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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2015 00:25 GMT
#361
Slam just explained perfectly ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 03 2015 00:26 GMT
#362
Also to answer the question besides with the question, slams line of thought is pretty visible. He tries to trap and he is using logic...and the chupazi is with him this game.

His big post he just posted above this is pretty good also.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 03 2015 00:27 GMT
#363
On March 03 2015 09:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:22 rsoultin wrote:
-_-

I'm cool with an HtS shot.

Also, Breshke's/Tube's idea is pretty good. Does anyone think we should vote for a shooter, too?

I'm unclear on what voting for a shooter accomplishes.

Normalizing an otherwise very scum favored lynch form.

Ah, to add another layer of discouragement for us wildcards? I can live with that
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 03 2015 00:27 GMT
#364
On March 03 2015 09:23 Alakaslam wrote:
I highly doubt that will work. A scum will shoot first; in fact town must take control of it.

Koshi knows this but won't tell why. He is either lazy or scum; wifom.

He then adds that if the shooter misses, they should die. Why?

If we don't take control of the shot, then it has merit to do that; shot wil be used by scum and land on town.

But this doesn't take into account bad town wifom; scumkoshi could say that, wait for a derp town to miss, and then get a free ML target to afk onto.

Yet here is why we should TAKE CONTROL OF THE SHOT; NOT RELINQUISH IT, NOT RANDO SHOOT.

Either way you relinquish it is bad; town loses KP to direct toward scum, and scum gets the possibility of counting on wifom and using it.

Also, opens up possibility of derp hero mindset townie using it poorly AND getting ml.

Whereas, if we unofficially vote on a kill that someone shoots at say, IML style or something, at least we get info from it and are more likely to ACTUALLY hit scum.

Anyone who shoots outside the vote, Koshi rule applies.


I agree with this.

I think we need to have it decided before the 24 hour mark who we are going to shoot and then anyone that is around just sends it in because it doesn't matter who shoots just that the target who is selected gets shot.

This also needs to all be done before the shoot deadline opens or whatever because obviously nothing is stopping the person who is going to be shot (town or mafia) from just shooting someone else to save themselves which gives considerably less information
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 00:27 GMT
#365
On March 03 2015 09:21 Damdred wrote:
How was it making RS look bad? I'm not exactly following what you mean?


I find it odd, if not scummy how Slam gets from "I don't care if you shoot Onegu" to "not being concerned who I shoot" as if he's making her look worse than what she's trying to convey. I could understand for example if he disagrees with an Onegu scumread but that's not how it read.

It's one post, and generally Slam posts don't jump out at me like that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 00:27 GMT
#366
EBWOP - It's not a strong read, but something that I noticed that seemed off.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 03 2015 00:28 GMT
#367
Also please can you guys please stick to the game in question? Half the posts in this thread are pretty hard for me to decifer what the hell people are even talking about, tons of people randomly aggroing each other for no good reason, tons of pointless spam. Let's keep it straight foward please.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 03 2015 00:29 GMT
#368
On March 03 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:23 Breshke wrote:
Damdred can you explain why slam is pretty obvious town? I don't understand how you got this read.


Have you played with scum slam before?


No i have played with slam like once of twice one he replaced in one i replaced out

On March 03 2015 09:26 Damdred wrote:
Also to answer the question besides with the question, slams line of thought is pretty visible. He tries to trap and he is using logic...and the chupazi is with him this game.

His big post he just posted above this is pretty good also.


Does he not attempt traps in his scumgame? I agree that his big post is really good.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2015 00:30 GMT
#369
Basically a town slam helps town and a scum slam does not. Plus town slams are way more interesting and fun to play with than scum slams.

Yes I am tone/meta-reading him lol so take it as it is.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 03 2015 00:30 GMT
#370
On March 03 2015 09:27 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:23 Alakaslam wrote:
I highly doubt that will work. A scum will shoot first; in fact town must take control of it.

Koshi knows this but won't tell why. He is either lazy or scum; wifom.

He then adds that if the shooter misses, they should die. Why?

If we don't take control of the shot, then it has merit to do that; shot wil be used by scum and land on town.

But this doesn't take into account bad town wifom; scumkoshi could say that, wait for a derp town to miss, and then get a free ML target to afk onto.

Yet here is why we should TAKE CONTROL OF THE SHOT; NOT RELINQUISH IT, NOT RANDO SHOOT.

Either way you relinquish it is bad; town loses KP to direct toward scum, and scum gets the possibility of counting on wifom and using it.

Also, opens up possibility of derp hero mindset townie using it poorly AND getting ml.

Whereas, if we unofficially vote on a kill that someone shoots at say, IML style or something, at least we get info from it and are more likely to ACTUALLY hit scum.

Anyone who shoots outside the vote, Koshi rule applies.


I agree with this.

I think we need to have it decided before the 24 hour mark who we are going to shoot and then anyone that is around just sends it in because it doesn't matter who shoots just that the target who is selected gets shot.

This also needs to all be done before the shoot deadline opens or whatever because obviously nothing is stopping the person who is going to be shot (town or mafia) from just shooting someone else to save themselves which gives considerably less information

If that person were town, they should defend themselves and make reads versus such poor play because they would surely die next cycle.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 03 2015 00:30 GMT
#371
I propose a shot count vote. Personally, I think it's scummy to just shoot at 24hrs without any real discussion of it.

We can enforce this pretty easily if a few of you pledge to vote the person who shoots outside of the vote. Pretty simple.

Day 1 Shot Count

Half The Sky (1): Geript, Reyn
Onegu (1): Alakaslam


Not voted (lots): Everyone else

As it currently stands, Half the Sky is slated to be shot


Countdown:


Press Device:Reyn, FF, Tube, Damdred, Toad
Guard: Sandroba
Destroy:
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 00:33 GMT
#372
On March 03 2015 09:30 rsoultin wrote:
Basically a town slam helps town and a scum slam does not. Plus town slams are way more interesting and fun to play with than scum slams.

Yes I am tone/meta-reading him lol so take it as it is.


I'll be completely honest, I can't meta-read him for crap so I've just been taking him at face value which is why I scum-read him when something seemed off.

Last post was quite helpful though, so I'm not inclined to shoot him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 00:33 GMT
#373
I have not actually send in my press device pm yet, if that matters
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 03 2015 00:34 GMT
#374
I'll post the Shot count at the 2hr, 1hr, .5 hr and 15min, 5 min marks.

Then I think we all shoot the winning voter as it seems the first poster with ##shoot: X wins.

If the first person shoots outside of that we lynch them.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 03 2015 00:34 GMT
#375
Hi guys. Lets shoot someone !
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 00:34 GMT
#376
Tube, how are you tracking people who are keeping open the option of shooting multiple people? Geript wanted to shoot me but pretty sure he was also looking at Onegu and Rayn to an extent.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 03 2015 00:34 GMT
#377
On March 03 2015 09:33 Toadesstern wrote:
I have not actually send in my press device pm yet, if that matters


Ididn't either, just keeping track.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 03 2015 00:35 GMT
#378
FF town. He literally rolls vt everygame and he furious
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 00:36 GMT
#379
On March 03 2015 09:34 Half the Sky wrote:
Tube, how are you tracking people who are keeping open the option of shooting multiple people? Geript wanted to shoot me but pretty sure he was also looking at Onegu and Rayn to an extent.

we just do it like with votes from now on. There's plenty of people I want dead in games, but only one I can vote.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 03 2015 00:36 GMT
#380
On March 03 2015 09:34 Half the Sky wrote:
Tube, how are you tracking people who are keeping open the option of shooting multiple people? Geript wanted to shoot me but pretty sure he was also looking at Onegu and Rayn to an extent.


Well, once this actually starts I think we should all start voting now and do it. I counted him wanting to shoot you only because it came first and he talked about it more. But I think that for the rest of the day I'm only going to count the shoot vote if it's in proper format:

##Shoot: Someone
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