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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 07:35 GMT
#1464
That's actually a pretty good point Keir (re Slytherin). I'd feel really dumb if I got fooled by a busy mafia two games in a row.

The second meh.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 07:37 GMT
#1466
On March 04 2015 16:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 16:21 geript wrote:
On March 04 2015 16:17 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2015 16:13 Keirathi wrote:
On March 04 2015 16:08 rsoultin wrote:
That's not how I read that, Keir? Can you explain?

It's the "rayn is the best shot in the long run" thing. Not "rayn is mafia and he should die" or whatever.

And basically the same thing with Koshi. "I don't really think Koshi is mafia, but I would be okay if someone shot him".


Okay, that makes sense. His massive case on rayn was ick. Like, I felt dirty even attempting to read it.

It's really weird because it's not even a post on Your Mom being town in any clear way either. Like there's lots of little things really bug me about it.


Lol you bastards are going to make me actually deep-read his shit, aren't you? ><

The physically ill comment was not an exaggeration. I hate it when people feel the need to add verbage to make something look scummier instead of just presenting it straight, and sepu basically did the epitome of that. Okay, give me a minute.

Let me twist your arm Rsoultin.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 07:39 GMT
#1467
I'll be around for a bit but my eyes need a break. I'm getting a little dizzy.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 09:45 GMT
#1522
On March 04 2015 18:29 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 18:24 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 18:22 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 18:20 Onegu wrote:
On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:
On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?

if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.

anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game



No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads.

Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie.

I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point.


Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn.

Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town?



Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming.


I kinda relate to the not enough gut churning, but you don't have 1 person you don't like?


Oops I missed this. You mean Geript is mafia. Other reasonings?


Like if it wasn't for Geript scum reading me I'd have him as another strong town read. Just he is someone I expect to correctly read me.

@Rayn if I came out with a scum read on you at this point what would you think of my alignment? It's the same thing with Geript for me.

Watching league. Do you honestly think that how you've played the game so far has even been reasonably similar to your recent town games?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 15:44 GMT
#1573
Kita so I believe it's morning now.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 15:51 GMT
#1578
Maybe add Mocsta to that list too.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 16:32 GMT
#1593
On March 05 2015 00:49 kitaman27 wrote:
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On March 05 2015 00:44 geript wrote:
Kita so I believe it's morning now.


Prioritizing things I find relevant over things you find relevant. About to go into a meeting, but I'll try to fit it in afterwards.

And to be fair, if I'm looking at your list, you better let me know how you feel about Keirathi, Epiphany, Damdred, Fecal, Tube

Keirathi I think his town. His play this game reminds me of Slytherin. Like in that game he'd just sort of comment on things both as a point of conversation and because he's interested in them.
Epiphany I also think is town. He attacked me in like the most ludicrous way ever. Plus he seems like he really cares about his reads and he's really opinionated. Like when anyone attacks him, then he's really quick to snap back at them. That's something I see far more out of town than mafia.
Damdred. Kinda tough to tell. Like as of late Damdred's sort of been a bit happier to play town. I remember early on thinking, "Oh this is happy Damdred. That's town." From then I've kinda kept getting those vibes every time he posts. I also like his reasons for thinking OWS might be town.
FF I've kinda ignored ever since Robik townread him. In looking at his filter, it's like wading through shit. The two things that stand out to me are the Kurumi/Chezinu thing and this post:
On March 04 2015 08:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
If koshi was right about there only being 3mls this game, did his modkill bring us one step closer to the edge? (and I'm about to break)

Maybe I've been playing video mafia too much, but I have a hard time thinking that mafia would do something as silly/crazy as the Kurumi/Chez mix up. And the koshi post really made me laugh.

For Tube gimme another hour to two. I need to go back and look at a few things in specific.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 17:38 GMT
#1609
IDK Damdred. I'm actually really torn.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 17:39 GMT
#1611
On March 05 2015 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
..or rather "who knows why"?
I don't need an answer.

I know what you're thinking. Here's my question to you, "Why is that obviously a bad awful read that you shouldn't ever be using this game?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 17:45 GMT
#1616
Rayn I'm going to be honest. I don't care about your stupid reads. That's a bad read and you should know it. You should know exactly why that's a really, really terrible read. Why are you pushing this?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 17:46 GMT
#1618
Oh Kita that reminds me what I needed to go back to check.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 18:38 GMT
#1643
@Kita. Regarding Tube. I had to go back and look at my summary of the Newbie game and his filter. On length it's about what I expect. He's under similar pressure in that game too IIRC. There are a few things that I note that are quite different.

First, in the newbie game while his filter isn't great he has some real gems of insight here and there. Things that really show how he's thinking about the game. Not just the "If everyone's scumreading Shining" post but more like:
On January 11 2015 11:17 Tubesock wrote:
Even if you read Rsoultin's legacy concerning Silverarte it's like she doesn't want to insult her by calling her mafia since they are friends. There isn't a single towny word in Rsoultin's paragraph about Silver.

Like it's a really interesting thought. But I'm not really seeing anything like that this game. That's pretty remarkable to me.

Second, in the newbie game he's reasonably opinionated. Like he makes points on people and interacts a bunch. Like almost all of his posts are to someone. I'm going to try and be specific about this but his posts are to the person in relation to the conversation they are having in the thread at that time. Like there's an intended back and forth. Where as this game it's far more of posting at people. Like he's interested in saying something but not in actually conversing or having that back and forth.

Third, I remember one of the heuristics used in Boardwalk revolved around who made plans and why. In Boardwalk, there were numerous plans based around picking numbers and what should be drafted where, etc. But I specifically remember someone talking about how mafia were more likely to propose a plan and just let it die. As I recall, I think it ended up getting a mafia lynched; I think it was part of why Gonzaw suspected Artanis. Either way, what I find interesting about his Votecount thing is that he doesn't really push it. He both likes and understands my "people cleared to shoot" list. But unlike, Rayn or me that game there was no constant revision in order to generate a better plan. There wasn't really any pushing for finding the best plan. It's more of a "I'm doing something plan but I don't really care about it."

Fourth, This post:
On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 03:51 your mom wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Tube, I'd rather hear your reads. Your idea wasn't terrible, but the longer you hide behind that list, the more townie points you're losing.


Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit.

Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan).

Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him.

Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him.


rayns arguments are that i scumread people off a few posts before looking at the entire game, and keep scumreading them for those posts (which is supposed to make the whole "fabricated")

now point me to the part you find convincing please. rayn called me mafia on the get go so he couldnt have thought that i was mafia cause stubborn, since it was shortly after game start and before i went to bed. he called me mafia after i woke up today for reasons. but the first time he calls me mafia, do you see a reason for it?


I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet.

Geript is doing stuff and interacting a lot. He grilled Epiphany (still even but more politely). He doesn't appear to be afraid to say anything and is pushing an agenda. There's some things he's done that seemed scummy (pushing for chaos with plan rejection and not pushing an alternative, pushing the ninja stuff) but that stuff is either outweighed by or explained by his other actions. It's definitely possible he's scum, but we can't shoot him today. No way.

What I find interesting about this post is that finding reasons to call me mafia but doesn't push them. What's more important is he's both buddied me pretty hard at points and both before and after this calls me obvious town. Like that's really, really weird.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:04 GMT
#1648
On March 05 2015 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I actually came across to that thought that's really disturbing me on the way to the store and back.
I have no fucking idea why i am reading geript town.

I'm not even sure whether to laugh or be mad.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:06 GMT
#1650
On March 05 2015 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robert do you seriously think town!geript doesn't have a clear shot target at 24h mark which he has been pushing at least for 12 hours? Because i am pretty sure that is impossible.

Yah, because that's exactly how it went down Rayn. EXACTLY!!!!!! Like we've played idk a billion times. How in the fuck can you still not even fucking read me?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:06 GMT
#1652
On March 05 2015 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well you don't really think anyone is mafia geript...

Not even true Rayn. Not even close to true.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:11 GMT
#1656
Like literally Rayn, keep on talking. Just keep that fucking mouth running. Because I'm going to fucking shoot someone tonight. And the more you talk the more likely I'm just going just shoot you in the fucking face because you do this every fucking game. EVERY FUCKING GAME!!!!! You get to the point where, "No. Geript can totally be mafia here. I'm even sure of it." Fuck that shit. Fuck that shit right in the ass. I'm not even going to bother talking to you anymore. I don't even know why I fucking bother in the first place. Like seriously, what the fuck?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:18 GMT
#1664
Medic don't save Rayn. I got a Gigi shot and it's going straight to his face hole.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:27 GMT
#1677
ATTENTION WHOEVER GOT A MEDIC ROLE!!! I WAS GIVEN A GUN!!! I WILL BE SHOOTING RAYN!!! SO IF YOU FUCKiNG SAVE HIM I WILL LYNCH YOU OUT OF SPITE!!!!!!!!!!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:30 GMT
#1683
Don't know don't care. I know I got a one shot vigi power and Rayns gonna die. I'm tired of his shit.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 19:42 GMT
#1697
On March 05 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LIKE LOOK HOW THE DUDE IS ACTING NOW AND COME TO MY FACE TELLING ME HE IS TOWN WHEN "he didn't wanna shoot on D1"....

Fucking geript if you are town i need to re-evaluate if i should play with you any more because you go nuts when someone presents an argument against you... The sad part is you are probably also asshole enough to use this as a cover up as mafia.

Me? I go nuts? Really Rayn? Labour anyone and everyone making a case or point on me? Bullshit. Bullshitbullshitbullshitbullshit. I go nuts when people who should know how to read me don't. Eat lead.
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