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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 08 2015 19:25 GMT
#2899
Apparently, I can't post video's from my phone. But I can from my comp.

Why you don't want too hot a girlfriend. It's science, you know it's true.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 09 2015 22:05 GMT
#2974
If epiphany and kuru I don't vote we lost didn't we?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 09 2015 22:05 GMT
#2975
Kurumi
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 09 2015 22:17 GMT
#2978
On March 10 2015 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote Count
Onegu (9): Onegu, Sepulchre,geript, Tubesock, Breshke, LightningStrike, kitaman27, Keirathi,FecalFeast, Alakaslam
batsnacks (1): batsnacks
Alakaslam (1): Alakaslam
FecalFeast (0): FecalFeast
kitaman27 (0): kitaman27
LightningStrike (0): LightningStrike


Not Voted (2): AT.Epiphany, Kurumi

At the current vote count, Onegu will be mayor. You have to vote here.


Doh, just saw that Slam is on Onegu.

I'm dumb.

Just panicking I think there are 4 mafia on Onegu and will jump to Bats.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 09 2015 22:19 GMT
#2979
Course I'm still retarded.

If Slam is the 6th, then we lost if Epiphany and Kurumi are town (which I believe) and they don't vote.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 09 2015 22:23 GMT
#2982
On March 10 2015 07:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 07:17 Tubesock wrote:
On March 10 2015 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote Count
Onegu (9): Onegu, Sepulchre,geript, Tubesock, Breshke, LightningStrike, kitaman27, Keirathi,FecalFeast, Alakaslam
batsnacks (1): batsnacks
Alakaslam (1): Alakaslam
FecalFeast (0): FecalFeast
kitaman27 (0): kitaman27
LightningStrike (0): LightningStrike


Not Voted (2): AT.Epiphany, Kurumi

At the current vote count, Onegu will be mayor. You have to vote here.


Doh, just saw that Slam is on Onegu.

I'm dumb.

Just panicking I think there are 4 mafia on Onegu and will jump to Bats.

I thought you were townreading me what has changed? Today there wasn't anything interesting to talk other than who to vote for Mayor because of the red check by Onegu onto Geript. I hate days like this where the Cop instantly claim there red check because the day just becomes boring.


If you are town then I have 0 to worry about. You are not ruled out. THAT was what led to my demise when HTS beat us in that newby game. I ruled her out as mafia.

You are not posting a lot. This quote is not consistent with how I would expect you to post when you're town. To me you are 50/50 as I'm getting stronger and stronger town reads on others.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 09 2015 22:24 GMT
#2983
On March 10 2015 07:21 Breshke wrote:
Tube there is only 5 mafia left. on phone so cant look at vote thread but if slam moved to onegu and there is 10 on onegu mafia cant hijack this


Oh duh.

I forgot Robik killed Sandroba.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 09 2015 22:27 GMT
#2985
This was starting to feel like the end of my last newbie game. We all were voting on a scummy looking Jarjarbinks. The three top "towns" posted that the last three scum were JJB, Celest, and Scott. We thought we were auto.

Feelign scared that Geript just gave up, Bats is basically scum claiming along with Fecal doing nothing. Too easy is scary.

That said, no one can leave Onegu.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 09 2015 22:46 GMT
#2987
On March 10 2015 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 07:27 Tubesock wrote:
This was starting to feel like the end of my last newbie game. We all were voting on a scummy looking Jarjarbinks. The three top "towns" posted that the last three scum were JJB, Celest, and Scott. We thought we were auto.

Feelign scared that Geript just gave up, Bats is basically scum claiming along with Fecal doing nothing. Too easy is scary.

That said, no one can leave Onegu.

This guy is going to fail the mission


If I'm mafia I wouldn't be able to walk. Bussing HARD 2 partners, early scamming Bats would take balls big enough to prevent me from walking. Especially one that was Towns by most in the thread.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 09 2015 23:36 GMT
#3002
So,

Bats and Fecal mafia.

then 2 in

Lightningstrike
Alakaslam
Sepulchre
Keirathi

I think Keirathi is most likely town of the 4. I'd like to hear what Kurumi thinks about Kei. Along with the other confirmed towns, Breshke and Slam.

Sep. I felt like he's "off". But then I think about the Geript "ninja" set up and wifom myself into black holes.

I really don't know about Slam. He does have 3 days to prove useful though. I think he's 65% town.

I've been thinking a lot about Lightningstrike lately. I don't know.

Unless people think Bats is possibly town, he's my next pick. Even Fecal who I was pretty sold was the ninja is more useful.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 09 2015 23:37 GMT
#3003
On March 10 2015 08:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 08:06 Onegu wrote:
Well it's tube, me and Kita.

Not sure why I need to confirm pass when it says town auto pass...

The reason is so that it's not obvious when a mafia passes the mission. "Oh yeah we're just waiting for confirmation from a player...." would be pretty revealing if everyone didn't have to confirm.

Sorry for saying you'd fail the mission tube


No worries!

Please contribute, you are next in 6 days.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 00:00 GMT
#3022
Yeouch

Well, I was proud to get Geript and Sandroba. Bad reasons but still right I guess.

I was wondering why Kurumi didn't post anything during the day. Not enough to scum him for a few days though.

well done mafia
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 00:38 GMT
#3062
On March 10 2015 09:22 scott31337 wrote:
Town was crap not seeing the claim Sandroba and how it would work for mafia - it was obvious to me.


I saw it eventually, and I was pushing to kill Sandroba till the spirit mindfucked me.

How should I have gotten people to read my posts more?

I'd like feedback from you guys if you're willing please.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 00:50 GMT
#3071
On March 10 2015 09:45 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 09:32 Toadesstern wrote:
lynch him on d2, not shoot him.


Ahhh so you are asking why I lynched SL instead of Sandroba? Thought I explained in obs qt.

I could not decide between the two. They both looked bad. I overthought the whole thing and I was TRing (at that time) geript, Kita, Breshke, etc basically it was herd mentality and most of them were voting SL, and LS and Tube were voting Sandroba.

I can't tell you how much time I put into reading and re-reading SL's filter and trying to meta him.

sicklucker is a very difficult player to read, and I became paranoid that if we lynched Sandroba and he was town, that I'd be kicking myself in the rear for not killing sicklucker.

I also completely ignored the spirit messages - I thought it was just all a distraction. That was the sad part.

And Tube, you scumread me for not getting mechanics. I have misunderstand mechanics at least twice before in games...as both alignments.


I was also actually thinking that you were not really caring about the game. In your reads you basically only said X person did this in Y game so Z. Everything I read from you was a meta comparison. I felt like you were not invested in OUR game. That's why I scum read you. What I posted was also saying that I thought Robik was right. He claimed and didn't shoot you, so you should have been mafia.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 00:52 GMT
#3073
On March 10 2015 09:45 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 09:38 Tubesock wrote:
On March 10 2015 09:22 scott31337 wrote:
Town was crap not seeing the claim Sandroba and how it would work for mafia - it was obvious to me.


I saw it eventually, and I was pushing to kill Sandroba till the spirit mindfucked me.

How should I have gotten people to read my posts more?

I'd like feedback from you guys if you're willing please.

That was really a big clusterfuck. Had I been around, I would have told him not to make that claim. Or at least, nott o make it on Onegu. And I feel like I could have made some good arguments for why it wouldn't make sense for mafia sandro to claim cop there, but by the time I got back in the thread, the whole thing was already over and SL was dead.

I feel like a LOT of the reason people were so 99% sure that sandro was scum was just because of SL starting that whole "no one has roles" thing which could have been stopped easily just by pointing to the OP.


See, I thought people were towning Sandroba for getting the cop check. It was basically Sicklucker vs me. And no one was believing what I was saying that Sandroba would have HUGE motive to claim in his position.

But I didn't think anyone was listening, except for Geript.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 00:55 GMT
#3076
On March 10 2015 09:52 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote count
sicklucker (10): Onegu, Sepulchre, geript, Breshke, Alakaslam, sandroba, Alakaslam, kitaman27, Half the Sky, ObiWanShinobi, Tubesock
Sandroba (6): sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Tubesock, AT.Epiphany, Half the Sky, Mocsta, Oatsmaster, LightningStrike, IAmRobik
Onegu (1): Kurumi
Tubesock (2): batsnacks, sicklucker

Not voted (1): Keirathi

Looking through all the VCAs done on both sides (town and scum), that massive town clusterfuck...can't blame all of us in the pileup for blaming each other. Several people ignored Kurumi as an isolated vote, thought that should have given him away if his trolling and unexplained sporadic reads didn't.


The other thing I couldn't understand is that you were using mechanics to base your decisions on.

I don't understand ANY of mafia's mechanics really. So, I have to find things that can be true no matter what.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 01:37 GMT
#3118
I need to articulate better.

I saw and posted Rayne's and Toad's last lists that scummed Sandroba.
I saw how easy it was to make the cell me vs Sicklucker and how much a cop check benefits Sandroba.

It took awhile but after Geript was repeating how he never lies as mafia I realized that mafia having a cop check has value in this game. Cop check someone who's green and night kill them later which would have "confirmed" Sandroba town. Lying about the check, what if town or ninja killed Onegu and he flipped ninja? Then we would have killed Sandroba.

Why didn't people think about this more? Why am I so ignored?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 01:44 GMT
#3129
On March 10 2015 10:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 10:36 Keirathi wrote:
On March 10 2015 10:34 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 10 2015 10:30 Keirathi wrote:
On March 10 2015 10:26 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 10 2015 10:24 Keirathi wrote:
On March 10 2015 10:18 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 10 2015 10:16 sicklucker wrote:
I think when two people are pitted against each other (me and tube) but both INSTANTLY jump to the conclusion its fake instead of going after each other then that third party is always mafia.

I think people ignored this fact too much

it wasn't fake at all. It was just not alignment indicative, why should it be? He picked Onegu because there was 0% of Onegu being ever lynched in that Cell. Everyone was townreading him during d1. So dishing out a green check on someone who already was townread but almost everyone should not have mattered at all.

Was everyone townreading him day 1? I don't remember that. When i made my case/points about him being mafia during night 1, no one contested them or anything, and afaik I didn't remember anyone hard-towning him at that point anyways. Maybe like 1 person.

Rayn and I both had him as town. Pretty sure there were more than just us two?

I just looked back. You had him as null, then rayn said "I feel like he is kinda playing like I expect" and then you said "I agree".

Those are like the weakest town reads ever :p

I had him as town in my sheet that I posted though. Sure it's a super weak read but when in the same Cell as someone labeled "KILL IT WITH FIRE" as well as two nulls that's more than enough lol

Your sheet had him as null? Or did you post an updated one and I just didn't scroll down far enough?

Edit: This was the one I was looking at: http://i.imgur.com/qCM4NLA.png

why does noone read the fucking sheet.... I include some basic explanations to it for a reason.


For what it's worth, your list and Rayne's were the ignition to my theory which turned out to be correct.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 01:47 GMT
#3133
On March 10 2015 10:43 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 10:37 Tubesock wrote:
I need to articulate better.

I saw and posted Rayne's and Toad's last lists that scummed Sandroba.
I saw how easy it was to make the cell me vs Sicklucker and how much a cop check benefits Sandroba.

It took awhile but after Geript was repeating how he never lies as mafia I realized that mafia having a cop check has value in this game. Cop check someone who's green and night kill them later which would have "confirmed" Sandroba town. Lying about the check, what if town or ninja killed Onegu and he flipped ninja? Then we would have killed Sandroba.

Why didn't people think about this more? Why am I so ignored?

Playing devil's advocate: what if sandroba was town, and he did actually check Onegu (which I still think would have been a solid check overall).

Sure, your scenario is possible (and was the case), but why aren't the other scenarios possible? Why, in this specific case, is that scenario the only one that makes sense and make sandro scum? There is more to making an argument than just seeing a scenario and thinking "That makes sense, that must be how it happened!"


Ah well, I thought about it's most likely. I knew I was town, I believe that mafia could only green or ninja check onegu. So, the only options were Sicklucker and Sandroba. And mafia Sicklucker would bury me. He would never take the word of some weirdo over a cop claim.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 10 2015 01:58 GMT
#3147
On March 10 2015 10:53 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 10:47 Tubesock wrote:
On March 10 2015 10:43 Keirathi wrote:
On March 10 2015 10:37 Tubesock wrote:
I need to articulate better.

I saw and posted Rayne's and Toad's last lists that scummed Sandroba.
I saw how easy it was to make the cell me vs Sicklucker and how much a cop check benefits Sandroba.

It took awhile but after Geript was repeating how he never lies as mafia I realized that mafia having a cop check has value in this game. Cop check someone who's green and night kill them later which would have "confirmed" Sandroba town. Lying about the check, what if town or ninja killed Onegu and he flipped ninja? Then we would have killed Sandroba.

Why didn't people think about this more? Why am I so ignored?

Playing devil's advocate: what if sandroba was town, and he did actually check Onegu (which I still think would have been a solid check overall).

Sure, your scenario is possible (and was the case), but why aren't the other scenarios possible? Why, in this specific case, is that scenario the only one that makes sense and make sandro scum? There is more to making an argument than just seeing a scenario and thinking "That makes sense, that must be how it happened!"


Ah well, I thought about it's most likely. I knew I was town, I believe that mafia could only green or ninja check onegu. So, the only options were Sicklucker and Sandroba. And mafia Sicklucker would bury me. He would never take the word of some weirdo over a cop claim.


Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 10:16 sicklucker wrote:
I think when two people are pitted against each other (me and tube) but both INSTANTLY jump to the conclusion its fake instead of going after each other then that third party is always mafia.

I think people ignored this fact too much


Game literally solved and I screamed about it but no one cared


Yeah, like why were we being ignored?
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