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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:29 GMT
#2586
Robik,

Can you elaborate a little bit on your decision to stay on Sandroba? Does the spirit message change anything about you thinking Sandroba should have checked LS instead? If he is still mafia, why would he lie about his check?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:32 GMT
#2593
I previously sad that Sicklucker does really crazy irritating plays as town. Carol, he made me rage and tunnel due to his pointless gift talk. I shadowed Imperial and he did some ridiculous fake cop claim. Another as scum he was not crazy. More easy going and got along with people. No crazy plays.

Here same thing. I still don't get why he didn't go after me but he does like the WIFOM.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:33 GMT
#2595
On March 07 2015 07:31 IAmRobik wrote:
oh, and:
4) I think enough people will switch off sandro that it shouldn't matter


Even if no one switched (I did) he still was dying.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:37 GMT
#2599
On March 07 2015 07:34 IAmRobik wrote:
I just had a nightmare of a thought

+ Show Spoiler +
what if I'm wrong on tubesock and have to take several months off


You won't.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:46 GMT
#2613
On March 07 2015 07:43 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 07:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Why do we have to lynch sicklucker i feel bad


You dont have too. Do you honestly think tubes more townie then me? I have like a 20 page filter...


I have 10 and have shown way more thinking about this game than you.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:47 GMT
#2616
On March 07 2015 07:45 sicklucker wrote:
Whoevers town needs to switch to tube now to make the mafia lynch of history

OF HISTORY think about it bros?


Haha, flattering.

You believe that in my 3rd game of mafia ever in any format, I'd be able to make Robik consider quiting for 2 months?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:48 GMT
#2617
On March 07 2015 07:47 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 07:46 Tubesock wrote:
On March 07 2015 07:43 sicklucker wrote:
On March 07 2015 07:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Why do we have to lynch sicklucker i feel bad


You dont have too. Do you honestly think tubes more townie then me? I have like a 20 page filter...


I have 10 and have shown way more thinking about this game than you.


Whatever dude your dying tormorow jerk


I do love you Sicklucker.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:50 GMT
#2620
On March 07 2015 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
Like I said this should have always been a race between the other two. I lead discussion theres no way im mafia here. Sorry guys.

Honestly in restrospect the reason why tube is mafia is because the race built around me and the cop. While no votes landed on tube. Suspicious no? Tube was townie but so was I how come I got all the votes and he got none?


You're delusional.

But to be fair I was way off.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:54 GMT
#2627
On March 07 2015 07:52 IAmRobik wrote:
i still think sandro is fucking mafia nad syllo just sucks dick at this game


This could be true. Post game if Sandro does flip it'll be a good time to rage.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:56 GMT
#2631
I find it hard to believe that Syllo would be 99% right. But then I'd have said the same thing when Palmer found Marv in Metal with like 2 posts. It's possible. I would need way more time to think about it though than 6 minutes.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 22:57 GMT
#2634
On March 07 2015 07:56 IAmRobik wrote:
There's no way SL brings up his 20 page filter as scum. -.- God save me if I'm defending mafia here, but fuck. i reallhy really don't think tube or sl is mafia right now and think that sandro is the highest likelihood for mafia of the cell FUCKFUCKFUCK


Man I hear you. I spent the last 47 hours completely convinced Sandroba is mafia.

But blue type really shakes a read man.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2015 05:25 GMT
#2676
I've thought about some things.

1. If the next day is a duel of some sort I'm dueling Sandroba. There are two things that will stop this. Information that would lead me to think Onegu is mafia. Or Sandroba is already dead.

2. If it's mayor I'm heavily pushing Robik or Kithaman27. I'd push Kurumi but I know he's not electable.

3. Geript and I will no longer shit the thread. I have gained all the information I need from him. He is useless to me now. If I respond to his questions again the post will contain the page number of my filter where I already answered his question. If he decides to care about this game and ask for new information then I'll answer.

4. All my reads are current and can be found in my filter with the exception of:
    Half the Sky - Now suspicious. I didn't realize I was suspicious when I last mentioned her. But, Robik.
    Obiwanshinobi is mafia. He wasn't looking for more information on who to vote. He was worried about how he'd look voting.
    Supulchre - suspicious. Geript shot (I believe the claim now), and Kurumi most likely right (among others).


Those of you counting, I have 9 nontown suspects.

I'll be around for some hours. I have to work tomorrow, so I'll be gone for the start of the new day.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2015 06:14 GMT
#2678
Dear CEO Chezinu,

First, I would like to inform you I have my stapler. Thank you. I would ask if you have had time to review my report. The PA announcement gave me pause today. At first, it made me question my report, but then after our unfortunate loss I realized that maybe the speaker was faulty. Sandroba is more TEAM in my eyes now than before assuming I correctly read your assessment of Onegu. Do you think I understood your wishes?

I also note, that your documentation and my documentation of Robik have differing conclusions. I believe Robik is a buyer for our great corporation, but you seem to have him as a salesman of last record.

Sincerely yours,

Tubesock
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2015 15:38 GMT
#2692
On March 07 2015 20:35 Onegu wrote:
No we lynch tube tomorrow. There is no way we don't. Sandaroba was obv the cop, and I got a green check. Like its so unlikely that if I was scum and scum got a framer/GF ability and targeted scum me. Come on mocsta think, I am town. Also don't late tube duel sandaroba. If we get duel I duel tube tomorrow


This is why I said the thread goes toxic. Not that you are creating toxicity, but tryhard towns see you do not read nor care about the thread and rage but know you're town.

You and I duel, and town loses. Your argument is SOLELY on the premise that Syllogism is 100% right on the Sandroba read.

There are only really 3 things that I will bet the game on. 1 I'm town, duh; 2 Sandroba is mafia, and 3 you are town. I could be wrong on Geript, and Kurumi. I wish Kurumi was right about you being ninja. But you are far too lazy to be ninja, you are scapegoat. You are an excuse.

Come on Onegu think. I am town. You are town.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2015 15:45 GMT
#2697
Kurumi was right. Mocsta is on the edge.

Slam is town.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2015 16:16 GMT
#2702
On March 08 2015 00:50 Mocsta wrote:
yeah tubesock.. because all the players in this game are contributing...

like get over yourself you dumb fuck.

i might be wrong, but im still here trying, unlike hjalf the game.

mafia havent lost anyone, and have no reason to contribute like 90% of this town.

fuck u


I don't think I've raged at you at all this game. I DO think you are contributing. I haven't inferred anything about you other than you are mafia. I've mentioned you twice. Neither time was about your productivity.

So, call me stupid some more.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2015 18:31 GMT
#2709
Thoughts before I leave for work. Let's examine some scenarios that have been pushed.

1. Geript's defense of Sandroba
    Syllogism MUST be town spirit. (Turns out true)
    Syllogism MUST find Sandroba town. (Turns out true)
    Syllogism MUST think Sandroba best for PR. (Apparently True)
    Sandroba MUST be town.

That's a lot of things that need to happen.

My idea. (Sandroba is mafia)
    Sandroba MUST be mafia. (wait and see)
    Sandroba MUST want to avoid try harding. (ample evidence)
    Syllogism CAN be either Spirit.
    Syllogism CAN Scum Sandroba.
    Syllogism CAN give PR to ANYONE.
    Sandroba CAN fake/real check ANYONE.

Basically, to argue successfully with me on my point is prove that Sandroba would not mind try harding and do some other play. OR show how his Day 1 is town and something that mafia can't fake.

My idea is not stupid. Given an outcome X or Y, would be be more likely to be true? X which needs 4 things to fall into place (we didn't know about them during this debate), or Y which needs 2?

As mafia, why would I work so hard to find out a scenario that is so relatively simple, versus a scheme that with out much indepth analysis seems plausible but requires 4 at the time unverifiable things to fall in to place? Mafia knew who was the scum in the cell. Why would any town do nothing but fight this idea? Kithaman27 and IamRobik both thought my Theory was bad. See how they reacted? They continued to ask questions, they even asked questions from topics I BROUGHT UP. They investigated. Others did nothing but bring up why my scenario was so unlikely and stupid.

Think about these things in the context that Onegu was Framed or Godfathered. How many unverifiable things need to fall into place for this to happen? How many things need to be true for Onegu to be an excuse for night kill survival. ONE.

Onegu is TOWN.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2015 21:04 GMT
#2733
How balanced would a game be where 2 players can immediately kill four town or four mafia and basically end the game Day 1. AND have a player who can't interact able to also give vigi shots kill derp further.

This is all derperference.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i1-ySuWmYcg

Gah. Someone fix that video for me.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 08 2015 06:26 GMT
#2822
My mayor preferences have not changed.

Kithaman27, I really like your list. I would like you to consider Half the Sky also. She claims that the "mechanics" of what happened is what pushed her off Sicklucker. She was criticizing me for not thinking about them and feigning helping me by talking about it, and asking me to clarify my thought process. She did the exact same thing as mafia in our newbie game only she was asking Jarjarbinks about his algorithm.

Someone who was thinking so much about the mechanics probably should have realized that having 4 KP that could hit whenever would be balanced enough that there can't be vigi's too. We are in a bad spot because of the shurikens. Imagine if we had vigi shots too? That's crazy.

Note her vote time stamp and the Breaking News post. She turned the vote from Sandroba favored at 9-7 to 8 - 8 and then unfortunately Obi hammered Sick and that's the end of it. She was the key.

On March 07 2015 06:38 Half the Sky wrote:
##unvote
##vote sicklucker


On March 07 2015 07:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BREAKING NEWS
A Message from the Spirit of Benevolence

Show nested quote +
I gave Sandro a check.No way he's mafia.Tone & reasoning 99% town sandro.Claimed check only makes sense for town.No sane mafia motivation.SL likely mafia.Msgs lmtd & this 1 wstfl, but ncssry -syllo


I like Robik for mayor.

He knows that town needs some dead mafia or he loses. He's motivated to find mafia. We give him an extra KP, he's going to use it to kill the ninja or mafia. He has a shuriken to hit again. He's on town side, because he knows that the other ninja has no shots. The other ninja can't lynch him, and as far as I'm concerned he's helped town so much by claiming ninja and I for one will push for him to win his condition.

Geript doesn't lie as mafia and I believe him. He's going to shoot who he thinks is ninja. Is it difficult to think he believes Robik's claim?

What's the downside to Robik being mayor?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 08 2015 06:40 GMT
#2824
On March 08 2015 15:33 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2015 15:26 Tubesock wrote:
My mayor preferences have not changed.

Kithaman27, I really like your list. I would like you to consider Half the Sky also. She claims that the "mechanics" of what happened is what pushed her off Sicklucker. She was criticizing me for not thinking about them and feigning helping me by talking about it, and asking me to clarify my thought process. She did the exact same thing as mafia in our newbie game only she was asking Jarjarbinks about his algorithm.

Someone who was thinking so much about the mechanics probably should have realized that having 4 KP that could hit whenever would be balanced enough that there can't be vigi's too. We are in a bad spot because of the shurikens. Imagine if we had vigi shots too? That's crazy.

Note her vote time stamp and the Breaking News post. She turned the vote from Sandroba favored at 9-7 to 8 - 8 and then unfortunately Obi hammered Sick and that's the end of it. She was the key.

On March 07 2015 06:38 Half the Sky wrote:
##unvote
##vote sicklucker


On March 07 2015 07:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BREAKING NEWS
A Message from the Spirit of Benevolence

I gave Sandro a check.No way he's mafia.Tone & reasoning 99% town sandro.Claimed check only makes sense for town.No sane mafia motivation.SL likely mafia.Msgs lmtd & this 1 wstfl, but ncssry -syllo


I like Robik for mayor.

He knows that town needs some dead mafia or he loses. He's motivated to find mafia. We give him an extra KP, he's going to use it to kill the ninja or mafia. He has a shuriken to hit again. He's on town side, because he knows that the other ninja has no shots. The other ninja can't lynch him, and as far as I'm concerned he's helped town so much by claiming ninja and I for one will push for him to win his condition.

Geript doesn't lie as mafia and I believe him. He's going to shoot who he thinks is ninja. Is it difficult to think he believes Robik's claim?

What's the downside to Robik being mayor?



We need town as mayor, what if robik believs Geript and decides he has to play along to win as Geript comes in and say you have to choose me and your top 2 scum reads if you do that we will shoot the opposite ninja and let you win.

Basicly I'm almost confirmed town, you need to vote for me if town is to have a chance in this game. If we accidentally choose mafia its game over or at least almost game over.

Pick me for mayor.

LS you need to vote me now, same with bats and the rest of you fools.


I would as I believe you are town. I also believe Geript is mafia. I also know I am town. So, I elect you, you kill Geript, then by your agenda you lynch me. Then town loses.
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