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On March 03 2015 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 20:55 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 20:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 03 2015 20:45 Breshke wrote:
rayn I don't agree that sandroba wanting to push the button is scummy.
I think all this button stuff is null.
Town doesn't know what the button does neither does mafia. I don't see a way we can "work out" what the device does so we either push is now when any damage it can do to town might not be as strong. Or we press it when we are in a really bad position (this is iffy because it would still probably be better to try lynch our way out if we can rather than leave it to some device.)
I think if it is going to be pressed then these are the two times that it is done and i don't think anyone suggesting otherwise is scummy in itself unless they are doing so to not talk about reads or w/e. Like in this post you literally argue the exact same thing i do. sandroba says the opposite yet it is not scummy? I never considered that mafia would know what the device does tbh And the stuff in brackets I realized as i was typing it and that's the part that contradicts the first part. Still IF sandroba is town I think her logic makes sense if town is in a bad position that they for some reason don't want to lynch out of pushing the button is an option. For her to say that as mafia we she would know it is a bad thing else why press it when town is about to lose? In which case why would you want to press it now? No, the logic makes absolutely no sense. If we at some point are in LYLO you don't want to have an 30 page argument about if we should do something that is possibly going to lose us the game right away or not. You want to focus on finding mafia, and lynching mafia. If the device is unknown to the town at that point you are never ever going to even argue about using it because you do not want distraction in scumhunting. The cons outweigh the pros 100% in that situation. What sandroba suggested is really really really mafia favored regardless of if the mafia knows what the device does or if they doesn't. Because his argument is that when TOWN is in a really bad position we should try it. Even if the device is unknown to mafia, in that situation it doesn't make MAFIA LOSE, but it CAN make TOWN LOSE. If the device is town-favored you want to use it as soon as possible (if you are going to). If the device is mafia-favored you want to find that out as soon as possible so you can get rid of it. If you don't want to find out either, you just get rid of it, because the more time it stays unknown to the town, it becomes more mafia favoured just by being an unknown factor in the game. It's like massclaiming in all-roled setups. You should always do it the first thing in the game. Dumb people are always gonna argue against it and then they still end up massclaiming in like LYLO when the most benefit of the act is already lost... But sandroba is not dumb. He is mafia.
Okay i understand and yes you are right my bad. Hail Rayn why did i ever doubt you.
There is probs better stuff to talk about but koshi not being around and you keep saying we should "work out" what the device does. Is there anyway we can actually do this because i can't think of one. Would it not be better to just destroy it now and have it out of the way.
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On March 03 2015 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know which is better. I'd rather try it out and see what it does, if it's bad then jsut get rid of it because then noone can argue against it. I try to keep it simple.
What's your read on your mom and Mocsta?
Im lean scum on Mocsta. I don't like those pretend scum qt conversations he made doesn't seem useful to me in adding to his read because I have never really seen anyone coach people like that in scum QT's. He also mentioned that he wanted to talk about spelch and me but never ended up talking about me yet was quick to say that he thought my "slip" was important. Could be biased here because of that though.
I liked your mom for scum reading you before you reentered the thread because i agreed with that line of thought. But when you came back and actually started pushing your reads more and explaining stuff instead of just calling people mafia i felt like he stuck to his read instead of reevaluating you. This doesn't make him mafia though could just be lazy town so null for now.
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On March 03 2015 21:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:23 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 21:19 Koshi wrote:
No questions for Koshixxx? Okay, I'll bite? Why such low participation/unavailability? Koshixxx Game started on 0000 and didn't feel like playing. I played doto and watched House of Cards. I slept till 1200. I am now at work till 1800, I got a lot to do so I don't think I will do to much. Depends a bit. I will then be home but doto will call again and I have 0 urge to play this game as long as I didn't read anything yet. So Wednesday sounds like a fun day to start.
You are one of the main people being considered to be shot. If you want to play this at all you might want to start sooner than that Koshixxx
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On March 03 2015 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:31 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know which is better. I'd rather try it out and see what it does, if it's bad then jsut get rid of it because then noone can argue against it. I try to keep it simple.
What's your read on your mom and Mocsta?
Im lean scum on Mocsta. I don't like those pretend scum qt conversations he made doesn't seem useful to me in adding to his read because I have never really seen anyone coach people like that in scum QT's. He also mentioned that he wanted to talk about spelch and me but never ended up talking about me yet was quick to say that he thought my "slip" was important. Could be biased here because of that though. I liked your mom for scum reading you before you reentered the thread because i agreed with that line of thought. But when you came back and actually started pushing your reads more and explaining stuff instead of just calling people mafia i felt like he stuck to his read instead of reevaluating you. This doesn't make him mafia though could just be lazy town so null for now. The problem is your mom scumread me AFTER i had already re-entered the thread.
Yeah reading his filter I didn't see that so it is probably more scummy yeah
On March 03 2015 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And Breshke, a serious question:
Do you really think if i was mafia i would just call some random people mafia just to keep my options open?
Do you really think it's a possibility?
I didn't like that you left the thread without explaining your reads. Obviously if you thought it was important enough to say those people were mafia it should have been important enough to say why, Are you asking if i think YOU would do that or if anyone would do that?
You personally I have no idea. My favorite game ive played of this you were a baller replacement so i naturally have high expectations of you. Like i don't even really see how that is keeping your options open because you have stated a clear scumread for a number of people so if you randomly start town reading them people would be suspicious.
Anyway it is getting late I'm going to head off so I'm up for what is realistically going to be the deadline tomorrow
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On March 03 2015 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 03 2015 21:31 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know which is better. I'd rather try it out and see what it does, if it's bad then jsut get rid of it because then noone can argue against it. I try to keep it simple.
What's your read on your mom and Mocsta?
Im lean scum on Mocsta. I don't like those pretend scum qt conversations he made doesn't seem useful to me in adding to his read because I have never really seen anyone coach people like that in scum QT's. He also mentioned that he wanted to talk about spelch and me but never ended up talking about me yet was quick to say that he thought my "slip" was important. Could be biased here because of that though. I liked your mom for scum reading you before you reentered the thread because i agreed with that line of thought. But when you came back and actually started pushing your reads more and explaining stuff instead of just calling people mafia i felt like he stuck to his read instead of reevaluating you. This doesn't make him mafia though could just be lazy town so null for now. The problem is your mom scumread me AFTER i had already re-entered the thread. Yeah reading his filter I didn't see that so it is probably more scummy yeah On March 03 2015 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And Breshke, a serious question:
Do you really think if i was mafia i would just call some random people mafia just to keep my options open?
Do you really think it's a possibility? I didn't like that you left the thread without explaining your reads. Obviously if you thought it was important enough to say those people were mafia it should have been important enough to say why, Are you asking if i think YOU would do that or if anyone would do that? You personally I have no idea. My favorite game ive played of this you were a baller replacement so i naturally have high expectations of you. Like i don't even really see how that is keeping your options open because you have stated a clear scumread for a number of people so if you randomly start town reading them people would be suspicious. Anyway it is getting late I'm going to head off so I'm up for what is realistically going to be the deadline tomorrow Okay so walk me through this. You have said these things (originally) now in the last couple of hours or so: - sandroba is not scummy for doing a scummy thing (yes you even argued for that ^^) - you understood your mom's read on me despite it being completely wrong as i have stated in the thread a numerous times in the last couple of pages - you had the same thought your mom did about me calling people mafia and not explaining it further when: - that was not your original argument against me this morning, in fact when i posted "Koshi is scum" you wanted to shoot him! You never stated that as an argument for why i am mafia, yet now you did it. I intentionally asked you about it because what you posted this morning (probably your last night) in thread does not add up with what you are saying now.
- the game you just referenced in your post, the game where i was "really good town" i started the game EXACTLY like i did here. I called two people scum and held off the reasoning for a very long time. Apparently you remember this game quite well since you referenced it, why don't you remember my play in this game at the start of the game is EXACTLY the same?
- you say you don't have an idea if i would throw out random scumreads as mafia. well, you know i do give out scumreads without initially reasoning them as town as i pointed above. You even AGREED with a scumread with me, the Koshi read, regardless of what my reasoning is/was, and now you were calling me mafia for it? Your arguments are really out of place and you are definitely not thinking about the game properly. You are not stupid, which has been proven by your actions in many of the games you have played, so it means you are probably mafia.
urgh got out of bed for this
Yes I didn't think sandroba is scummy because i didn't think about the device being a distraction when town was in a bad way. I intially said that i thought the device would be fine to be used either right away or when town was in a bad way and pointed out some reasons against the later option that occurred to me as i was writing that post. I'm town and the good reason (the one you gave about it being a distraction) did not occur to me so I find it hard to scumread sandroba for not realizing something that I also did not.
I don't get what you don't understand about my read on you. It is not a good assumption to say i remember that game well because I don't so I have no clue if your opening is similar or not. Just because I enjoyed that came doesn't mean i remember everything about it, that is a weird assumption to make.
What I do know is that you were in the thread, called people mafia and then left without explaining it. Yeah I might have agreed with you but without knowing your reasoning i can't know your thought process so i have no idea how you got these reads and that is scummy to me.
I also agreed that your moms read on you was wrong as I have also clearly stated.
Im probably not making sense because its late so im going to bed for reals this time, night.
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That's a shame.
I think batsnacks would have been a good shot aswell for all its worth
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On March 04 2015 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:25 Breshke wrote:
That's a shame.
I think batsnacks would have been a good shot aswell for all its worth as well?How was shooting town a good shot? Was momma that destructive? Hiiiiiiiijole!
Yeah but i see rayns reasoning and wouldn't have told him not to do it had i been in the thread. Yeah a town got shot and thats bad but i didn't disagree with it before the flip.
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On March 04 2015 08:30 rsoultin wrote:
people just you know...stubborn lol ><
Who would you have shot and why?
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On March 04 2015 08:35 rsoultin wrote:
Your Mom? His reads weren't impressive, which was part of the problem.
Filter, Breshke -shoos-
lol i thought that this
On March 04 2015 08:30 rsoultin wrote:
people just you know...stubborn lol ><
Ment that you were telling people to not shoot YM as you were with LS my bad.
Anyway what do you think about bats. He isnt really pushing anything this game other than like one or two posts on mocsta. Isn't his town tell if he pushes anything at all not really seeing it here. Also says he will 100% shoot and doesn't end up even attempting too. Seemingly forcing town to rush there shot IDK?
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On March 04 2015 13:37 Damdred wrote:
Ok, sooo I had a hellish night at work and i'm going to pass out. I'm going to check this post in the morning to see whats after it. Who should I read and give responses on since i'm really behind and kinda thinking theres no hope in catching up with the pace of the thread or keeping up at this rate.
You could read batsnacks if you like. He has a short filter but im not really sure how in touch with the game it would make you.
Just hope it is cell next so there is specific people you can look into
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On March 03 2015 23:06 Mocsta wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=Breshke&view=allBresche filter. Conclusion: Fairly likely to be mafia Recommend to be shotReasoningWishywashy ContentBresche early filter focuses on the "plan" for town to control the shot after 24hrs. This is not typically alignment indicative early on, however, it is interesting to note that Bresche has a focus on establishing "town" reads; and not questioning his "scum" reads. Even more so, given that Rayn has been quite active in the thread. Further, note the confidence Bresche exudes when referring to Tubesock (and to a lesser degree Slam + Koshi + FecalFeast) as town. Everyone knows list collaborations are an easy tool for scum to utilising when feigning contribution. But Bresche begs to differ, offering the generic morsel that this effort is too much to be scum. Which leads us to CongruenceI get no focus in his filter. There is talk but none of it has proper conclusions that are reinforced within *THIS* game. His filter has no consistency in thought. Posts within a short duration jump from target to target; which when combined with the tendency to buddy people as town indicate a motive to blend in and offer meaningless contributions. Possibly best exemplified by: Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 13:34 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sandroba is mafia. On March 03 2015 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is mafia. Can you explain these when you are around rayn? I can get behind a koshi shot though rereading horn it is more similar than i thought it was. ##Vote Koshi & Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 15:10 Breshke wrote:On March 03 2015 14:56 AT.Epiphany wrote:
So here's my scumread on Geript:
Every single time he's been Mafia he's far more aggressive and confrontational than he is as Town. Moreover his mafia games have him rapidly suggesting lynch targets and putting out scumpiles pretty quickly. As a mafia (and not as a Town) he invariably pushes multiple targets and acts aggressively. Here as well, he started pushing Koshi and the moment I made my post, his first reaction (even though I said I'm posting on shots as a follow-up) was to scumread me because my post was filler.
It isn't filler, the first person to post after me recognized as such, and geript has gambled on being aggressive and unpleasant thinking that people will agree with him because I am new to this forum. Look at his main contribution in the thread.
1) He's tried to normalize the idea that there's no point in trying to reach a consensus on a shot because somebody will shoot anyway. What he's really trying to push though, is the idea that it's normal and ok for everyone to take a shot at 24 hrs and the reason he's doing this is because he doesn't want anybody to gain any information from the shot, which is why he's trying to press the line that there's no point reaching a consensus and then lynching anyone who breaks the consensus.
2) He's then tried to press the nonsensical idea of trying to hunt/lynch the 3P although that makes very little sense for reasons that have already been pointed out.
3) He tries to establish credibility by saying "these are the people I'm ok taking a shot". That doesn't prove anything though, especially since at this point he's done nothing useful except to try and debunk our most useful way of gaining information, which is to try and shoot the guy with the most votes.
4) He's been the one to try and turn the thread into a fight by abusing me (a fight he calculated he'll win because no one here knows me).
1) He suggested we nominate someone to shoot so i don't think that he is trying to avoid us lynching a consensus 2) He then later stated that he ment he doesn't care if we shoot mafia or 3p 3)Isn't trying to debunk any plan useful as it can show any weakpoints it has? Yes it could be frustrating but yeah. 4) I dont think this is true. Yeah vets seem to listen to other vets more than newbies but with geript gunning for some of them (rayn for example) how do you think he can count on them to back him? On March 03 2015 14:05 AT.Epiphany wrote:On March 03 2015 13:59 Damdred wrote:
....we aren't even interested in talking about t device, fuck the device we are scum hunting to figure out a shot.
I will yolo shoot you so please actually contribute now that you got that out of your system You should be, I've scum-read you as well now, because you insta-voted PRESS and are trying to avoid discussion. You are most likely scum as well, and I am just as willing to shoot you. Stop threatening the newbie. I ain't backing down to this behaviour. You say you are a newbie here yet you seem to think you know geripts meta fairly well which doesn't really add up. Also I don't like that you promised to talk about the shot before damdred started going hard against you which led me to believe you had thoughts on people other than him yet what you have posted is mostly from after you said you would give thoughts which leads me to believe you had nothing at the time yet you got angry at geript for not waiting for you to post. Im not sure if im making sense or not but if you could give reads on other people that would probably help. Couple points Bresche goes into a lot of detail to debunk Epiphany points on Geript, however, at no point takes a stance on Geript OR EPIPHANYThis is critical. Bresche last 2 paragraphs reads as "Im about to wreck yo", and ends miserley with ... "please post more" Think about this.. town *WANT* to pursue their scumspects. What we get here is Bresche saying this: (1) I want you to hang yourself; or, (2) I want someone else to take the lead with hanging you; or, (3) I am giving myself flexibilty to pursue or withdraw. I havent played mafia in about a year, but to me, this has always been indicative of a mafia mentality.
Since you want people to talk about this mocsta ill give me view.
First of all rayn was a scumread of mine and i did question him i asked him to explain some of his reads(You quote this post later not sure how you missed it). It was clear he wasn't around so yes i moved on. When rayn returned to the thread he did start explaining this reads which i then understood so i then town read him.
Also about tubesock i never town read him for making a list post. I town read him for trying to form a plan which i believed would turn a more scum favored lynch type into a normal lynch. Not only that but he went to the trouble of compiling everyone's reads and promised he would continue tot ally the vote. I believed this made him town because he was actively trying to make the game better for town.
Your Congruence bit is whatever I talk about what I want to and find it hard to get scum reads on D1 and often just find myself jumping around finding towns.
Onto geript and AT your right I never said what i thought of them. That was more out of frustration because Geript was seemingly not even giving AT a chance so while i was finding everything that AT was saying to be wrong I was at least going to try and give him a chance. He then continued to respond to geript and not to me which caused me to not care about the situation especially since geript still wanted to shoot koshi.
Anyway i think Geript is my top town this game partly because he was the first to go against the idea that i was scum for all the same reasons he has before. AT i have no idea i stopped caring about his alignment I would need to reread.
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On March 04 2015 14:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 13:50 Breshke wrote:On March 04 2015 13:37 Damdred wrote:
Ok, sooo I had a hellish night at work and i'm going to pass out. I'm going to check this post in the morning to see whats after it. Who should I read and give responses on since i'm really behind and kinda thinking theres no hope in catching up with the pace of the thread or keeping up at this rate. You could read batsnacks if you like. He has a short filter but im not really sure how in touch with the game it would make you. Just hope it is cell next so there is specific people you can look into I don't get it. Last night I was a scum read to you I make a "case" on you You ignore Then chase someone who called me scum I repost the "case" Still no acknowledement
Soz been at uni was replying to it then
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i just said geript was my top town is that not committing to a read. Even if you think it is a shit reason it is committing to a read.
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On March 04 2015 14:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 13:50 Breshke wrote:On March 04 2015 13:37 Damdred wrote:
Ok, sooo I had a hellish night at work and i'm going to pass out. I'm going to check this post in the morning to see whats after it. Who should I read and give responses on since i'm really behind and kinda thinking theres no hope in catching up with the pace of the thread or keeping up at this rate. You could read batsnacks if you like. He has a short filter but im not really sure how in touch with the game it would make you. Just hope it is cell next so there is specific people you can look into I don't get it. Last night I was a scum read to you I make a "case" on you You ignore Then chase someone who called me scum I repost the "case" Still no acknowledement
Like you say im not committing to any reads yet in those post you say im "chasing someone"
So you obviously think i am forming a scumread on bats even though my post on him was wishy washy yes, yet choose to ignore that to make your accusation sound better.
Also i think the fact that bats said he would shoot you has almost no bearing on your alignment or would even look bad for you if he flips scum because he didn't try and act on it.
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On March 04 2015 14:49 Mocsta wrote:
The qualifier is partly.
Further it is for a personal/fallacious reason that is difficult to read as creditable.
effectively You can recant the read any time you want.
My point stands
I know im town. Geript calls me town when it isnt popular to do so. No reason for him to try pocket me if he was scum there.
On March 04 2015 14:51 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 14:49 Breshke wrote:On March 04 2015 14:02 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2015 13:50 Breshke wrote:On March 04 2015 13:37 Damdred wrote:
Ok, sooo I had a hellish night at work and i'm going to pass out. I'm going to check this post in the morning to see whats after it. Who should I read and give responses on since i'm really behind and kinda thinking theres no hope in catching up with the pace of the thread or keeping up at this rate. You could read batsnacks if you like. He has a short filter but im not really sure how in touch with the game it would make you. Just hope it is cell next so there is specific people you can look into I don't get it. Last night I was a scum read to you I make a "case" on you You ignore Then chase someone who called me scum I repost the "case" Still no acknowledement Like you say im not committing to any reads yet in those post you say im "chasing someone" So you obviously think i am forming a scumread on bats even though my post on him was wishy washy yes, yet choose to ignore that to make your accusation sound better. Also i think the fact that bats said he would shoot you has almost no bearing on your alignment or would even look bad for you if he flips scum because he didn't try and act on it. Finally. Some balls Chasing was literal. You were pestering him. Again it reads for the sake of having to talk. No conviction , no congruence. It certainly doesn't read that you though batsbacks was scummy. rather just stupid.
Explain how i am calling him stupid, heres the post
On March 04 2015 08:39 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:35 rsoultin wrote:
Your Mom? His reads weren't impressive, which was part of the problem.
Filter, Breshke -shoos- lol i thought that this Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 08:30 rsoultin wrote:
people just you know...stubborn lol >< Ment that you were telling people to not shoot YM as you were with LS my bad. Anyway what do you think about bats. He isnt really pushing anything this game other than like one or two posts on mocsta. Isn't his town tell if he pushes anything at all not really seeing it here. Also says he will 100% shoot and doesn't end up even attempting too. Seemingly forcing town to rush there shot IDK?
Yeah it is wishy washy and i should probably just fake confidence and not fence sit as it is a problem in my game but I think it is clear here that i am calling him scummy (saying he isnt playing to his town meta) and not stupid like you say
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On March 04 2015 15:12 Mocsta wrote:
Fine . I take back stupid
But that post you quoted reinforces your scumminess.
Everything with you is qualifiers. Even batsnacks is a contradiction.
And again. Given you said I leaned scum. Your conclusion on batsnacks is not a natural flow of thoughts.
So where did stupid come from? Just saying it because it makes your accusation better?
How is batsnacks a contradiction. Why can a scum batsnacks not say he is going to shoot scum mocsta and then guess what NOT EVEN TRY TO SHOOT.
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On March 04 2015 15:19 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 15:16 Breshke wrote:On March 04 2015 15:12 Mocsta wrote:
Fine . I take back stupid
But that post you quoted reinforces your scumminess.
Everything with you is qualifiers. Even batsnacks is a contradiction.
And again. Given you said I leaned scum. Your conclusion on batsnacks is not a natural flow of thoughts.
So where did stupid come from? Just saying it because it makes your accusation better? How is batsnacks a contradiction. Why can a scum batsnacks not say he is going to shoot scum mocsta and then guess what NOT EVEN TRY TO SHOOT. stupid was a Freudian slip. I was thinking about you when I wrote that. Regarding batsnacks. That logic applies to half the players in the game. Only 2 people attempted to shoot. So what's the point of your statement? That you conveniently apply evidence 'fir for purpose'?
Who else said they were going to shoot? Geript said he probably wouldnt after saying all day he would. SL did but who fuckin knows with SL
If you think im stupid why can't I be town and stupid? Wouldn't that explain no flow in my reads and what not?
My point of my statement is that you saying me thinking batsnacks is scum contradicts me thinking you are scum is bullshit
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Yo mocsta I know you have gotten past this but i finally understand what contradiction you were talking about now.
When i say it is bats town meta for him to push on someone one post saying he is going to shoot you doesn't really cut it.
On March 04 2015 17:44 sicklucker wrote:
Dandred called me town and didnt do anything. Breske focused on one person I didnt find interesting (dont even know who it is) and did nothing
Why are you making up a fake reason. You only wanted to shoot me because you thought it would be funny if i was scum and got shot 3 times in a row or w/e
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On March 04 2015 17:49 sicklucker wrote:
Why are you making up lies to make me look bad? I specifically said in thread thats a tiebreaker and why I was about to shoot you over dandred but I just couldnt decide in time.
On March 04 2015 07:47 sicklucker wrote:
I really want to shoot bresh. Also everytime hes roled scum he died to veg on n1 so it will be hilarious.
No reason here.
On March 04 2015 17:08 sicklucker wrote:
I was highly debating between breske and dandred. But I was hesitant and too slow on the draw.
As for me making sense. It happens I had sound logic as to who was scum in that massive christmas game but people kind of got feed up that all my thoughts came through presents even tho the presents did explain why hf and ritoky were mafia.
Also the bolded stinks of bullshit. You were heavily debating it yet none of your thoughts about it made it to the thread other than the one quoted above? That doesn't sound like SL to me.
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On March 04 2015 18:04 rsoultin wrote:sandroba was another I don't really have a read on yet if you've got thoughts on keir, I'd like to hear them, tube. also lol...in a game of so many players, the difference between top and third town is kinda miniscule  bresh, I know you don't often get many scumreads day 1, but I personally don't mind townreads and reasons as much as other players seem to. can I get a spot check on where you're at right now?
internet cut out and i lost my post but
Geript - reasons stated
Tube - Reasons stated plus he is actually giving reads and trying to solve the game which is what some peoples problem with him was
Slam - Was making sense ealry and pushing the thread forward
FF - I liked how after our talk about my tube townread he realized the conversation wasn't really going anywhere and decided to just drop it to talk about other things, that felt really towny.
Rayn - Can't explain this one that well but I liked a lot of the stuff he has been saying
Rsoul - You do this thing where you post what im thinking as im thinking it. You did it in horn aswell but I also think you are kind of like more standoffish as mafia like you get irritated at people a lot more.
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