter to be lynched for playing pro-scum.

I kind of agree with that. I'm not going to shoot when deadline hits either. I'm a PoE guy and I need more time to make that work...

At the same time, yes mafia benefits from shooting early but I'm not sure if they'd really risk doing that themselves. That's so much heat they'd get. So yes I'd agree. Don't shoot the second you can, best case for mafia would be if a townie misshots into another townie because we only had 24 hours to look at stuff while they didn't even have to pull the trigger.

the problem is getting us that when there's insane people in here like batsnacks, robik, geript who all crave recognition like a teenager.
Assuming they're town.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 20:08 GMT
#1015
On March 04 2015 05:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:37 geript wrote:
Ok so basically it boils down to 1 simple thing. Syllogism is in this game. There's literally no one in the world that has ever or will ever read Sandroba as well as Syllogism. So if we leave Sandro alive N1 and he doesn't receive a power, then we auto lynch him. If he does receive a power, we evaluate both his use of it and what power was given. Like it's complete win/win.


More often than not a lazy/afk sandroba equals a mafia sandroba. We obviously can't rely on mechanics we aren't aware of, but leaving him around a day or two and seeing if he follows this metric usually does the trick.

early on, not really. If he keeps doing it yes but we're only 24 hours in, thus making him a bad target for d1 imo. He's not that hard to read if you just give him some time.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 20:12 GMT
#1020
On March 04 2015 05:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 05:02 Kurumi wrote:
Greetings friends!

I am back with great news: many of you have filled the N1N-7S form! Corporation is very thankful for the information you have provided and shall act accordingly. It's amusing how they don't know they count as Mafia for checks!!! Happy behind their vest, happy under their desk, but clueless like light in a prism! I have prepared raynpelikoneet's gun for today's Big Shot! He paid a fair price let me assure you, and he is not going to be disappointed! The employee I fired some hours ago started a kickstarter campaign for fire-safe candles! That's the spirit, too bad we own the kickstarter platform he is using... Not surprising, he was just a HR assistant...

I have now updated my list!

Chezinu
raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike
HalfTheSky
Alakaslam

kitatheman27
Foolishness
your mom

ObiWanShinobi


I'll remind you again to ##Request Checkup so you don't embarrass yourself during the Big Shot!

Another thing: my secretary told me that my behaviour towards employees isn't exactly as it should be - she fears that I am becoming a shut-in with all this Talk-Only-Through-Emails-or-On-Meetings. Lucy is a bright and beautiful woman so I heed her advice. This is a fifteen minute AMA with your favourite CEO! Face to face! Don't ruin it!

Hmm you put a spirit as Mafia yet lacking content in your post can you filter dive someone and give me your thoughts on them?

lol
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 20:19 GMT
#1027
On March 04 2015 05:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 05:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:02 Kurumi wrote:
Greetings friends!

I am back with great news: many of you have filled the N1N-7S form! Corporation is very thankful for the information you have provided and shall act accordingly. It's amusing how they don't know they count as Mafia for checks!!! Happy behind their vest, happy under their desk, but clueless like light in a prism! I have prepared raynpelikoneet's gun for today's Big Shot! He paid a fair price let me assure you, and he is not going to be disappointed! The employee I fired some hours ago started a kickstarter campaign for fire-safe candles! That's the spirit, too bad we own the kickstarter platform he is using... Not surprising, he was just a HR assistant...

I have now updated my list!

Chezinu
raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike
HalfTheSky
Alakaslam

kitatheman27
Foolishness
your mom

ObiWanShinobi


I'll remind you again to ##Request Checkup so you don't embarrass yourself during the Big Shot!

Another thing: my secretary told me that my behaviour towards employees isn't exactly as it should be - she fears that I am becoming a shut-in with all this Talk-Only-Through-Emails-or-On-Meetings. Lucy is a bright and beautiful woman so I heed her advice. This is a fifteen minute AMA with your favourite CEO! Face to face! Don't ruin it!

Hmm you put a spirit as Mafia yet lacking content in your post can you filter dive someone and give me your thoughts on them?

lol

Well Mr.Toad aren't you glad Palmar isn't in the game calling you Mafia 24/7 this game? Also what you think of Kurumi?

I'd slightly lean town but who knows, it's Kurumi
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 20:32 GMT
#1037
sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now.

Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like:
On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:

Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.

It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.

1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.

2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.

3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.

4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).



1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus

2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p

3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah.

4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him?

On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.

I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system



You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you.

Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour.


You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up.

Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post.

Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help.


I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid.

I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way.


Confirmed town or mafia smurf!
what's that even telling us

On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia
more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything.

It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 20:35 GMT
#1042
On March 04 2015 05:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 05:32 Toadesstern wrote:
sicklucker seems like a really good shot to me right now.

Under the rader, only doing 1 line posts, none of them do anything, only talking about mechanics or something that looks like something but isn't actually because he refuses to do the extramile and do some analysis, like:
On March 03 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:

Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.

It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.

1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.

2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.

3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.

4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).



1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus

2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p

3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah.

4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him?

On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.

I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system



You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you.

Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour.


You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up.

Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post.

Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help.


I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid.

I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way.


Confirmed town or mafia smurf!
what's that even telling us

On March 03 2015 18:24 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn just tell everyone to shoot koshi. Whoever shoots anyone besides koshi with out an insane reason is claiming mafia
more of pretending he's doing something as in "see I totally have a read, it's Koshi" without doing anything.

It's not his read on Koshi or what he's posting really, it's the elusive not really afk but just enough under the radar that deserves a shot imo.

hahahahahahaha i literally just read his filter and came to the opposite conclusion

why do you think he's townie
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 21:31 GMT
#1103
On March 04 2015 06:24 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 06:18 your mom wrote:
pretty underwhelmed by sandro atm, already wanted to ask if toad was around before kita made that point.

he caught me once, said you can catch mafia off a single post. no comments on hts post which caused a wat reaction in multiple people before each decided to do his own thing starting from there.

I'm underwhelmed at myself too, I don't blame you. I could provide excuses like being away from mafia for a while or not knowing the meta of 2/3 the players in this game. However that would be lazy and I'm not feeling particularly lazy right now. I shall go back to reading filters.

is that supposed to be funny?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 21:53 GMT
#1138
On March 04 2015 06:44 your mom wrote:
toad, youre the sandro connoisseur, can you do something like a live feed of what hes doing cause i might be having too high expectations for his town play.

last time we played together I called him useless, tried to lynch him. He said I'm mafia, tried to get me lynched. We both were town.

The thing about town!Sandroba is that he will be useless before he figures out the game and I don't think 24 hours is enough to figure it out for him in a big game. I'd like to wait for at least d2 on Sandroba
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 23:12 GMT
#1254
On March 04 2015 08:05 IAmRobik wrote:
THIS IS ABSURD ASDAF ASDIOFASDNOIFASNIDOF NI

I LITERALLY DIDN'T GET MY SHOT COUNTED BECAUSE I SAID "STORM" INSTEAD OF "STRIKE"

DASFNIOASDFNIOSADFASDFASDFASDNIOASDFIONFASIODFIOASNDFIONASIO


I am willing to bet VEs balls on this being fake. Lynch robik imo.

Someone who really wants to shoot doesn't just get the name wrong. He sits there waiting with the text prepared making sure he gets his shot off. The shot robik did was faked and so is that post.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 23:15 GMT
#1260
if you really are town you can at least be happy that you won't get shot by mafia tonight.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 23:20 GMT
#1264
On March 04 2015 08:17 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 08:15 Toadesstern wrote:
if you really are town you can at least be happy that you won't get shot by mafia tonight.

of course i'll get shot by mafia. I'm universally townread and have better reads than anyone in this game. my only saving graces are getting medic saved or getting a bp vest from syll/phil

my spelling's superior to yours though
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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