[T] Jack of All Trades Mafia - Page 11

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 06:46 GMT

#2825

My point about Robik. I'm thinking about the value of knowing his motivations. Do they meet up with towns at the moment? Enemy of my enemy and such.

Onegu, I'm less certain of his motivation. AND I think if he were mayor, why shoot Geript? He has a red check on him. He should shoot me.

So, a vote for Onegu means a dead Tubesock. If you guys think I'm scum then go for it. Why bother killing Geript, since he has the red check?

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 06:52 GMT

#2829

On March 08 2015 15:48 Breshke wrote:

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On March 08 2015 15:40 Tubesock wrote:

On March 08 2015 15:33 Onegu wrote:

On March 08 2015 15:26 Tubesock wrote:
My mayor preferences have not changed.

Kithaman27, I really like your list. I would like you to consider Half the Sky also. She claims that the "mechanics" of what happened is what pushed her off Sicklucker. She was criticizing me for not thinking about them and feigning helping me by talking about it, and asking me to clarify my thought process. She did the exact same thing as mafia in our newbie game only she was asking Jarjarbinks about his algorithm.

Someone who was thinking so much about the mechanics probably should have realized that having 4 KP that could hit whenever would be balanced enough that there can't be vigi's too. We are in a bad spot because of the shurikens. Imagine if we had vigi shots too? That's crazy.

Note her vote time stamp and the Breaking News post. She turned the vote from Sandroba favored at 9-7 to 8 - 8 and then unfortunately Obi hammered Sick and that's the end of it. She was the key.

On March 07 2015 06:38 Half the Sky wrote:
##unvote
##vote sicklucker

On March 07 2015 07:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

BREAKING NEWS
A Message from the Spirit of Benevolence

I gave Sandro a check.No way he's mafia.Tone & reasoning 99% town sandro.Claimed check only makes sense for town.No sane mafia motivation.SL likely mafia.Msgs lmtd & this 1 wstfl, but ncssry -syllo

I like Robik for mayor.

He knows that town needs some dead mafia or he loses. He's motivated to find mafia. We give him an extra KP, he's going to use it to kill the ninja or mafia. He has a shuriken to hit again. He's on town side, because he knows that the other ninja has no shots. The other ninja can't lynch him, and as far as I'm concerned he's helped town so much by claiming ninja and I for one will push for him to win his condition.

Geript doesn't lie as mafia and I believe him. He's going to shoot who he thinks is ninja. Is it difficult to think he believes Robik's claim?

What's the downside to Robik being mayor?

We need town as mayor, what if robik believs Geript and decides he has to play along to win as Geript comes in and say you have to choose me and your top 2 scum reads if you do that we will shoot the opposite ninja and let you win.

Basicly I'm almost confirmed town, you need to vote for me if town is to have a chance in this game. If we accidentally choose mafia its game over or at least almost game over.

Pick me for mayor.

LS you need to vote me now, same with bats and the rest of you fools.

I would as I believe you are town. I also believe Geript is mafia. I also know I am town. So, I elect you, you kill Geript, then by your agenda you lynch me. Then town loses.

This doesn't matter. If Robik is mayor onegu will still try to lynch you the next day anyway. The only way we arn't electing onegu as mayor is if you believe that geript and onegu made this play going for the win as we are in mylo. But I have already explained I don't think that is the case.

Onegu who are you thinking of sending on the mission. Also do you know if you can send youself?

I agree that Geript and Onegu are not in a play together. Onegu is confirmed town. Syllo sees that in no world would Sandroba check a mafiamate. I mean that's so insane I don't and can't even believe that.

And you're right. Onegu will try to lynch me anyway.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 06:57 GMT

#2833

On March 08 2015 15:51 Onegu wrote:
Kita, chezniu, and I'm still thinking about #3

I nominate Breshke.

Vet him. If he's on your basic page, and you think he's critically thinking about the game then use him.

If you are certain that Kita and Chez are town (I've said I am lots of times) then you can use me. As your 2nd mafia pick, I can't vote to fail the mission. If it fails, you know that 2 in there are mafia, and you can't be wrong about both of those guys. If Kita and Chez are mafia, they deserve to win this game anyway.

So, even as mafia I would have no choice but to vote pass.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 07:06 GMT

#2838

On March 08 2015 15:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Could you explain why kurumi is town?

If you are asking me:

So, my first game was in Carol of the Bells with a town Alakaslam. Slam had some weird posts that were pretty cryptic and most people were just ignoring them. One stood out to me because it concerned subject matter I think I am pretty knowledgeable at.

I was lost and had no idea what was going on that game. I set out to figure out what he meant by that post.

I did the same thing with Kurumi. It was obvious he was looking for people who cared enough to think about his posting. Mafia wouldn't bother figuring it out. I did. What did it for me was he was a little cryptic back to me in his response. Unlike Sicklucker and a couple others.

He said he wasn't concerned with the ones in the cell. He said something about providence and how it didn't matter as everyone in there is probably going to die. (I responded with a "going west" reference which is a metaphor for dying in my culture). It dawned on me that he was right, that Onegu was going to die in the night as he was a confirmed town. Sick and I were to die, and then finally Sandroba would die when town realized that SL and I were town. Although the ninja thing sped things up and we can't afford 2 dead townies.

Why would mafia Kurumi push to help me with something like that? He had more posts helping me out. Although, I wish his last post came sooner. It's tough for me to realize that I'm creating future WIFOM by talking about everything I am thinking.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 07:09 GMT

#2840

On March 08 2015 16:01 geript wrote:
I forgot how much fun it is to be outed scum. I don't think I've had so much fun in a long time.

You scare me. I really enjoy playing with you.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 07:12 GMT

#2842

On March 08 2015 16:08 Breshke wrote:

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Tube there is 16 alive right now

thats 10 - 6

Misslynch today 9 - 6

After mafia kills 7 - 6

And we lose. That is also assuming mafia doesn't kill ninjas. so putting one possible mafia in the team to try work out their allighnment is a terrible idea

Hence I nominate you. Although, you can WIFOM if I'm mafia making a play and actually not wanting you in.

Being a unanimous vote would be crazy. It would mean you pick 1 non town and mafia wins a shot. That's horrible right?

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 07:25 GMT

#2847

On March 08 2015 16:22 Breshke wrote:

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Yes and no. Like this way we literally get 3 confirmed town when we get out of this day

I like that you are saying i should be in because i know im town i think kita is the town hero geript should have been but I have no idea about chez. For me unless chez is mafia there isn't much mafia incentive for you to suggest me.

Do you want me to elaborate more on why I think Kurumi is town?

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 07:37 GMT

#2850

On March 08 2015 16:30 Breshke wrote:

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If you think you can. I see your reasonings but it just doesn't feel that towny to me

Hmm. It's basically I felt like he was helping me and not necessarily buddying up to me. I like that he's not seeking out people, but will interact with anyone who does him. He also throws in some reads (course he has to no matter what) but it really boils down to he makes me think more and gives me ideas.

But you are right, he is not making the game easier for town.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 08:19 GMT

#2851

While you read Sepulchure will you think about / if he is taking too much credit for his work? There is a difference of "YES I did it!" and propogandizing productivity for being town.

Did you or any of your town reads do ANY bragging about what they've done? Aside from Sicklucker who always does that.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 09:40 GMT

#2854

On March 08 2015 18:21 Breshke wrote:

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This is bullshit fyi. Mafia wins without having to even kill a ninja. 100% they will fuck you over for the lolz

Breshke is right.

I also just realized something. Sandroba "checked" Onegu so Geript could have a reason to town him. Onegu scummed Geript for Geript being wrong on his Onegu read.

Who suspected Geript? Raynepelikoneet, Toadesstern, me and Onegu. Sandroba was trying to protect Geript.

Ninja isn't too in danger though. New device means new powers. Maybe doc. Easy doc save.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 09:46 GMT

#2855

All we need is Syllo to random gift a doc type ability to town and we save the ninja.

mafia needs 2 shots to kill the ninja. Vest takes one, doc saves the other, ninja lives, no towns die.

Town has something to offer you ninja.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 10:55 GMT

#2857

On March 08 2015 19:43 Breshke wrote:

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I forgot they had a vest. that makes it even less likely mafia will win with one of them. They arnt going to send both KP onto one person that they "thik" is the ninja no way too risky because they don't win if they are wrong. Do the maths

Tube are you still around who would your 3 man team be? Anyone else feel free to answer this aswell

If I were mayor, it would be Onegu, Kitaman and Kurumi. I could easily put you in there too. As far as I'm concerned you 4 are the only towns outside of me.

I think Epiphany is next most likely. I actually like his filter. I think I just disliked him because I thought he should have thicker skin, but that's actually really stupid of me.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 11:11 GMT

#2860

On March 08 2015 19:57 Breshke wrote:

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Do you not have a problem that I pushed the town lynch when for you it is basically confirmed was town Vs mafia leading wagons

Assuming you mean Sandroba vs Sicklucker. Not exactly. I felt so far throughout the game you have asked good questions. I'm trying to learn how to push cases and leave out bad reasoning. It's why it gets ignored so much and I create derpeference. If I would have just thought more about it, and realized why Onegu was chosen then I think my argument would have been better.

I saw you actually search and investigate. You cared more about things in ways that I could relate too. Also, for most of the game I feel like I am reading with the same eyes you are. I was talking to Rsoultin about you, although for some reason I typed Obi instead. Although at the time I was pretty drunk and a bit dizzy reading my notes.

So, no I could see your reasons. If I didn't have my Tinfoil I would have pushed the same for the same reasons and ones I posted about Sicklucker.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 11:26 GMT

#2862

LightningStrike,

What do you think of Half The Sky?

Sheep Onegu please.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 14:44 GMT

#2875

Day 2 is a perfect example of why the puzzle of mafia is so much fun. It's so hard, no matter if you are town or mafia. If it were easy it would be boring....zzzzzzz.

Begin by reading Half the Sky's filter from page 6.

On March 07 2015 03:11 Half the Sky wrote:
I can sum up in three words at the moment: fuck my life. Honestly quite difficult.

On March 07 2015 05:55 Half the Sky wrote:
What is killing me is that sandroba is also looking even worse than before esp with his one of his last set of answers to Kita.

On March 07 2015 06:28 Half the Sky wrote:

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I'm not trying to be cynical here, but did you flip a coin or are you going off the copcheck?

On March 07 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
Actually PLEASE DON'T READ scratch that last post - you justified based on the mechanics way before. I forgot that.

On March 07 2015 06:32 Half the Sky wrote:
I shouldn't be ignoring the mechanics either. I've been too focused on behaviour. And I am towning geript and Kita.

We still only have 2 claims for abilities? God. It's sooo hard!

page 7 now:

On March 07 2015 06:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Fuck my life. The mechanics, I just don't even.

I'm switching. If sicklucker is town, I seriously am going to hate you all.

On March 07 2015 08:03 Half the Sky wrote:
FUCK.

On March 07 2015 08:04 Half the Sky wrote:
Fuck my life.

On March 07 2015 08:05 Half the Sky wrote:
This is so fucking frustrating. Holy shit, fuck this game.

On March 07 2015 08:15 Half the Sky wrote:

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Apparently you've been out of the thread, relatively unaware or simply ignoring how many of us were deliberating on these two for how long? I'm upset (and so is Breshke) after putting in this much work that we mislynched. If you can't understand that, then you're either grossly ignorant or scum trying to find some BS reason to scumread someone.

Pretty good job of projecting that she cares about this game. But she sure seems to hate it.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 14:59 GMT

#2876

Dear CEO Chezinu,

Thank you for your wisdom. I would also like to hear your thoughts on Onegu. I believed you thought he was ninja, so lynching him would show that Sandroba is mafia and would remove the other ninja. I believe that Onegu was used as a protector for Geript until I muddied up TEAM plan A. Now they are on B which explains why they killed outside of confirm town and cell. Maybe they didn't expect the Benevolent spirit to believe that Tubesock maybe wasn't so stupid, maybe he is the 1%. The spirit KNOWS the soulread would NEVER fakeclaim a TEAM. The check was REAL. Mafia wants to know the ninja.

If Onegu is ninja, how would Geript not be caught for changing his scumread of Onegu so easily?

I believe Onegu is Corporation. Is my documentation faulty?

Your loyal file clerk,

Tubesock

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 15:28 GMT

#2877

Onegu.

You know your check on Geript is real. You think that if Geript flips mafia then I am mafia.

Think about what the mafia QT would look like if that were true considering my actions this game.

Day 1. softly scummed Geript.
my last post prior to Night 1 - testimonial type post documenting Geripts scumminess
Day 2 - pushed heavily Geripts scumminess despite it being IMPOSSIBLE to kill Geript.
Night 3 - Still didn't stop pushing Geript.

Geript fought till you Checked. If I did that all as mafia, what do you think the possibility is that he wouldn't have quit before?

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 17:52 GMT

#2889

Thank you thank you Snakeeyes!

Syllogism actually immensely helped town by gifting cop to Onegu.

As SnakeEyes was my favorite GI Joe, you are my favorite "TOWN".

When there are 2 anti-towns remaining, I will gladly offer my sword to your preference, then lynch the other in case it was wrong. If there is some other scheme that you prefer that still allows town to win I'll push it after Geript and Half The Sky die.

Thank you.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 19:11 GMT

#2896

On March 09 2015 03:54 IAmRobik wrote:

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Huh?

You are unlyncheable. You are unkilleable with no help till at least the second night.

Mafia wants to know who the ninja's are so they don't waste their only kp. Town wants you alive so that your enemy can function as a Veteran.

I'm saying, that if Stormshadow gets hit he won't die. We kill them. You win.

Much better situation than whatever Geript is saying.

Tubesock

United States2726 Posts

March 08 2015 19:14 GMT

#2897

I'm also saying that once we have breathing room (another mafia lynch after Geript dies) then I'll push your choice of who the other ninja is.

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