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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 12:43 GMT
#711
On March 03 2015 21:40 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 21:36 Koshi wrote:
On March 03 2015 21:23 AT.Epiphany wrote:
On March 03 2015 21:19 Koshi wrote:
No questions for Koshixxx?


Okay, I'll bite? Why such low participation/unavailability? Koshixxx

Game started on 0000 and didn't feel like playing. I played doto and watched House of Cards.
I slept till 1200.
I am now at work till 1800, I got a lot to do so I don't think I will do to much. Depends a bit.
I will then be home but doto will call again and I have 0 urge to play this game as long as I didn't read anything yet.

So Wednesday sounds like a fun day to start.


You are one of the main people being considered to be shot. If you want to play this at all you might want to start sooner than that Koshixxx

Kill the people sitting in rayn his ass pushing the shot on me. Or maybe rayn. We will see Wednesday. Or maybe sooner? Who knows. Really. I need to work.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 12:55 GMT
#714
The balance in this game is probably so off. It really discourages me as well.

If town starts with 3 ml they lose. Might be faster if ninjas decide to kill townies. The lynch mechanic is letting some random dude shoot another random dude in the face. Great information.

At the end of the game I already know the host + balance committee will use the excuse "but what if town actually played perfect and shot scum anyday everyday? Then the game is perfectly balanced"



Being able to convince me this is balanced might make me play sooner.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 13:14 GMT
#717
If I read this thread and there is nobody telling people we should shoot the first 48 hours after we actually can shoot I will be pretty sad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 13:14 GMT
#718
shouldn't shoot*
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 13:51 GMT
#721
On March 03 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote:
those shuriken are 1-shot?

if they're 1-shot then nah I don't really care about ninja

Here is a ninja. To the other ninja:
Kill mafia first and then kill this guy.
Thank you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 13:54 GMT
#723
On March 03 2015 10:19 Sepulchre wrote:
So, these two posts by Half the Sky are, perhaps intentionally, rather bad play, for obvious reasons. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it is just a bait.

Laziest read in this thread.

Why do you assume that it is bait? Did you check that she follows up on the bait? If you did, why am I not reading about it. If you didn't, why didn't you?

I cannot believe you say somethings is bait and then not look if she follows up on the bait. Or check yourself if the bait worked.


Anyway. Just saying. I didn't read the rest of your post because you started with a dumb and lazy read.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 14:01 GMT
#724
On March 03 2015 12:00 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 11:52 geript wrote:
On March 03 2015 11:36 Tubesock wrote:
On March 03 2015 11:30 geript wrote:

I think your idea is really fucking stupid because it won't stop anyone from shooting.


But that's kinda the point of it. We talk about who town wants to shoot and everyone in thread at the 24hr mark when shooting is possible shoots for the vote leader. That way the shot is controlled by town.

Deferring to you or Slam's RNG target depends on either of you being there at the deadline to shoot before someone else does. With knowing what the town has voted, then more people will hopefully all shoot at the leader and we will have 6+ people shooting the preferred target.

What's your less stupid idea?

My less stupid idea is to have people get "approval" to shoot. I'd you need say 5-8 people vote for you to be the shooter. Then it's far more like a mayoral election and actually gives information about the backers.


Currently, though I wouldn't shoot HtS. If Onegu doesn't do anything then I wouldn't object to you shooting him. But why not shoot Koshi? He seems fairly likely since he just blantantly said he can't be asked to do anything.

Confirmed not reading and will be ignored for the rest of the game. I blantantly said I could be asked anything.

Could be mafia. I saw someone say something about this guy doing nothing except the voting plan, which he didn't push hard, he just mentioned that it would be nice to do.

Could be mafia indeed.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 14:10 GMT
#726
On March 03 2015 12:05 sicklucker wrote:
Ya ill shoot koshi. He flips mafia over 50% of tht time from that noplay excuse. Which is great odds


On March 03 2015 12:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 12:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Robik and OWS any thoughts so far?


Robik seems somewhat apathetic which is never really a good sign from him.

Koshi not doing things makes me an unhappy camper as well.

That's about it at this point though. Meh.


On March 03 2015 13:01 LightningStrike wrote:
Also my thoughts on Koshi I finding it odd he not really trying this game and sorta reminds me of Horns of Africa where he wasn't doing much and trying to avoid being lynched so he might be Mafia on that but he needs to give a reason for not doing much.
Rayn he not doing much either and I think in a post game he said he wasn't going to do much shit as town due to people not having the ability so idk if he really going through with that or what's going on with him.
So my best person I want to shoot is most likely Koshi for now.
##Shoot: Koshi


On March 03 2015 13:06 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 12:55 geript wrote:
@Damdred. What do you think about Koshi and Rayn?


Koshi somewhat reminds me of season of a witch, rayn feels weird.

How does it remind you of that game?

On March 03 2015 13:34 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba is mafia.


Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is mafia.


Can you explain these when you are around rayn?

I can get behind a koshi shot though rereading horn it is more similar than i thought it was.

##Vote Koshi

You reread an entire game so you could meta it against the 3 posts I made???? wow. nice.



Holy fuck everybody reads me as scum for not doing shit first 12 hours into a game. Unbelievable. I guess I will need to be misslynched a couple times before this will ever change. Which is a shame because I will never let it happen. So I am stuck having to do shit D1 D2 and then die N1 or N2 and then see town be complete ******** and lose game after game.

Great.


Anyway. the people using meta here as suspect. As if I said enough to use meta already. rofl. I was around for 1 hour.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 14:12 GMT
#727
Like, you can think I am maybe mafia for not doing things because that reminds you of me doing nothing and being mafia. I am fine with that. I think it is normal that you think that. Or possible. People remember things.

But if you claim you reread an entire game so you could match my meta of that game to the meta of this game you are seriously overdoing it. And you are scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 14:14 GMT
#729
I have decided to be the voice of reasoning this game. I will point stuff out. I will not push people though. I will point out if people did scummy things and that's it. I will not remember people doing scummy things. I will not solve the game by PoE after I found towny things and scummy things. I will just do some stuff I like to do.

It has been decided.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 14:16 GMT
#731
The voice of Reasoning is in recess. And needs to work on other things. I am not reading things for at least 4 hours. Leave questions to

KoshiTheVoiceOfReasoning
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 14:17 GMT
#732
On March 03 2015 23:15 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 23:12 Koshi wrote:
Like, you can think I am maybe mafia for not doing things because that reminds you of me doing nothing and being mafia. I am fine with that. I think it is normal that you think that. Or possible. People remember things.

But if you claim you reread an entire game so you could match my meta of that game to the meta of this game you are seriously overdoing it. And you are scum.

you yourself pointed out several using meta to support their accusation.

Are you suggesting the above is the whole scum team?

When i read the 5 quotes you posted, I see varying degrees of intent. Do you?

Yes. I already explained that.
I have no problem with people scumreading me or saying I might be scum for doing nothing. I might be. I can see that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 15:33 GMT
#745
I will post absolutely nothing for the next 18 hours. Koshi will not make another post till this countdown is on 0:00




I made this decision after reading the posts made by 7-8 players in this game. Nothing I did was scummy this game, I just decided to not play for the first 2 hours of the game because I wanted to do other things during that time (00:00 till 02:00), slept for 10 hours and had to work after that. But for some fucking reason I am scumread by 7-8 people for this, while it doesn't make any sense in the world that I should be SHOT for this. Yes, you can put some suspicion on me, I guess that is fine. But to read the dumb certainty from people like sicklucker and rayn about my alignment just bores me and makes me mad + somewhat sad.

So I decided to do nothing till after I wake up tomorrow and maybe glance over the thread again.

Let it also be known the sentiment in this thread is pretty mafia favored, we got too many people wanting to shoot way too early. If I have to read more post from somebody like geript I actually might get cancer. The guy thinks he got reads while he just got proven wrong on every flip in an ongoing game I will not discuss further than these flips. It is just cancerous.

So I might get shot for deciding to not play this game hard in the first 24hours, so be it. This is not on me. This is on the townleaders in this thread using this lynchsystem extremely bad and thinking they are better than they actually are. Because don't be fooled. There is no case on me except meta. And the meta used on me is actually not that good, it's extremely lazy form of meta based on me not playing for 2 hours before going to bed.
Quite obviously I am still not playing, even after being awake for 4 more hours, even though I posted some things, and I just declared another +17 hours of not posting. So I guess now you could make some sort of meta read. Maybe. But tbh as mafia I am more around than this. But maybe not. I am not sure how my mafia game looks like.


I would say that we should shoot somewhere in 48 hours. That would be optimal. But I don't think that will happen because some dumbasses are putting the idea in the thread we should shoot really fast because otherwise mafia will use the shot (which is not the worst play in this atmoshphere because you might get away with it, because nobody is saying that shooting is claiming scum, or trying to make sure town doesn't shoot. And on top of that the game looks shitty balanced and getting a ml already is pretty awesome, especially if tomorrow it is cell (and then the shooter isn't in the cell) and the day after that it is mayor and mafia is able to get a scum mayor because there are no townies left anyway. GG.

Anyway. Do w.e the fuck you want. I am sitting this one out on the sidelines. I will post some smart stuff in 17 hours. If I get the chance. And I feel like. Because if somebody else is shot and it is a town I might just not give 2 fucks at all. Unless I then see mafia not nk anybody. And the ninjas hitting scum. Or something like that. My expectation for this game are low. I can already not wait to see how fast town spirit will gain points and how expensive the blue roles are against the mafia counterpart.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 20:32 GMT
#1036
Lies. Blatant lies. But who cares. geript really is lowskilled so nobody should really consider anything he says. The only reason you should read his post is to do the opposite. You might become a good player then.

Sicklucker his statement is irrelevant because it was made after too few hours into the game when this game started 0000 and I choose not to play in the first hours. One can argue I choose not to play because I am mafia. However, I gave a reason why I didn't play. So you should only consider if I am lying or mafia.

I do not know why sicklucker thinks he can use meta this early in the game to make such insane read. He might be mafia or he might be fucking terrible. I think he is the second.
It isn't good play at all what he did. So I can safely say he is fucking terrible and nobody can say I am a dick here. herpderp Koshi mafia cuz he no play and he sleep 5 hours into the game or w.e the amount of hours it was.


But I guess I should defend myself a bit so that I cannot be blamed after the game. If geript or sicklucker shoot me you might want to lynch them afterwards. geript is so fucking horrible he can be town though. But you just lynch him on the premises he is fucking horrible and removing him from the game is the best thing for town anyway, if he flips scum that is just a bonus. Sicklucker should know how fucking goood I am at this game and him trying to remove me after x hours when I should be sleeping is just fucking horrible play by him or he is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 21:13 GMT
#1072
On March 04 2015 06:12 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 05:32 Koshi wrote:
Lies. Blatant lies. But who cares. geript really is lowskilled so nobody should really consider anything he says. The only reason you should read his post is to do the opposite. You might become a good player then.

Sicklucker his statement is irrelevant because it was made after too few hours into the game when this game started 0000 and I choose not to play in the first hours. One can argue I choose not to play because I am mafia. However, I gave a reason why I didn't play. So you should only consider if I am lying or mafia.

I do not know why sicklucker thinks he can use meta this early in the game to make such insane read. He might be mafia or he might be fucking terrible. I think he is the second.
It isn't good play at all what he did. So I can safely say he is fucking terrible and nobody can say I am a dick here. herpderp Koshi mafia cuz he no play and he sleep 5 hours into the game or w.e the amount of hours it was.


But I guess I should defend myself a bit so that I cannot be blamed after the game. If geript or sicklucker shoot me you might want to lynch them afterwards. geript is so fucking horrible he can be town though. But you just lynch him on the premises he is fucking horrible and removing him from the game is the best thing for town anyway, if he flips scum that is just a bonus. Sicklucker should know how fucking goood I am at this game and him trying to remove me after x hours when I should be sleeping is just fucking horrible play by him or he is mafia.


You start by saying were horrible and and town they you say town should take action against us if we shoot you? Seems like you want to get a 1 for 1 trade. Im still shooting any objections?

Try english. And if you are somewhere saying I want to trade 1v1 after I flipped mafia or something you are compeltely retarded.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 21:21 GMT
#1081
No seriously. This gets ignored?

This fucker is saying I want to trade 1 v 1 as mafia because I tell town to lynch the person who shoots me.

How does it makes sense? I don't fucking know.

Somewhere I want to believe he just scumslipped on my alignment but like I said. He might just be retarded.

You people actually understands what he is trying to say right?

KOSHI AS MAFIA WANTS TO GO 1 V 1 AFTER HE FLIPPED MAFIA BY TELLING TOWN THEY SHOULD LYNCH THE GUY WHO SHOT MAFIA.

BEST FUCKING PLAN MAFIA!KOSHI EVER CAME UP WITH.

I APPLAUD MYSELF.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 21:38 GMT
#1114
On March 04 2015 06:37 sicklucker wrote:
Rayn didnt even interact with koshi in thread and they were both spamming. Altho I think rayn looks town for questioning a bunch of random people I definitely hate koshi more!

I was spamming? hahaha. O boy.

Was this before or after I made up the great plan of getting a townie lynched because he shot me as mafia?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 22:17 GMT
#1160
On March 04 2015 06:45 sandroba wrote:
@koshi you said you wouldn't be lynched d1, and would in turn do something d1. Was that something complaing about being lynched d1? I was expecting something more helpful.

I am not sure if I said that. I am pretty sure that I said that if I get shot I don't see it as being lycnhed. But that was before I had to read the cases from geript and sicklucker. Which aren't cases or isn't anything with value at all. Especially sl his read on me is 100%% bullshit.

The best thing I could do is shoot sicklucker as soon as deadline is over. But I won't do it. I cba.

I tend to give each mafia game around 8-12 hours a day. Every game I have been in. I try to make decent cases and do actual scumhunting. I try to make sure that games are pleasant and balanced.

But it is all for nothing. It just is.

Look at the balance of this game. It is a fucking joke. I could type multiple pages on why this game is already not balanced just looking at the set-up. But why bother? I keep doing it and the same fucking hosts keep fucking up. I can only fucking pray that the scum spirit can't make the mafia vigis. I can only fucking pray.

Why does scum need 2 kp? When they can get vigi roles? When the lynch mechanics aren't town favored at all. Why? Why is this game over after 3 early ml? It might go a lot longer if town can get mafia to 4, but why is it over after 3 early ml? I don't understand this.

Why do the ninjas have 2 kp? Why? It doesn't make any sense. So they can kill potentially 2 townies or 2 scums when they PoE the other ninja? Their wincon has nothing to do with town vs scum. Yet they got INSANE POWER to influence this game. WHY THE FUCK?????


I don't give a fuck. geript should be modkilled after his second post. Or at least warned severely in the thread. But I guess I can't hope that the mods of this game actually read the posts.

I cannot function when there is a retard like geript calling me mafia for no reason and I know that he can just shoot me. It cannot be asked from me that I care. I just can't. I cannot read the post of sicklucker and then think by myself. You know what Koshi, you should try your best so you can convince this fucking retard that shooting you is not a good move, because -sniped-. I just can't.


The sest up is retarded. The players are retarded. The host neglect his duties. I cba.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 22:28 GMT
#1171
On March 04 2015 07:27 kitaman27 wrote:
lol koshi, if only the game was put up 5 weeks in advance to give us all the chance to review the setup before deciding whether or not to join

Also for those planning to deadline shoot, you need to make your shot at :59 rather than :00. Only reason that I'm pointing it out despite being against it is that the six mafia players are more likely to recognize this as a team and relay it in the qt than a single individual.

How to balance big games.

1) Remove all blue roles.
2) Remove town favored lynch mechanic.
3) Give town less ml than your normal small games
4) Give anti town a shitton of kp.
5) ??
6) Laugh
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 03 2015 22:32 GMT
#1176
On March 04 2015 07:26 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 07:17 Koshi wrote:
On March 04 2015 06:45 sandroba wrote:
@koshi you said you wouldn't be lynched d1, and would in turn do something d1. Was that something complaing about being lynched d1? I was expecting something more helpful.

I am not sure if I said that. I am pretty sure that I said that if I get shot I don't see it as being lycnhed. But that was before I had to read the cases from geript and sicklucker. Which aren't cases or isn't anything with value at all. Especially sl his read on me is 100%% bullshit.

The best thing I could do is shoot sicklucker as soon as deadline is over. But I won't do it. I cba.

I tend to give each mafia game around 8-12 hours a day. Every game I have been in. I try to make decent cases and do actual scumhunting. I try to make sure that games are pleasant and balanced.

But it is all for nothing. It just is.

Look at the balance of this game. It is a fucking joke. I could type multiple pages on why this game is already not balanced just looking at the set-up. But why bother? I keep doing it and the same fucking hosts keep fucking up. I can only fucking pray that the scum spirit can't make the mafia vigis. I can only fucking pray.

Why does scum need 2 kp? When they can get vigi roles? When the lynch mechanics aren't town favored at all. Why? Why is this game over after 3 early ml? It might go a lot longer if town can get mafia to 4, but why is it over after 3 early ml? I don't understand this.

Why do the ninjas have 2 kp? Why? It doesn't make any sense. So they can kill potentially 2 townies or 2 scums when they PoE the other ninja? Their wincon has nothing to do with town vs scum. Yet they got INSANE POWER to influence this game. WHY THE FUCK?????


I don't give a fuck. geript should be modkilled after his second post. Or at least warned severely in the thread. But I guess I can't hope that the mods of this game actually read the posts.

I cannot function when there is a retard like geript calling me mafia for no reason and I know that he can just shoot me. It cannot be asked from me that I care. I just can't. I cannot read the post of sicklucker and then think by myself. You know what Koshi, you should try your best so you can convince this fucking retard that shooting you is not a good move, because -sniped-. I just can't.


The sest up is retarded. The players are retarded. The host neglect his duties. I cba.


You can shoot an acual mafia read at deadline and you should if your town. Unfortunately you dont have any because your not a great mafia player

Funny. You dumb piece of shit. Nice fucking bait. I should just say some shit and ruin your fucking day but who fucking cares. You fucking miserable piece of shit.
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