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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 15:59 GMT
#763
I'm pretty positive he said he looked up his games, because I recall people criticising him for that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 16:02 GMT
#764
Kita and LS, since you're both here, let's talk about Damdred.

I'm TRing SL and he found something off with Damdred as well. I had a hunch on him earlier since he commented on my opening WAY after others expressed reservation but my latest concern is his read on you, LS. It reeks too much of the way he tried pushing you in Titanic, and he was scum that game. He should know how tentative you sound which is probably why I'm leaning scum on him. Thoughts?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 16:31 GMT
#780
On March 04 2015 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is not eden.


I guessed JAT earlier, but I could be wrong on that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 19:37 GMT
#968
I'm back.

Here's where I stand doing some more filter diving.

Kita - Inclined to scumread him atm. From Carol, I do recall him being a low-count high content poster, his first few posts are on mechanics and his opinion on your mom doesn't say anything new of substance that others had not touched on already.

Koshi - from modding Horn where he was scum, he'd pop in and try to stay lighthearted but had some trouble emulating his town game and I recall marv calling him out early on. I'm inclined to BOD him given his real life schedule atm, so I don't think he's a good shot for today.

Right now, I'd say my top shots would be YM, Kita, and anyone else in the forgettables list, like Onegu, Bats, Oats (I even forgot he was in the game).
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 19:39 GMT
#975
After re-reading, here's who I'd have on my no-shot list: LS, Tube, Slam, Rasputin, Toad, Epiphany, geript, Rayn, and Robik.

Sicklucker is someone I'd expect some more activity from, but when he entered, he seemed town.
The same went for FF.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 19:41 GMT
#978
Keirathi and Kurumi, I have not played with either as much - does anyone know if they are low-count posters or not?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 19:44 GMT
#981
On March 04 2015 04:34 rsoultin wrote:
hrum...

we just got out of a game where FF was so happy to be town lol we were convinced he may be 3p...so that's a strange read from HtS regardless


I'm thinking back to Carol, where he didn't do jack all most of the game. And I was pushing his lynch like crazy in Titanic so part of his activity (prior to the scumread on Palmar) was defending himself as well.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 19:50 GMT
#992
On March 04 2015 04:47 Tubesock wrote:
Why is Keirathi town? How can you town him but scum koshi for doing the same thing? I don't understand.


I'm looking at the little I can garner from their posts, I'm going to disregard both's activity for now, since I've never played with them. If they are the types that spam a lot then it's definitely scumpile, but I don't know the norm for their activity.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 19:55 GMT
#998
Kurumi isn't doing jack all with the one read post either, Tube. He wouldn't be a bad shot, unless someone can vouch for his play.

Rayn, why are you saying Kurumi (probably) is town? This is the only post that isn't full out troll and he could be pulling names from anywhere. Doesn't say anything with his reads.

On March 03 2015 23:48 Kurumi wrote:
Hello!

Turns out that actually those were not Bengali hamsters, but Guinea pigs. Some unwise individual thought that living on an island is good enough premise to deduce that those creatures can swim. He has been willingly terminated and given our Good Bad Goodbye Employee Package™. Hopefully he'll remember the company policies to actually request aid from our knowledgeable technicians. Who knows what can happen, if your equipment wasn't checked!

So that's for the news from your friendly corporation, now onto more shocking news. I've been trying to contact so-called "Ninjas" and had no luck with succeeding. Any information concerning "Ninjas" is welcome! Just use the form N1N-7S and someone from the Corporation shall come in touch with you.

I am a very busy man but hopefully this list will prove to be interesting:

Chezinu
raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike
kitatheman27
Foolishness
.

'Till the next meeting friends!

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 19:58 GMT
#1002
EBWOP - Tube, got the names mixed up. I was getting more townie vibes from Keirathi from the little he posted, but would like to see more before calling him town.

Do you not like the content in his filter or just the quantity of it?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 20:00 GMT
#1003
On March 04 2015 04:58 Damdred wrote:
Hey people finally have power back. I'm missing some content I'll finish catching up now


Welcome back. When you are able, can you elaborate on your read on LS?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 20:02 GMT
#1007
On March 04 2015 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
HTS could you respond to my question when you have a chance? Thanks.


Alright, hold on. I've missed it.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 20:04 GMT
#1011
On March 04 2015 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:55 Half the Sky wrote:
Kurumi isn't doing jack all with the one read post either, Tube. He wouldn't be a bad shot, unless someone can vouch for his play.

Rayn, why are you saying Kurumi (probably) is town? This is the only post that isn't full out troll and he could be pulling names from anywhere. Doesn't say anything with his reads.

On March 03 2015 23:48 Kurumi wrote:
Hello!

Turns out that actually those were not Bengali hamsters, but Guinea pigs. Some unwise individual thought that living on an island is good enough premise to deduce that those creatures can swim. He has been willingly terminated and given our Good Bad Goodbye Employee Package™. Hopefully he'll remember the company policies to actually request aid from our knowledgeable technicians. Who knows what can happen, if your equipment wasn't checked!

So that's for the news from your friendly corporation, now onto more shocking news. I've been trying to contact so-called "Ninjas" and had no luck with succeeding. Any information concerning "Ninjas" is welcome! Just use the form N1N-7S and someone from the Corporation shall come in touch with you.

I am a very busy man but hopefully this list will prove to be interesting:

Chezinu
raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike
kitatheman27
Foolishness
.

'Till the next meeting friends!


First of all his reads he presents are about 100% correct.


Alright so if I understand you right, he has god tier reads, but how do you differentiate between that and a scummer having perfect information or a scummer sheeping reads? I mean if you have a god tier read on him fine, but for someone like me who doesn't know him very well, what should I be looking for?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 20:18 GMT
#1025
On March 04 2015 01:43 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
His case on HtS. Same thing here as above. HtS was asked to give a read on someone. She did, yet your mom somehow turns this into "you fabricated a read because you needed to give one". It is at least as likely that HtS gave the read as town because SHE WAS ASKED TO!! She answered a question "what do you think my alignment is". Why is it impossible this is the case here? That -- for a vet player -- should be at worst a null-tell.

Now those are his only scumreads in this game. Both are fake. So very fucking fake and badly reasoned.


I kinda had similar suspicious as your mom here finding HtS's initial couple of posts on fecal to be irrelevant and then the town conclusion seemingly coming out of the blue so that may not be "fake" considering I came to the same conclusion independently before even reading your mom's filter.

The part about him that doesn't immediately make me view him as town for seeing the same things is this statement:

"rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular."

It seems like he is jumping to a conclusion too quick here, stating it as a matter of fact. I interpret it mostly as rayn talking about other stuff, rather than him "giving himself other options."

Still haven't read much of koshi since he seems a bit emo this game so I'm not sure if the second part of your argument has merit, but I'll like a look when I have a chance.


Kita forgive me if I'm looking at the wrong post, but this was the post I was looking at and filtered dived you on when I made my conclusion. It didn't look like he was asking you a direct question (timestamps indicate otherwise) and I know I'd beaten you by at least an hour on the "giving himself other options" part which I also disputed based on my experience with Rayn.

If you came to those conclusions independently fine, but another concern I had on you was that your filter was that we have 20+ players in this game - does anyone else here (other than those you've already discussed) give any scum vibes?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#1030
On March 04 2015 05:11 kitaman27 wrote:
Is a scummer having "perfect information" even relevant to think about here?


I said perfect information because he throws LS's name on as town, and msot people who haven't played with LS will generally scumread him for his tone. I don't think he's one of those people that have played with him often.

His prior post was trolly- this could be semi-trolly, I'd have LESS issue with it at face value (remember, I've not played with him before) if he actually EXPLAINED his reads.

Tubesock is also questioning the change in his reads (second post also has no explanation for them) so I'm not the only one finding that odd. And Tube can confirm, but I'm pretty sure he hasn't played with Kurumi either.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#1031
EBWOP - And there's no indication of whether he's sheeping the read on LS either.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 20:26 GMT
#1032
I need to AFK for dinner, but I will be back.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 21:50 GMT
#1130
Back and catching up.

Robik and Damdred, can either of you explain the reasons for your LS read? Those of us here familiar with his gameplay are a bit confused. Robik why shoot him above all? Or has that since changed?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 21:51 GMT
#1131
On March 04 2015 06:49 sicklucker wrote:
I believe I left a pregame excuse for my low inactivity before the game started


Fair play. You're not on my shoot list anyhow.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 22:16 GMT
#1157
More filter diving.

Anyone have thoughts on Sepulchre?

On March 04 2015 06:16 Sepulchre wrote:
I think Raynpelikoneet is the best shot in the long run.
Unfortunately I won't be around during the troubled times of the soft deadline but that is who I would likely go with right now, albeit without having read too deeply into the thread.

For the record, I'm not in favor of shooting Your Mom, while shooting Koshi is acceptable in my book, but I'm not crazy about it either.


That post was about 20 hours after his first relatively detailed post, and assuming this is a smurf (if it's not, someone correct me please), this person could be trying to cruise on that first post. I don't like this second post, even Sep skimming the thread, I'm surprised Rayn's filter isn't either changing his mind or allowing him (her) to elaborate on how he goes from this:

Other than that, I would also consider shooting raynpelikoneet purely because all his posts at time of writing are objectively terrible, have nothing to do with this game or are poor attempts at jokes.
Occasionally a combination of any of the above, probably. I'm not yet acclimated enough to really tell which posts in this game are jokes, sadly.


....to "Rayn is the best shot" even if it's not with full confidence.

At face value, it looks scummy to me. This also reads like someone who is trying to keep options open as well.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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