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jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 18:46 GMT
#392
Elyas, I see your posting stopped. It appeared like you voted Hier to pressure him, but might have some stronger reads.

Care to share those when you get the chance?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 18:54 GMT
#394
On February 17 2015 00:31 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 00:26 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 20:43 zlefin wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:53 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:31 Trfel wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:29 jarjarbinks wrote:
Rsoultin: Do you actually believe Hier is scum or do you just disapprove of his idea? Town can be wrong right?

Maybe next game you can be mother hen xD lol

Town can never be wrong. Your statement is wrong, so you are scum.


lolz dang it you caught me! lol

While I recognize it was done in jest, I still dislike this statement, it feels scummy to say such a thing, even as a joke.


I disagree with this, zle, based solely on the fact that if you read Truffle's post to JJB it was a joke in response to a joke. Unless you believe that Truffle actually meant his "town can never be wrong so you're scum" comment


I did read the earlier post, and recognize it's likely to be a joke in response to a joke, I still don't like it though. And it's not like I have piles of reads to work with, so I'll take what I can get.


So is this like your strongest read of the game? Deserving of a -2 score?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 18:56 GMT
#395
On February 17 2015 03:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 03:43 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 17 2015 03:33 Tere wrote:
On February 15 2015 15:26 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 15 2015 15:20 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 15:17 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 15 2015 15:14 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 15:10 jarjarbinks wrote:
Rsoultin: Do you think you could actually RNG lynch someone? I don't think you could lol


Speak of the devil ^^ Did you have a hot date tonight I don't know about, bro?

Probably not -amused-

I'm sure there's a how-to online somewhere, though >> I could just google it xP


Nope, totally 5th wheeled a weird after church double date thing tho. I should prob get one of those date things.

LOL just make sure you don't actually read all of the rules first


Or my role PM? xP

Dude, if only you'd posted that in-thread; it could totally make the wtf awards ^^

So, opinions on any of the players/goings-on thus far?


Trf's opening: slightly less crazy than last game I played with him in. No random vote the guy who might be inactive play. Wants to promote discussion. I could go either way cuz he "tried" to do that as scum.

Shining- not much reaction there. What i'd typically expect I guess?

You- I expect you to do what you do every game. You did it...lol

Everyone else: I'm guessing they are gone for valentine's. I'd get worried if people aren't chiming in when I wake up tomorrow.


While you are here, would you explain why you posted the bolded bit to rsoulin?
I am lacking in the meta here.

Thanks



Sure. Rsoultin's basic strategy every game is to pry at little things in the beginning which accomplishes two things.

1: She appears town to everyone (almost always is accepted as town regardless of alignment)
2: Starts discussion.
3: She is probably the best player in this game I've seen do this, so it appeals to her strengths.

The discussion part helps town, plus she might get someone to slip. I generally don't read her one way or another because of it.


This is pretty fair, actually. Even if you haven't played with me as both alignments, you brat xP (He's actually quite paranoid of me ^^ It's cute. If ever he's not sure who is scum, he'll default to me )


HEY I've held my tongue this game lol
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 19:10 GMT
#399
I'm adding to the counterwagon for zlefin. There definitely needs to be one, and I see zlefin as pretty scummy so far.

1. Doesn't really explain scumreads, besides my joke.
2. Is kind of scumhunting, but not really.
3. Most reads are pure tonal. Which is fine, but I can't back that.

zlefin if you answer my above question and I like it, I am willing to change my vote.

Hier, please post you still have a chance of not dying today. People switch votes all the time in this game. Answering questions helps people understand your thinking and if your town that is good for you
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 19:12 GMT
#400
If you are pressuring Hier to talk, you might be giving him the wrong incentives. Right now it looks like a lost cause. If you truly believe he is bad, keep your vote by all means. If it is only for pressure, too many of you are doing it lol
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 19:20 GMT
#403
I haven't talked about Tere and Silver much, so i'll share my thoughts

Tere: You seem like a nice version of my sister lol It looks like you make tonal reads but have some backing to them which is nice. I think what you said about mime has some truth to it. I agree with some of Trf's suspicions of you because some of it reminds me of my sister so I believe you have the ability to fool me. But as of right now count me fooled, I'm giving you a townlean right now.

Silver: I don't know what to think about you so far. I think your excuses are definitely justified, but it does hurt my ability to read you. Some people don't like wall posts, but you will need to get all of your thoughts out when you are here. Voting Hier is justifiable right now, but I don't see that as scumhunting. You have me worried.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 19:22 GMT
#405
On February 17 2015 04:19 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 03:54 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 17 2015 00:31 zlefin wrote:
On February 17 2015 00:26 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2015 20:43 zlefin wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:53 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:31 Trfel wrote:
On February 16 2015 09:29 jarjarbinks wrote:
Rsoultin: Do you actually believe Hier is scum or do you just disapprove of his idea? Town can be wrong right?

Maybe next game you can be mother hen xD lol

Town can never be wrong. Your statement is wrong, so you are scum.


lolz dang it you caught me! lol

While I recognize it was done in jest, I still dislike this statement, it feels scummy to say such a thing, even as a joke.


I disagree with this, zle, based solely on the fact that if you read Truffle's post to JJB it was a joke in response to a joke. Unless you believe that Truffle actually meant his "town can never be wrong so you're scum" comment


I did read the earlier post, and recognize it's likely to be a joke in response to a joke, I still don't like it though. And it's not like I have piles of reads to work with, so I'll take what I can get.


So is this like your strongest read of the game? Deserving of a -2 score?

each read I only score as a single point, unless it's really strong, this was a 1 point scum read; the other -1 came from a general tonal impression over the first RL day or so.


Got it. Can you explain your Trf flip reasoning from before?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 19:27 GMT
#409
On February 17 2015 00:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 00:28 Trfel wrote:
On February 17 2015 00:24 rsoultin wrote:
Truffle, time to test that mindmeld...

what did you think I was doing with the push on Hier?

Pretty sure you were creating pressure from very little to get the thread going. I didn't say that earlier because saying so would defeat the purpose, as people could then refuse to respond.

Which is precisely the reason why Hier's case on you (rsoultin) falls apart. While the points he brought up are good points, this is the simple explanation from a town perspective.


Got it in one, lol. Okay, good, cause that's where our mindmeld starts to diverge :/

Even when I stepped back and gave him plenty of room to breathe, cause yeah, you were right that I can be intimidating and that defeats the purpose, he still was highly defensive and closed off. This makes me uncomfortable.

Another thing that makes me uncomfortable is your lack of direction so far this game, unless after sleeping you're still scumreading Shining? (I have to look at that case closer, and will do that while deciding whether or not to keep pushing Hier)


Trf has talked a lot, which I generally perceive as town. When I read this earlier, I agreed with it. When you voted Hier later while saying you weren't really into it, but wouldn't find a counter wagon, it reminded me of this quote again.

Do you have better candidates as of now? Who are you willing to change your vote for? Who is your top scumread?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 19:31 GMT
#411
On February 17 2015 03:11 zlefin wrote:
rso -> I need to go back over the thread to answer that more thoroughly, which I plan to do at some point, not necessarily now though.
It's an impression I've formed that he's at the nexus of several conversations, and that if I knew he was town, I could point to 2-3 people as the likeliest scum in response, and if I knew he was scum, I could point to 1-2 people as the likeliest other scum.
To put another way, I the feeling I get is that if I knew his alignment, it would really strongly narrow down my my suspects, whereas for some other people, a lynch wouldn't help me much.

But again, I really need to go back over everything to make sure my feel has some validity.


If you could explain the people you would point to that was where I was going. I want to see if you caught something I didn't and see how your reading people.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 19:31 GMT
#412
On February 17 2015 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 04:27 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 17 2015 00:34 rsoultin wrote:
On February 17 2015 00:28 Trfel wrote:
On February 17 2015 00:24 rsoultin wrote:
Truffle, time to test that mindmeld...

what did you think I was doing with the push on Hier?

Pretty sure you were creating pressure from very little to get the thread going. I didn't say that earlier because saying so would defeat the purpose, as people could then refuse to respond.

Which is precisely the reason why Hier's case on you (rsoultin) falls apart. While the points he brought up are good points, this is the simple explanation from a town perspective.


Got it in one, lol. Okay, good, cause that's where our mindmeld starts to diverge :/

Even when I stepped back and gave him plenty of room to breathe, cause yeah, you were right that I can be intimidating and that defeats the purpose, he still was highly defensive and closed off. This makes me uncomfortable.

Another thing that makes me uncomfortable is your lack of direction so far this game, unless after sleeping you're still scumreading Shining? (I have to look at that case closer, and will do that while deciding whether or not to keep pushing Hier)


Trf has talked a lot, which I generally perceive as town. When I read this earlier, I agreed with it. When you voted Hier later while saying you weren't really into it, but wouldn't find a counter wagon, it reminded me of this quote again.

Do you have better candidates as of now? Who are you willing to change your vote for? Who is your top scumread?


Psst, is that directed at me or Trfel, JJB?


lolz Trf xD
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 21:27 GMT
#485
Hier: Who do you think is more likely to turn up scum, Rso or Tere? Is there someone else you think is more likely?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 21:31 GMT
#486
Elyas your reads on this morning/afternoon's stuff would be appreciated before EOD. Who is your top scumread besides Hier?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 21:35 GMT
#487
On February 17 2015 05:59 Tere wrote:
It's not my neck on the chopping block.

I guess Hier doesn't want to defend himself


It doesn't hurt to answer his stuff first does it?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 22:25 GMT
#507
Thanks Tere for responding. If you not responding was keeping him from responding, I really wanted you to respond. I don't think your response really helped me figure out your alignment but I do agree that you are trying to read new people.

I think a wagon could be made for zlefin, although now I am the only vote on it. It seems like multiple people suspect him, but Hier more.

I am willing to change my vote to make it mean something, I will keep it on Zle for now

Shinings reads right now could be helpful. He is around it seems.

Elyas, thanks for the response, if you have insight on other players that could be helpful, please share!
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 22:28 GMT
#509
Lol shining you posted while I was. That ninja retal or something

Who would you push for right now?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 22:29 GMT
#510
...lol it happened again. u got time lol
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 22:38 GMT
#512
Hier: I liked the first part of your post. Made some points. Not the strongest case, but you could be right. The bottom part of your post about abiding to the rules confused me. I just wanted to confirm that you aren't using the bridges method anymore, at least until you convince us to use it as well?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 22:42 GMT
#514
On February 17 2015 07:37 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 07:24 rsoultin wrote:
Who do you really want to vote for, Zle? If you were a vigilante, had a day shot, and could take someone out without anyone else's input, who would it be and why?

I don't have anyone I really want to vote for, or I'd vote for them. All I have are a few weak reads on some people, the table I keep is like this currently:

Trfel 0/2
Shining
rsoultin 1/1
elyas
jarjar -2/2
tere
hier 0/2
silver -1/1


which given that points are minor reads (not necessarily of the same strength, any time I get a feel one way or another due to a post, or a general impression, I put a point in on someone) means I don't have any good target. If I were vigilante, I'd save my shot for better reads later. If I had to choose, I'd probably choose jarjar, since he's the guy I have two negatives on.


It looks like your table change for Trf and Silver since last time you posted it. What did they say/do that made you give them a point?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 23:44 GMT
#543
On February 17 2015 08:30 rsoultin wrote:
JJB, what has you so sure that Hier is town?


It isn't that I 100% believe he's town. It's that he has 6 votes on him. He IS suspicious, I give you that. I wanted to vote him if he actually meant that he's still somehow sticking to his bridges plan when no one else is doing it lol

Maybe it was that you started the wagon on him but it just seems like EVERYONE is against him, and that makes me wonder. Parts of his posts make me think he is town, and is just angry that everyone is against him.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
February 16 2015 23:45 GMT
#544
On February 17 2015 08:39 The Shining wrote:
Sry guys, on mobile, I had to go to my moms and its really hard to read on my phone. =/ Went and voted for Hier in voting thread, sheeping my town read honestly.


Unfortunate. Looking forward to your reads later on.
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