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I think the most we are going to get from here is this last portion she posted lately. Definitely a lot of effort for Scumreading Tere, which is interesting because the general consensus at the time was slowly towning Tere. | ||
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Summary part I won't go through because it doesn't require much thought to summarize a person's filter. MOst of us have read and are reading Tere's filter anyways. "Inbetween this long awaited series of analysis and during it, reads on me are generally pleasant and wonderful. She's also prolific with her calls on "Don't judge me for what my actions are". Now, if we aren't judging based on actions and votes, what do we judge on?" I found this kind of weak lol I'm interpreting this to be a comment on Tere saying "don't claim based off this" quotes. If the comment was on her vote, the play was questionable and talked about on here already. I don't think Tere was trying to say to not look at her votes. "Now, her filter was rather prolific today which is great! Except...all of a sudden, there is a switch in tone on those votes. We go from hunting down other targets, to hunting down me based on Trfel's analysis. Rather than going with your initial votes and feels, you switched and trailed on with Trfel (which I was accused of doing)" I think this was original (Shining might have mentioned this point earlier, please correct me if I'm wrong lol). I don't think Tere did just focus on Silver based on Trfel's analysis though. Her primary scum read was Shining and she stuck with it. Her case on silver wasn't the best, so I could see her taking Trfel's point on Silver and looking at her more. It's what town should do in that situation. | ||
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On February 19 2015 15:24 Trfel wrote: In case some silly person decides to scumread The Shining for it, there is no possible way he would get away with that as mafia. Just an honest mistake. About the times changing, he is 100% right, that tricked me for a moment too. Your cool it happens. If you were right that would have been an important point lol | ||
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On February 19 2015 15:38 The Shining wrote: As am I. I hate to say it but diving/skimming everyone for their stances on Tere kind of took it out of me. Also I forgot Zlefin. Zlefin - Null on Tere, healthy suspicion but seems to be more set on pushing Ely or Silver. Speaking of Silver...you got me interested in the exercise I just did with Tere. As far as I see, Trfel is leaning scum or at least willing to lynch Silver. Tere dropped her to being scum with me. Ely and Zlef both see Silver as scummish, as per the lists they posted. JJB is calling her forgettable up until now, but points out that she did take the effort to scumread Tere, although he is incorrect in saying Tere's being accepted as a townread. Did you miss the part where we got at eachother? lol. Also, definitive answer for Silver, please. You leaning scum or town? I'm not done with the filter, sorry. Posting thoughts in segments lol I did see that. Are you still that suspicious of her? It seems like you are less. Trf seems less. | ||
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This is a fantastic tool, but it's an imperfect science and one we all pointed out to several of the others who joined us (Zlefin, etc). You, yourself have been very pleasant and forward, but very much pushing for others thoughts and ideas while holding back your own. I don't feel this is reaching, since this isn't the first time this has happened this game." This feels like Silver is searching for answers. Other town are doing this (Rso and Trf) and I think the reasoning seems relatively clear. Their strategy is working, it got Shining to say more and Silver to say more on their reads without the help of others. | ||
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Ya Tere, sorry about that lol | ||
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My final verdict of her case: It's good she's posting, but I can't tell if it is scumhunting or built as a defense to the people who are calling her out. I thought her case was relatively weak, did it really help town? Granted, this is her second game and she doesn't have a lot of time, but those are excuses. The rest of her filter seems like its just defending herself and non content posts. She did provide us that content post, so if you are scumreading her I would advise you to look at that over most of the rest of her filter. I had Tere at #2 in my lynch list before, but I'm putting Silver as more lynchable than Tere. I need to go through Elyas's filter to see if I think she is my top lynch target. Elyas hasn't left much of an impression on me today, but I have been less active today than yesterday and the day before lol | ||
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On February 19 2015 16:07 The Shining wrote: JJB, I'm slightly less suspicious of her in the sense that, post interaction, I realized I'd get nowhere pushing her. I still have my gut feeling and I've made it abundantly clear why she could possibly be scum, but I'm also weary of putting us into lylo with another mislynch and, to be fair, there are some town points and good posts in her filter to counteract my thoughts. In other words, I'm concentrating my efforts on finding the other scum. That will, imo, either give her away as the 2nd scum or exonerate her, depending on who flips. Once she interacts with me tomorrow, and of course post lynch flip, I'll have a more definitive answer. And I agree with the fact that holding back reads or thoughts sometimes forces others to put original thoughts into the thread. It is how we interpret those original thoughts that makes the strategy useful. And please, once you're done with Silver, a read either way would be helpful. Trfel WIFOM? It's a newbie game, we could have first time scummers or scum team could be the most experienced in the game. Do you really think it would be such a seamless bus that we wouldn't be able to pick up on who was least committed to the Silver scumread? You're either putting a lot of faith into the scum team or little to no faith in your/our scumhunting abilities as town. Also, am I wrong in thinking that with this much time left in the day, a counter wagon would be at least attempted before scum buses a partner in a game this small? Your right. She is one of the most inactive, so it will be easy for us to mislynch her if she is town lol solid point on that flips later could determine if she is actually scum. Most people seem to be following the same train of thought on here, which might make this harder later when we do see more flips. | ||
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I should read. I have an hour and a half right? | ||
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Trfel late defense is what i'd expect from scum Trfel with a chance to survive. I need to filter dive Trfel. I still have an hour right? | ||
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Shining you are really townreading Trf? Because of filter length? | ||
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On February 20 2015 07:53 Trfel wrote: What would you expect from Trfel who has been carrying town on his back for one and a half days, and now is getting lynched and there are townies who don't even listen to him? Here's a hint, it would look a whole lot like my posting for the last couple of hours. lol if your town you have every right to rant much harder than you already have. If you are scum though, you have played a very good scum game. Props on that one lol | ||
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On February 20 2015 07:54 zlefin wrote: you have about an hour jarjar; though I have to recommend a Silver vote over Trfel. According to Tere's theory, Trfel and Silver are the two scum. So if she's right, silver is scum. If she's wrong, there's viewpoints from other people that still point to Silver being scum. So Silver is more likely to be scum than Trfel, so better to vote Silver. You have a point here, but most people's cases on silver are because of the lurking which screams mislynch. Give me time. I might end up doubting my vote and killing the lurker anyways lol | ||
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Your EOD D1 play though. The more I look at your filter the more Tere's case stands out. | ||
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